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I think that Elrond saw the gathering of the forces in western Beleriand. We do not have much information about the course of the war of wrath, but some sources name a camp on the former watched plain (between Narog and Taiglin), were Enowe summoned alle willing forces to his banner.
What is said about the Elves of Beleriand in the Silmarillion does in my view only count for the last battle in which the forces of Angband were destroied and Morgoth himself at last take captive again. Respectfully Findegil |
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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I might have to agree with narfforc on this one, that Elrond just heard of the host of the Valar from... ... well, wait. Who would he have heard it from? None of the Elves of Beleriand went to Angband, and all the Vanyar promptly packed up for Valinor! I realize this is picking nits, but it bothers me. Maybe it's just because this whole section of the Silmarillion was reconstructed by poor C.Tolkien.
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Of the march of the host of the Valar to the north of Middle-earth little is said in any tale; for among them went none of those Elves who had dwelt and suffered in the Hither Kands, and who made the histories of those days that still are known; and tidings of these things they only learned long afterwards from their kin in Aman.
We know that ships still sailed from the Undying Lands to Mithlond, the Istari came around TA1000. It is possible that the stories migrated back long before that, it is even possible that some of those Maiar were there at Thangorodrim, though we are not told this.
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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Hmmph. That makes perfect, perfect sense.
It just feels like... well, example. Compare it to Frodo telling Sam about the beauty of Smaug's Treasures as if he'd seen it himself, though we know he never really saw the Lonely Mountain: he just learned it from Bilbo. Okay. Thread closed. I'll stop complaining.
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