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Old 01-26-2009, 12:52 PM   #1
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Mac: Two options I see: Fea is innocent and set up by the wolves/wraiths to be lynched by us. Possiblity. Second option she is guilty, decided that to throw suspicion away from other wolves/wraiths she should sacrifice herself and be lynched.

Which is more probable with Fea? I still have very little to go on with the posts, I still need to re-read things through, but is it always so bad to suspect Fea of anything?

Will my admitting that my vote was on shaky grounds help? Because it was soley silly suspicions that were nothing more than how I would have tried to cast roles/she kept posting IC while the rest of us had stopped. Does that help now?

Now here's a question I have, and not sure if anyone has the answer(or if Kitanna could answer it) but here it is:

Let's say this happened last night: the wolves decided to kill Fea to try to frame more innocents/they wanted to. The Ranger was protecting her that Night, so she couldn't be killed. Did the wolves/wraiths then get another kill? Could they have chosen Nog as a way to still get Fea? Especially if Nog would have been implicated in her death. Because he would certainly been the best canidate for lynching if the deaths were reversed.
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:56 PM   #2
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Let's say this happened last night: the wolves decided to kill Fea to try to frame more innocents/they wanted to. The Ranger was protecting her that Night, so she couldn't be killed. Did the wolves/wraiths then get another kill? Could they have chosen Nog as a way to still get Fea? Especially if Nog would have been implicated in her death. Because he would certainly been the best canidate for lynching if the deaths were reversed.
Unless Kit changed the way it usually works, what happens if the wraiths pick the Ranger-protectee is that there is no death. No do-over.

So Nog died because the wraiths wanted him, the end.

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Old 01-26-2009, 01:01 PM   #3
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Now here's a question I have, and not sure if anyone has the answer(or if Kitanna could answer it) but here it is:

Let's say this happened last night: the wolves decided to kill Fea to try to frame more innocents/they wanted to. The Ranger was protecting her that Night, so she couldn't be killed. Did the wolves/wraiths then get another kill? Could they have chosen Nog as a way to still get Fea? Especially if Nog would have been implicated in her death. Because he would certainly been the best canidate for lynching if the deaths were reversed.
Fea is correct in saying the ranger's power overrides that of the wraiths. If the wraiths attack someone under the ranger's protection there is not a death that Night.
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:03 PM   #4
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Now that you're here, Kit, would you also like to clarify whether it will be noted in the narration that the ringbearer changed sides, or not?
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Old 01-26-2009, 04:28 PM   #5
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Now that you're here, Kit, would you also like to clarify whether it will be noted in the narration that the ringbearer changed sides, or not?
If the ringbearer is changed it will be known.
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If the ringbearer is changed it will be known.
Now that's some really, really good news.
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Old 01-26-2009, 04:55 PM   #7
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satansaloser2005 - hard to say much, but not particularly suspicious to me - this far. Could be posting more, though.
Feanor of the Peredhil - a horrible Cobbler
Lariren Shadow - suspicious, to be placed under observation
Mirandir - slipped under my radar, to be placed under observation
Thinlómien Mugwort - seems innocent, although at some points mightily confused (which is not impossible)
Legate of Amon Lanc - that's me
Rikae "Bertha" Broadbottle - innocentish
Aganzir - likewise
Beregond - not saying he is not suspicious at all, but does not ring the alarm bells that much; will be watched closely, though
Nerwen - nothing very suspicious this far. Somewhere in the yellow zone (i.e. between the green and orange. After the orange, there is red, which means a very apparent baddie. Just so that you know )
Rune Son of Bjarne - seems genuine, and genuinely innocent
Macalaure "Barney" Broadbottle Jr. - seems wolfy
Meneltarmacil - I think he seems quite a lot innocent. I trust him more than I do most of the others.
A Little Green - is not posting very much and thus, partially slips under my radar, or rather, I have hard time forming a strongly supported opinion on her; nevertheless, she seems rather innocentish to me.
Brinniel - seems very genuine this far, and more or less innocent-ish. Again, some kind of yellow zone.

If Fea is a Wolf, that would be indeed a terno. As I am pretty certain Mac is one as well. But whatever. Anybody around and posting now?
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:08 PM   #8
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Legate, I think you're losing your objectivity concerning me. Take a deep breath and then please give me another look, for the good of Bree. I won't comment on everything you said about me, because it's a lot. Maybe later or toMorrow. One thing:

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I mean, he not even mentions the chance of Fea being a Cobbler
I said she looks evil, for me, that includes both wraith and cobbler. You deliberately overlooked where I later talked about her being Ferny.

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I had no idea what was going on with regards to any possible bandwagon jumping that has been speculated about.
I didn't necessarily only mean the actual votes, but the suspicions themselves. Fea's points on Durelin were extremely weak, yet three individual persons picked them up during the last half an hour and let their votes be misled instead of sticking to what they've been thinking before.

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Yes, we are friends in real life. Yes, I am a newbie. However, neither of those mean that I won't throw her under the bus if need be.
I didn't mean that and I'm really sorry if it seemed that way. My point is that it was so foolish to seriously suspect Durelin to the point of voting at that point, that I can't believe that you, Fea, Lari, and Rune all did it out of honest intentions.
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:11 PM   #9
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I can't believe no one's done a vote count yet...

(times are in EST)

5:28PM Rikae: ++Greenie (Greenie 1)
8:11PM Aganzir: ++Mac (Greenie 1, Mac 1)
9:43PM Greenie: ++Nogrod (Greenie 1, Mac 1, Nogrod 1)
10:19PM Menel: ++Mac (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1)
10:21PM Lommy: ++Aganzir (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1)
12:35AM Fea: ++Durelin (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 1)
12:57AM Lariren: ++Durelin (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 2)
12:59AM Rune: ++Durelin (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 3)
12:59AM Mirandir: ++Durelin (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 4)
1:00AM Brinniel: ++Fea (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 4, Fea 1)
1:00AM Mac: ++Durelin (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 5, Fea 1)
------PAST DEADLINE----------
1:01AM Durelin: ++Mac (Greenie 1, Mac 3, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 5, Fea 1)
1:01AM Nogrod: ++Durelin (Greenie 1, Mac 3, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 6, Fea 1)
1:01AM Beregond: ++Mac (Greenie 1, Mac 4, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1, Durelin 6, Fea 1)

Did not vote: Legate, Sally, Nerwen

What's scary is that half of the voters voted within three minutes of each other (three of which missed deadline). I admit I am one of those guilty of last-minute voting; the deadline crept on me as it seemed to do for others. But that's not a great excuse, so let's just avoid letting it from happening again. Last minute voting frenzies more often than not turn out badly.
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