T-I-G LVI: Panic at the Prancing Pony

[Durelin]

Durelin spent 47 hours brooding in her dark corner, pondering her now dual purpose. There was double the pondering to be done, and time was growing short.

[Durelin]

So, the uncertainty of my gender aside...

Brinniel still bothers me. Nerwen and Fea bother me - Nerwen for her vote, Fea for her reaction to Rikae's seer comment. Nogrod bothers me too, but he also amuses me right now, and I do not think he's a wraith. Really all the late Gollum-voters bother me right now. It really grates on my nerves when the lynchee is chosen by people compromising on an easy target - someone who does not play how they wish people to play.

At any rate, back to brooding for a bit.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

First of all. . . You guys talk to much and I should like to strike you all down!

Originally Posted by Brinniel

The List:

Suspicious
Sally
Fea
Greenie

Watching
Legate
Nerwen
Aganzir

No Clue
Lari
Mira
Rikae
Beregond
Mac
Menel

Innocent
Lommy
Nogrod
Durelin

My ego is hurt!
Why did I not make "The List"?

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Of course. Voting one of the two (or the one) who was ahead of Gollum and not a wraith.

But what if both where wraiths?

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Ok, it was maybe not nice of me to say that. It's true, however, that people have built up reputations in all the games they've played, and that people often shy away from lynching someone with a higher reputation, if only by the number of games played, when they have no real reason to. All of us three have played more games than Gollum and had more successes (more defeats, too, but those are usually forgotten quickly).

To be honest (I have to try everything once) I cannot remember you or Lommy being succesfull in wraithwolf, but I do have a selective memory.

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

I'd suggest we keep any speculation regarding the Innkeeper/Seer to ourselves. Discussing Seerish comments openly just draws the wraiths towrd the true Seer, which isn't good. True, it may help to protect said person, but I personally think it wise to conceal the Seer's identity from xyr enemies as long as possible.

What!?

Originally Posted by Rikae

I was joking, but I won't say I wasn't well aware somebody might make something of it, and I thought what they made of it might be useful.
Mac, I've tested you three times now, and you've earned my trust. If you're a baddie, kudos.

He earned your trust because he passed some more or less imaginary tests? Come on. . . fair enough if he goes to the bottom of you list of suspects, but to trust him.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Why is it that I feel completely lost? I'm not smart enough to get any sense out of all this suttf. I've lost the track of this discussion completely. Shall we talk about... hmmm... carrots?

I am kind of like Beregond, I like potatos better

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Brinn started by complaining about IC posting. I find it understandable - only a few people had made lots of IC posts and there was nothing of substance yet. It's okay if everyone makes a few of them, but three people filling a page with them merits some complaint.

She might have overreacted a bit to being suspected because of her first post, but I find her reaction rather innocentish. And Rune was certainly unnecessarily evil to her.

Her opinion on Frodo is contrary to that of a loud majority but I can understand her. Yeah, of course it would be easiest for us if Frodo just came out and said Hi, here I am! but it doesn't seem fair to ask xem to do it. But it would also make it more boring. At least I would much rather figure xem out based on xyr posts than see xem reveal. It's more entertaining.
I can see why some people think she's giving hints to Frodo, but I think too much along the same lines with her to agree with them. Yeah of course it's possible, but it's also possible Brinn is just being fair.
Okay she did talk about Frodo quite a lot though.

Out of Mac, Lommy and Gollum she found Gollum the most suspicious. It's hard to say anything yet, given that Lommy's & Mac's roles are still unknown. I wasn't very suspicious of Golly but didn't like his lack of substance that much either, so I can well understand why some people wanted to lynch him.

She thought Shasta was killed because of leaving no trails. While this is possible, I find it likely that the wolves also thought he was either the seer of Frodo.

She made a list of people in #277. I mostly agree with it, except that I'm not worried about Greenie. Her posts are usually well-thought out, but I don't think she was suspiciously careful.

Brinn didn't find Rikae's seer comment serious, but found everyone's reactions to it odd. What exactly do you mean by that, Brinn? How were they odd?

She said she couldn't see what benefit could come from Fea pretending Rikae was serious. I can. If Fea had a reason to assume Rikae was joking, it would have been sensible to help set her up as a wolf kill. Of course there was a risk of the real seer revealing, though, which I think is why it wasn't pursued further.
And of course Rikae can be the real seer now and she's just trying to get the baddies off track. They can never know, unless she is one of them.


Or help by misguiding the wolves to assume she isn't the seer? Anything's possible.

I think Brinn looks rather innocent in general. Her points are mostly sensible, and while I agree that she was rather tense on day 1, it seems to be more due to RL stuff. She's been much more relaxed later.

WRAITH SEEKING FRIEND TO MANIPULATE

It could be that Aganzir and Brinn agree on everything, but it could also be that Aganzir is trying to win an innocent over to her side.

This post might be enough for me to vote Aganzir

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

I've been checking out Aganzir lately

This is a Tolkien site, not a dating site!

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But I'd just like to remind you that there are a host of people no one has had nothing to say or have just benevolently put them aside. Many of you have talked about Rikae, Mac, Aganzir, Lommy, Greenie, Brinn, Menel, Nerwen, Dury and me...

But who has glanced at Sally, Lari, Beregond, Fea, Mirandir, Legate, Rune?

I'll bet you there is at least one (and possibly two) ringwraith(s) in there in the latter company as well.
In a way I'd be more than happy to vote someone from the latter list. Just to protest the fact that people who talk more seem to top the lynching list everyday in any game of werewolf...

My god(s) what a non-statement!
I too could pick out half of the people playing this game, say that and have a good chance of being right.
It is fair enought that you want people to focus on everybody, but the part about how many wraiths to find in that group is just silly.

Originally Posted by Mirandir

Rune


What does "our side" mean? Is this giving away that he is innocent? Or is it a ploy to make people think he is innocent when he's really a wraith? Someone to keep an eye on, for sure.

I put it there for you to think about

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I too could pick out half of the people playing this game, say that and have a good chance of being right.

Anyone of us could. You're right about that. But that was not the point - and you know it well enough. It was a question of why people discuss certain people and "forget" some others... It's basic marxist theory as you know: people are driven to concentrate on certain things because so many others talk about them (like Britney Spears or Paris Hilton) and they think that's important while the people running the real things like those in the head of the investment-banks get passed without a notice...

Originally Posted by Fea

It's occurred to me that I want to sacrifice a fellow wolf every time I play an evil role. But there never seems to be any support from my colleagues...

++Durelin

Support my vote if you want.

I already said I was a bit reluctant to vote for Dury even if I have concerns about her but this might do it... Or are there people enough to lynch Fea?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Or are there people enough lynch Fea?

Revenge, darling, for last game?

I thought you were going to bed.

[Durelin]

Brinniel's, Nerwen's, A Little Green's, Sally's, and Fea's votes bother me the most.

Brinniel's because she was sealing Gollum's fate, and wasn't Mac or Rikae who jointly wished to save Mac which is...okay for now...

Nerwen and Greenie's cause they started the ball rolling on Gollum as the typical day 1 lynch for the heck of it.

Sally's put Mac up there, seemingly out of sexism.

Fea's put Brinn up there, and she was looking like another easy target because of her mood.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Fea's put Brinn up there, and she was looking like another easy target because of her mood.

You're talking yesterday, obviously, since tonight my goal was actually to get you killed...

[Beregond]

Ahhhhhh, so many posts! And I'm getting tired.

In the order I happen to type them:


Mac: can't decide. Afraid to make a mistake on someone who could be very helpful. Like I said before, has answered accusations well, but I do not want to underestimate his cunning. If we were in decent places I'd believe him when he says he's not a baddie, but we're not in decent places. Don't actually want to vote for him, but I'm still more suspicious of him than of any of the others.

Nog: got attention for overreaction to random votes. And now again for comments about Durelin. But in all his posts I haven't seen something that makes him seem particularly like a wraith. Again, watching, but not wanting to act.

Rikae: have no idea what to think about her. Have some ideas as to who she might be, but in reality it could be anyone. Thinking she's innocent; certainly not taking a chance by voting.

Brinn: the only thing about her is I didn't understand why she was so surprised when Fea (and myself) commented about Rikae. Besides this incident, I'm not sure where Brinn stands. I'm going to be watching her, but she's safe for now because I don't have much to go on.

Fea: has been generally thinking the same as me, from what I can tell, so I have no reason to vote her off. People say "tricksy" but that's all so far.

Mirandir: don't know what to think of you either! Haven't garnered an opinion from reading your posts, but I will say you're not looking out of place in what is also your first game. (referring to you directly because you mentioned me in your list).

Menel: not posted much. Seems suspicious of Mac like I am, but I'm likewise suspicious of Menel, maybe from said lack of posting, though doubtless he has a good reason.

Durelin: I took the ranger comment on day one as nothing but IC. It could be a real hint, I guess, but even so I don't see the good in discussing it, because I don't think anyone but the wraiths want to know about Strider (at least, I don't know why we would, since no one can protect him?).

Rune: has seemed innocent.

Greenie: I didn't find her suspicious like others did. Paying more attention to her, but not from what I've seen myself.

Agan: same as Greenie. Posted a lot, didn't say anything particularly out of place.

Thinlomien: seems innocent enough.

Lari: not enough to go on either.

Nerwen: same.

Legate: still nothing. Could well be a very cunning wraith in hiding, but nothing to indicate such.

Sally: didn't post enough today.


Responding to Fea: I don't see "taking one for the team" as bad, or unlikely, but it might be ill-advised in most situations.

I'm finding it amusing that since the mass-nicknaming of day one, I've gone back to being called Beregond. I don't have a problem with many nicknames, really.

I've probably crossed with a few people as well. The action is furious.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Rune

My ego is hurt!
Why did I not make "The List"?

I forgot someone? I think I'm starting to make a habit out of forgetting people.

You would've been in the "No Clue" section.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

like Britney Spears or Paris Hilton

I find it scary to see those names in a WW thread.

[Mirandir]

I love it when we decide to randomly lynch Fea! *throws a party*


Juuuuuust kidding!

Crap, 8 minutes to deadline. Better figure out who I'm voting for. *scampers off*

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I feel like lynching Aganzir or Durelin

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Mirandir

I love it when we decide to randomly lynch Fea! *throws a party*

WE might do it for a reason as well...

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Lari

So where did this "lynch Fea" thing come into play? Not that I'm defending her, it just seems to be, well, really spontanious and not right.

I can't speak for others, but it shouldn't be spontaneous from me. I've been suspecting her since the beginning of the Day, and each post makes me feel worse about her. If I do vote for her, it really shouldn't come as a surprise.