WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Macalaure · 03-18-2009, 12:30 PM

Durelin's reply to Nogrod's point strikes me as fishy (Nogrod is just Nogrod... eh?).

I'm a bit queasy about the recent lovers discussion. There might be the possibility of "blind lovers", who have to guess their partner's identity. Same with the cobbler discussion before. I can see secret messages flying left and right.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-18-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

So, lovers. If one dies, the other dies. In the past I believe they were usually between a werecreature and a non-werecreature, but is that actually usually the case? And if so, then is the werecreatures lover essentially akin to a cobbler even if they are not specifically the 'cobbler'?

If so, essentially, yes. However, I think it may not be the case, like you say - we can surely have other lovers as well.

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

I'm a bit queasy about the recent lovers discussion. There might be the possibility of "blind lovers", who have to guess their partner's identity. Same with the cobbler discussion before. I can see secret messages flying left and right.

I can see you flying left and right here, so watching you. (And also accusing people who are discussing, completely legitimely - I hope - that.) But the idea of "blind lovers" is also not as impossible, even though in this setting it would be quite hard role to play.

Macalaure · 03-18-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate

I can see you flying left and right here, so watching you.

What else is not new.

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Originally Posted by Legate

(And also accusing people who are discussing, completely legitimely - I hope - that.)

Well, this game is sort of slowed down. The banter phase took three pages, and now we're in the rules-and-roles discussion of questionable value. It's legitimate for sure, but your immediate and strong defense, well...

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Originally Posted by Legate

But the idea of "blind lovers" is also not as impossible, even though in this setting it would be quite hard role to play.

Now this is most peculiar. The most straightforward way to identify your lover, and have your lover identify you, is to talk about the lover role in general. I raise a point against it, and you give a half-hearted "it's not impossible" along with "it would be really hard to play". You see right above there how easy it can be played, possibly, so the first part of that statement is fishy and the second false.

Does this make you guilty? No. You might be a lover, but the problem is: there's no telling of what sort, and blindly lynching lovers is the path to defeat. I'm watching you, too, though.

Shastanis Althreduin · 03-18-2009, 01:48 PM

Badger.

Or, alternatively, mushroom.

Or even snake.

I'll be back after the heavy lifting.

wilwarin538 · 03-18-2009, 01:55 PM

Alrighty, well I have to go to work now, I'll be back in about 6 hours.

Nienna · 03-18-2009, 02:05 PM

Over hill, over dale,
Thorough bush, thorough briar,
Over park, over pale,
Thorough flood, thorough fire,
I do wander everywhere

and my brain hurts from all of the 'meta' role discussion that's going on. It seems to me like all the posting that has been happening toDay might make a lot more sense in the future. This is my first actual game but i've watched and lived vicariously through my roommates in WW for like ever so i do have a little experience and Day one posts never really seem to make sense and especially in this game because no one really knows anything. There wasn't even a Night phase so we can assume the seer is equally uninformed.

Isabellkya · 03-18-2009, 02:24 PM

I'm going to post before I have to refresh again and see a new page. xD

I think Nerwen is definitely a cheerleader for her task, as someone else mentioned.

Yes, to what use would working out whom has a posting requirement?

It could help distinguish the ones who actually have them, and the ones who are trying to look like they have one. I'm not sure how it works here with posting requirements - as in what the normal is. But elsewhere I've played, I don't think I ever saw a baddie with a posting requirement. I think for the most part, because they always draw quick attention, and you can even get lynched depending on the level of annoying-ness.

If we lynch the people whom are acting normal, well who would that be? That would be a pool of one or two, me thinks. Better to lynch the youtube affiliates I would say.

Nogrod · 03-18-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dury

though we have yet to see if he must be a 'quiet' Nogrod. I thought that would spark at least some amusement if not a theory or two.

It's so sad to disappoint people but my orders / guidelines didn't mention anything about posting a lot or a little. I've just had a terrible 11-hour working-day. So I may be making a few posts in the near future after I stick myself to this.

Just a meta-comment before I start looking backwards a bit more closely. Even if it is legitimate, I don't see there being a host of reasons to discuss the possible roles there are on Day1 too extensively in a game where everyone has a role of sorts and not all roles are even known.

But if you have nothing else to go for let's then rather discuss the guidelines / orders different people may have. It looks like a good guess that Dury needs to produce tallies or statistics - and that Fea has been told not to banter (that would explain why she complained her assignment being so hard: her friends having fun-banter to no end and she was not allowed to join it!). But not all guidelines concern themselves with the "playing-style" of the player. Well, mine doesn't. I have been told of different kind of requirements.

I'm not sure if we should talk openly about our own guidelines / orders as I feel it would be a bit against the spirit of the game at least this early (and surely anyone can claim anything) - but we should be able to speculate over that of other players as it might help us in making up our minds when voting - that we don't vote for people for reasons that have to do more with the ModDuck's orders than the lynchee's possible role. What I mean is "let's lynch Fea because she doesn't banter in this game" would be a bad reason to lynch her in this game - at least before something more enlightening comes to the fore. Which doesn't say we shouldn't lynch her in principle...

Having better grasp on these guidelines / orders everyone has to obey we could in the best case avoid some stupid lynches.

Btw. I find Rikae's comment here interesting if not even a bit troubling:

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I feel a bit left out, since I don't have any special posting requirements.

Compare it with this...

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Originally Posted by ModDuck

you will each receive personalized PMs detailing your obligations and/or role for the game.

Hmm...

Okay. Back to the thread now.

03-18-2009, 12:30 PM	#1
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Durelin's reply to Nogrod's point strikes me as fishy (Nogrod is just Nogrod... eh?). I'm a bit queasy about the recent lovers discussion. There might be the possibility of "blind lovers", who have to guess their partner's identity. Same with the cobbler discussion before. I can see secret messages flying left and right. Last edited by Macalaure; 03-18-2009 at 12:32 PM. Reason: changed a word I figured out doesn't exist. :o

03-18-2009, 01:48 PM	#4
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Badger. Or, alternatively, mushroom. Or even snake. I'll be back after the heavy lifting. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

03-18-2009, 01:55 PM	#5
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	Alrighty, well I have to go to work now, I'll be back in about 6 hours. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

03-18-2009, 02:05 PM	#6
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	Over hill, over dale, Thorough bush, thorough briar, Over park, over pale, Thorough flood, thorough fire, I do wander everywhere and my brain hurts from all of the 'meta' role discussion that's going on. It seems to me like all the posting that has been happening toDay might make a lot more sense in the future. This is my first actual game but i've watched and lived vicariously through my roommates in WW for like ever so i do have a little experience and Day one posts never really seem to make sense and especially in this game because no one really knows anything. There wasn't even a Night phase so we can assume the seer is equally uninformed. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

03-18-2009, 02:24 PM	#7
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I'm going to post before I have to refresh again and see a new page. xD I think Nerwen is definitely a cheerleader for her task, as someone else mentioned. Yes, to what use would working out whom has a posting requirement? It could help distinguish the ones who actually have them, and the ones who are trying to look like they have one. I'm not sure how it works here with posting requirements - as in what the normal is. But elsewhere I've played, I don't think I ever saw a baddie with a posting requirement. I think for the most part, because they always draw quick attention, and you can even get lynched depending on the level of annoying-ness. If we lynch the people whom are acting normal, well who would that be? That would be a pool of one or two, me thinks. Better to lynch the youtube affiliates I would say. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.