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Old 02-03-2009, 05:18 PM   #1
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Lynching a wraith-to-be if xe were revealed is a bad idea, Agan? It may be a bit harsh, but that would at least keep the number of wraiths from increasing.

And now for a short analysis:

Aganzir: Nothing particularly bad here, voted for Lari, Mac, Fea, Brinn, and A Little Green. Though I do find it suspicious that she never seems to let Lari off the hook and the strange need to refute everything Mac says seems unusual as well.

Beregond: Has slipped under my radar for a while. Voted for Mac a lot, and contributed to Brinn's lynching. Also voted Greenie and Fea, both of whom would seem logical choices at the time. Doesn't appear to be particularly evil at this point.

Rune: Votes for a lot of known innocents, and voted Durelin on Day 1 when she wasn't a popular choice. Possible wraith.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:25 PM   #2
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Eye Notice how I used this icon after Agan asked for my reasoning?

Ah, I see that Lari has confirmed what I suspected about her from yesterDay.

I noticed the Saggitarius ==> Archer ==> Rangers are known for their skill with bows thing when I was analyzing her posts, and as I read more, I found that she constantly suspected Durelin for reasons relating to her Rangerish role. I take it, of course, that these suspicions were actually because you thought she was posing as the Ranger to avoid a lynch, Lari?

Anyhow, the reason I didn't outright state what the Saggitarius reference meant was due to the need to protect a Gifted from wraith-killings.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:27 PM   #3
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1420! *glug glug glug*

Oh, to clarify the thing about Rune, he's used the "split the vote but make the choice appear legit" tactic as a baddie before.

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Rune: Votes for a lot of known innocents, and voted Durelin on Day 1 when she wasn't a popular choice. Possible wraith.
You got me there Menel! I thought I could fool you, but you found me out. . . I made you think that I only voted for Wraiths, but infact I have tricked you all and in secret voted for innocents.


Anyways, I guess Beregond is right in his guesses about Lari's relevation.


Answer to Aganzir: I just ment it is easier when you can find a pattern in the voting. . .if it appears random you can use it to very little.
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If she's not the ranger, the real ranger should have no reason to stay hidden this late in the game.
What? If she's not the real ranger and the real ranger reveals himself, he'll be dead. If he stays hidden he can still make a save and buy us an additional Day! Then we would lynch Lari and probably find her to be the cobbler and nothing is won.

Having said that, I don't see any reason why Lari should reveal her role at this point. No vote was cast and her death far from certain. Now she will be killed at night. Then again, it does look honest.

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If we let her live, and she IS the ranger, the wraiths will either find her in the night, or leave her be and hope we waste a lynch tomorrow.
Unlikely. Leaving a known innocent alive is not that much of a risk, but if the ranger is left alive and happens to successfully protect somebody, that's a really bad thing for the wraiths. Lari is dead, unless the wraiths have some reason to believe she's lying (i.e., she's the cobbler).
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What? If she's not the real ranger and the real ranger reveals himself, he'll be dead. If he stays hidden he can still make a save and buy us an additional Day! Then we would lynch Lari and probably find her to be the cobbler and nothing is won.
Indeed. If she's not the Ranger, the real Ranger needs to keep quiet at this point.

It will be a problem if there's two claimants toMorrow though... Can we safely assume that, after toNight, a living Lari is a guilty Lari?
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I'm the real Ranger. I even stupidly left out a night. Before protecting Mac for the first time I protected Fea. Hence why I asked if the wolves/wraiths could get another kill if the one that they wanted to kill was protected. I assumed they would go after Fea after the Durelin lynch and then try to frame Nog. Well they sort of did...if you switch Fea and Nog.

I revealed now because it seemed like the last option, and, well, I'm apparently horrible at the whole who to protect thing.

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No you can't. I can protect myself.
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Legate's death. The trouble, as usual, is finding out whether somebody was killed because he was dangerous or because he left no trails. Legate's is pretty clear about who he suspects. Rune and Brego are innocent, and Nerwen and Aganzir likely so. He initially was tempted to believe Lari innocent, but then changed his mind. He refrains from going after Menel and is deeply unsure of Miri. You can't tell me that Legate was killed because he was dangerous to anybody. Apart from Lari, nobody really had to fear him. This looks good for her (and Miri, too. Menel less so, because he could not have been sure of what Legate was going to do about him toDay.)

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Rangering has a lot to do with luck. Unless an innocent's role is revealed, the chances of successfully protecting somebody are pretty slim. A ranger is a nice thing to have, but she's rarely decisive. Missing the protection of Lommy is some darn bad luck...

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Well, that could make for an interesting Day toMorrow.

Where does it say that, though?

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Just a reminder: no random voting toDay, please. We really need to get either a wraith or Ferny this time, or we are in major trouble toMorrow.

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I probably won't be back before deadline, so I will do like Salvador Allende. . . say "¡Viva Chile! ¡Viva el pueblo! ¡Vivan los trabajadores!" and take my leave.
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Menel was drunk again. As usual. The village was surprised. But they were now coming to believe Menel's drunken fool act was nothing but a clever disguise. It was obvious this drunk was a wraith and they were prepared to test the theory.

Agan and Rune tackled Menel while Mirandir got a chair, Beregond got some rope, Mac got a funnel, and Nerwen and Lariren got four jugs of wine.

The villagers tied Menel to the chair, while he squirmed against the ropes bonds. “I'm innocent! I swear!”

Rune held Menel's head still while Mac put the funnel in his mouth. The villagers then began the process of forcing the town drunk into drinking the wine. Menel sputtered some out, rivers flowed from the corners of his mouth, but for the most part the wine was getting into his system. As a career drunk Menel's body was conditioned to taking lots of alcohol in in a 24 hour period. However, his body wasn't accustomed to so much, so quickly.

In a serious act of rebellion Menel's liver exploded. His death followed seconds later, blood dripping from his mouth and nose, mixing with the red wine. Menel had died with the bottle, the same way he had lived. And he was completely innocent of all crimes except drunken shenanigans.

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Kitanna – Made an example of Night 1 (moddess)
Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)
satansaloser2005 – Brained by Rune Day 5 (wraith)
Rikae – Skinned alive Night 6 (innocent)
A Little Green – Slipped on a banana peel Day 6 (innocent)
Legate of Amon Lanc – Eaten by a bear Night 7 (innocent)
Meneltarmacil – Impossible liver explosion Day 7 (innocent)
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The next morning the villagers awoke to find Beregond missing from the morning meeting. The few villagers that remained walked along to Beregond's home. They hoped he was just sleeping in, but by this point everyone knew better.

Outside Beregond's home the wraiths had displayed the smith's head on a nice long spike. Someone they had even managed to make his death face smile. Beregond looked happy, despite the complete lack of body.

The villagers continued on to see what had become of the body. They found it propped up in front of the fireplace in what looked to be a nice cozy chair. A string was tied to Beregond's wrist and when the villagers opened or closed the front door the arm waved to them. With a smile and a friendly face Beregond moved on to the next life.

It was almost endearing, except for the blood everywhere.

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Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)
satansaloser2005 – Brained by Rune Day 5 (wraith)
Rikae – Skinned alive Night 6 (innocent)
A Little Green – Slipped on a banana peel Day 6 (innocent)
Legate of Amon Lanc – Eaten by a bear Night 7 (innocent)
Meneltarmacil – Impossible liver explosion Day 7 (innocent)
Beregond – Beheaded and put on display Night 8 (innocent)
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Two more innocents dead...This can not be allowed to continue, guys. At this rate the wraiths will have the village overrun in no time flat.

And on that note, I am off to bed. (Yes, I did stay up much later than was probably healthy in order to see who got killed. Sigh. Busy day Thursdays are, but I shall be around nonetheless (bringing the laptop to work? Very possible. ).
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Aiee this is not going well.

Sorry Menel.

So it's 3-3 now. Guess what I realised during the night? It's too late to lynch the cobbler anymore. It should have been done yesterday. And the most annoying thing is that Rikae actually said it but no one paid heed to her.

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When planning the game, Kit probably didn't take into account the Black Breath, which drives people crazy...

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He's too experienced not to know that what he was doing was a recipe for disaster.
Indeed. But basically we should just ignore everything he says now if we want to have any chance to kill a wolf.

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Lari: Well, she's either the Ranger or she's lying her head off– it's that simple.
If she wasn't the ranger, the real ranger would have come out by now, or at least during today. I see no reason not to believe her.
Good job saying you can protect yourself, Lari. It seems the wolves didn't even want to take a risk of missing a kill and now we have a known innocent alive.

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True. That didn't even occur to me and I wondered why you were so puzzled about it.

I have to leave in some 1.5 hours but I won't be away for long, and after that I can be online as long as I wish as I have no need to wake up early tomorrow.
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Mirandir's turn had come. She threw in the towel knowing her death would seal victory for the wraiths, they needed only to kill the ranger and they had Bree under Sauron's control. Mira reluctantly decided to sacrifice herself. It would be easier this way then living in a town controlled by wraiths.

“But make it swift.”

The wraiths with Bill Ferny approached Mira with hate in their eyes. Rune hung back, hoping to avoid murder now that Bree was doomed. Annoyed at the turn of events and in an effort to save Mira from death Lari revealed herself as Strider. No one expected such a feminine Strider, but there she was.

“Don't you touch, Mira! I will kill the whole lot of you!” Lari drew her sword and stood between Mira and the wraiths.

“Foolish ranger, your broken little sword can't stop us.” Nerwen laughed silently. “Surrender to your fate.”

Lari screamed and jumped for Nerwen. The wraith caught the ranger by the neck and began to choke the life out of her. As Nerwen did so, Aganzir fell upon Mira. The wraith struggled with the frightened villager. When she had her pinned she beckoned for Mac's aid, he brought along Agan's tanning equipment. The tanner worked on skinning Mira, eventually her skin would make a lovely rug for the Dark Lord. Meanwhile all the air in Lair's lungs had been squeezed out and Nerwen had begun working on her ventriloquist routine. Mac stood by enjoying his cobbler victory.

Rune, being the final survivor, was half way to the Shire before the wraiths knew he was missing, but they cared little.

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Kitanna – Made an example of Night 1 (moddess)
Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)
satansaloser2005 – Brained by Rune Day 5 (wraith)
Rikae – Skinned alive Night 6 (innocent)
A Little Green – Slipped on a banana peel Day 6 (innocent)
Legate of Amon Lanc – Eaten by a bear Night 7 (innocent)
Meneltarmacil – Impossible liver explosion Day 7 (innocent)
Beregond – Beheaded and put on display Night 8 (innocent)
Mirandir – Skinned and made into a rug Day 8 (innocent)
Lariren Shadow – Choked to death and made into a puppet Night 9 (Strider)

Wraith victory
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