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Old 02-05-2009, 08:35 AM   #1
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Of course, a knee-jerk vote against somebody who made a weird vote against you is so much less suspicious...
So did you find the day 1 voting a good reason to vote for someone on a day when we would have had to get a baddie?

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Yes, but it's a lot less likely. No wraith wants to sacrifice himself to flush out the ranger. It's not worth it.
Lari was heavily suspected and she would probably have been lynched had she not come out.

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Nerwen and Aganzir teaming up to lynch somebody who counts as innocent is very, very suspicious. The fact that both also consider Miri as an option makes me feel a lot better about her.
Hahaha was that a confession?

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Considering how much talk there was about how crucial yesterDay's lynch would be, this reasoning can't be explained with carelessness, it is willfully malign.
I fail to see what is suspicious about trying to see both sides of the issue.

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So?
I much rather think you're evil than that I'm wrong.

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I have to check again, but as far as I remember, only you and Rune were certain about it.
In a village this small, two counts as many people.

Mac seems to be playing with a strategy of his own that I can't understand. And the fact that he's accusing Nerwen makes me feel even better about her.
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:44 AM   #2
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I wonder why Mac starts attacking Nerwen right after she voted for Mira. Does he perchance think Mira is a wolf and tries to keep her from the gallows now...? I don't like it.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:09 AM   #3
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But basically we should just ignore everything he says now
All I can say to this is that I hope the village won't listen to this. This is the reason I've been kept alive, folks, because Aganwraith had faith that she could twist the village's mind into believing this.

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If she wasn't the ranger, the real ranger would have come out by now, or at least during today.
She said it again!

You said we can no longer lynch the cobbler now, but did it also occur to you that if we do end up lynching him/her, that we will play the ranger protection lottery at night? I commented on the same thing yesterDay and you said I was right, now you say it again! I wish I never thought you were innocent. This way of trying to get the ranger's identity is clearly evil.

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So did you find the day 1 voting a good reason to vote for someone on a day when we would have had to get a baddie?
No, but didn't you think that a wraith could have made up a better reason to vote for somebody?

It's a bit beyond me why people always vote for those who look weird instead of those who are suspicious. Didn't you guys learn from Durelin's death? And some wonder what's wrong with this village.

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Hahaha was that a confession?
No, a fact. A fact stated even to those who believe you.

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I fail to see what is suspicious about trying to see both sides of the issue.
What about a person who tells people how important it is that we get it right and then votes for somebody she thinks is half-innocent?

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I much rather think you're evil than that I'm wrong.
Apparently. What I meant, though, is that obviously you thought the same of Menel, too, and possibly of everybody.

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In a village this small, two counts as many people.
And in a village no matter the size, twisting the facts is suspicious.

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I wonder why Mac starts attacking Nerwen right after she voted for Mira.
There are only about 6 hours between our posts, but never mind.
And why do you say "start"? I voted for her yesterDay, remember?


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Old 02-05-2009, 09:29 AM   #4
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I am not suprised that we have an all female wraith team. . . There is two wraiths among Aganzir, Mira and Nerwen. Unless Lari is bluffing, but I am not considering that an option at this moment. I feel that Mira and Nerwen seems more wraith like, but Aganzir has deffinetly played differently than she did in Fea's game and in that game she was innocent.
Now the last two times I have noticed people playing differently they have turned out to be wolves and for that reason I am considering voting for Aganzir, but she has seemed very reasonable and the other two that I found reasonable turned out innocent.

So what if we did not kill the cobbler, it matters not!
If we had killed the cobbler/mac last night, we would just have killed an innocent and not been any closer to winning.
It would not give us an extra chance to kill a wraith, we would just be pushing the desition infront of us. In fact killing the cobbler would have been stupid as we would just have killed an known innocent, atleast there was a chance Menel was a wraith. The cobbler still don't know who the wolves are, so he can still vote for one of them.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:28 AM   #5
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You said we can no longer lynch the cobbler now, but did it also occur to you that if we do end up lynching him/her, that we will play the ranger protection lottery at night?
I'd rather lynch a wolf than take a risk and gamble next night, especially as the situation tomorrow would be completely the same as today, only with one or two persons less. And that doesn't really make a difference... If the wolves & the cobbler manage to cooperate and vote for the same person so that xe'll get xyr three votes first today, they win. If two wolves manage to do it tomorrow, they win. It's all the same.

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No, but didn't you think that a wraith could have made up a better reason to vote for somebody?
It doesn't matter what the reasons are if the baddie is good at manipulating. You almost made at least two innocents follow your vote yesterday, Menel even came up with new points to back up his vote.

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What about a person who tells people how important it is that we get it right and then votes for somebody she thinks is half-innocent?
What if that half-innocent tried to kill someone she thought was innocent?
And if I say he has been innocentish at times, suspicious at others, it means he's half-guilty, not half-innocent. That's how it goes in werewolf. Also, if you don't happen to remember, after Lari's reveal he was the person I suspected the most.

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And in a village no matter the size, twisting the facts is suspicious.
I don't think I was twisting the facts. I only remembered I was not the only one who thought so.

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There are only about 6 hours between our posts, but never mind.
I take it you were fast asleep when she posted and attacked her points right after you saw them.

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And why do you say "start"? I voted for her yesterDay, remember?
With reasoning like "not sure, she just seems the least innocent of these." While your intent was to get her killed, it was not an attack yet.

Grr Mac you're really doing your job well and using my lack of self-discipline for your own ends, I'm just arguing with you although I should be looking for wolves!
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:31 AM   #6
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If two wolves manage to do it tomorrow, they win. It's all the same.
Hmm actually it isn't - they wouldn't even have to do it as they'd win anyway if their number was equal to the number of innocents.
But even if the cobbler was lynched today & there was a succesful ranger protection, it'd be 3-2 tomorrow.

This is looking rather bad in any case.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:40 AM   #7
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In a sense you're right about the cobbler Rune but if we had killed him yesterday, it would be 4-2 now. At the moment it's 3-3, and the cobbler can create havoc and vote with the wolves...

And also, I wouldn't be so sure the cobbler doesn't know who they are. It just seems unlikely. Though on the other hand that would explain why Mac seemed to be afraid of voting for a wolf yesterday.

As for the difference between Fea's game and this, I had school then whereas now I don't so I'm considerably less tired and stressed.

Mira would be my first guess for a wraith but I think I need to take another look at Nerwen and Rune at some point today.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:07 AM   #8
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:27 AM   #9
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As of right now, I'm more inclined to believe that Miri is innocent, mostly because, while she's said some weird things, I kind of think of them as careless newbie mistakes having reread them.

I want to look more at Agan though. She's been very helpful...but almost too helpful at times.

I really can't say more, Tuesdays and Thursdays are my horribly busy days and add on to that that tonight I have an honor society induction and am pretty much not going to be around until really later.
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