WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification)

[Nogrod]

I hope you change your mind Fea as I'm willing to declare Nilp a cobbler. See how he is distracting our heads and successfully barring any real discussion - myself the foremost - as I seem to not be able to think of anything else now but different Fibonacci-scenarios...

And anyway the way he begs to be lynched doesn't feel right. If he's the phantom's aprrentice's "dark side" we probably really should avoid lynching him. The good-killer role was triggered by a Night-killing attempt so the bad-killer role should be triggered by a lynch.

So Nilp is a cobbler or a demonical killler waiting to be triggered by our attempt to kill him. In both cases lynching him would be a bad idea. I may be wrong though but I'm not sure I'm ready to suggest taking the risk of finding it out.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Okay.

--NILP

Fair argument.

So my not-votes are, Me, Nog, Rikae, Nilp.

Nog... Mith?

Worrisome. No idea what to think.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Nog... Mith?
Worrisome. No idea what to think.

That's a good question. Maybe the ducks know things we don't - like Mith can't be killed by Night any more as she is Gandalf the White, the flashing light; or if they learned about Brinn being the ranger and made killing her their priority as they would have basically free kills after that (unless there are more very-very-special roles on the good side); or something?

I do think the evidence points heavily towards Mith being the phantom's apprentice and it's hard for me to see her role being other than benevolent (add there also all those Gandalf-hints in the narration).

I'll need to go now but I will come back after a few hours for another sit with this game.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Seriously.

Fine.

My burning house/pitcher of water analogy still stands, now I know why you won't do the obvious thing--you're thinking of buying a fire extinguisher.

I can't believe this village . . .

[Rikae]

Clever boy, Bubbles. Teeheehee....

But you know, what'ever Mith is, we have to get rid of her. That's becoming increasingly obvious. Do we have enough votes to do it?

How openly can we speak?

As an alternative, we could always lynch Nogrod.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Rikae

As an alternative, we could always lynch Nogrod

We oughtn't to.

How openly can we speak?

This openly: I can take one for the team if necessary. I'd rather it not be necessary, so I'd rather nobody spoke openly unless they knew enough to make it worth it. And it would only be truly beneficial if I knew a duck before I went all harakiri on the world.

No, I am not the seer; seer don't come forth. No, I am not the hunter; hunter, don't come forth. No, I can't actually kill myself; I can, however, take advantage of my Mod-given talents.

Please don't ask me to explain. I'm not at all sure that my short leash allows such open communication from me, eh, Sally? I'm not even sure this post won't get me modfired...

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Ahem.

I mean-

Be prudent.

Think twice, good team.

Game not over yet.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Fea, I guess that's two of us at the stake ere NIGHTfall.

[Durelin]

How many people do we have claiming to be some sort of suicide-bomber now?

Seriously. Work. Bleh.

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I do think the evidence points heavily towards Mith being the phantom's apprentice

But what evidence is there other than her suggesting she is? The duck (ducks only if you count her suggestions that Nienna was a duck and if wilwa was killed by the phantom's apprentice and if she is the pa...) she claims to have 'delivered' to us were suspected and lynched based on suspicion unless there is more going on behind the scenes than I know of...well I know there is but I don't think everyone who voted for Lommy and Nienna knew they were wolves or voted for them on Mith's orders.

Originally Posted by Gwath

Mith - Phantom's apprentice, I think. Why else would she still be alive?

Do you know something we (or at least I) don't? If she's what she claims to be, a wolf delivery system, then wouldn't the wolves want her dead?

Maybe they did think/know that they couldn't kill her. I don't know. And I wonder why some people seem to.

Originally Posted by Mith

Everyone has their own agenda.... I think mine shall now be to be amuse the Modesses but it will have to be later now....

Are you done 'delivering' ducks then?

Originally Posted by Nog

So Nilp is a cobbler or a demonical killler waiting to be triggered by our attempt to kill him.

I'm a bit more open-minded than that. It's Nilp. He's good at getting you to 'ignore' him until he's the last one standing.

A possibility is that he is actually a day hunter (will be able to hunt the person of his choice when he is lynched). The question is if he is on our side or not.

He does still seem to be claiming here and there that he is the phantom's apprentice, though.

Really I would not mind getting rid of Nilp or Rikae because I'm not sure if we can remain sane with both of them around.

Lari seems the most straight-forwardly wolfish to me in her cautious behavior and her voting record. This is hardly a straight-forward game but I'm not sure what else to go on.

Nogrod is just naturally starting to bother me, I'm afraid. Really I am all for lynching him and Mac for taking the fibonacci sequence thing and running with it...especially since you then declare in your next post, Nog, that Nilp is probably just a cobbler.

I'm not sure why Fea chose to use her retraction so quickly. Boredom, I guess?

Really need to go do some work...argh.

Edit: crossed with Nilp, Rikae, Fea

[Rikae]

Oh, something just occurred to me about Mith "delivering ducks" ....

[Rikae]

I think I know who all the ducks in the village at this moment are. Lot of good it does the village, though.

*keeps mouth shut*

[Rikae]

M mom and I were just discussing psychiatrists, and she said "oh, I think they're all quacks".

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Are you done 'delivering' ducks then?

I am if I am lynched... I was going all out for the village but maybe now it isn't about good an evil, it is about who is nice to me....

Talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs...

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Durelin

I just don't know how long we can just 'ignore' them...while spending so much time wondering what the heck they're up to. ><

Chances are, they will annihilate each other within the next two days.

In any case, they will soon be fewer. Given some time, and maybe more info, we will be better able to tell who (of the remaining) is what. In any case they're not all evil, and I'd rather not lynch a gifted.


You people clearly post too much! How is one supposed to keep up with reading?

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

You people clearly post too much! How is one supposed to keep up with reading?

Noggin is quiet - especially since he has no competition ... I bet he has a daily quota of posts LOL. Not sure there are many others in compatible time zones.... Kath of course ... but that is it for this hemisphere and side of the pond as far as I know....

[Mithalwen]

Ooh that shut them up....

Well I shall talk to myself.

Observations.

Fea is being restrained. This is a clear indication that she is responsible for something or too something. As an ordo she gets terribly bored and is absolutely no holds barred. I don't think as an ordo she would be so concerned with what ever restriction she is under.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I'm not suited for this. Maybe I'll just sic Adam on you tomorrow.

Anyway, let's do more lists:

• Feanor of the Peredhil: Used nominative pronouns. Is dead. (Not a threat, a statement.)
  
  
• Durelin: Has delivered fowl words, and should be lynched.
  
  
• Nogrod: Has the temerity to imagine me to be the Cobbler. Pfft. Imagine that. Will be killed toNIGHT.
  
  
• Isabellkya: Can't distinguish between natural Cobblery and Cobblery to cover Avian behaviour.
  
  
  
  
  
• Nerwen: Should cheer more. I'll let her live. For now.
  
  
• Rikae: Is stealing my limelight. Lynch.
  
  
• Mithalwen: Is my dearest mum. Is stealing my role. (Or am I stealing hers? )
  
  
• Kath: Is quiet. Has not posted today. Lynch.
  
  
• Lariren Shadow: Knows too much about Duck formations. Lynch.
  
  
• Macalaure: Took Fibonacci sequence seriously, albeit in the wrong direction. I'll keep him.
  
  
• Gwathagor: Wants to lynch me. Go ahead punk, make my day. *squints*
  
  
• Nilpaurion Felagund: Will be dead tomorrow . . . to be replaced by Adam.

[Rikae]

Hm. Those ducks weren't lynched because of Mith, but because they were obviously ducks. Well, I thought Lommy might be the seer momentarily, but then Nienna made a comment that made it clear they were both in the "flock" together. I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed that.

So if Mith is "delivering" ducks, she's doing so in a way we don't want. Either she's part of a growing flock, throwing the others to the village to make herself look good, or she is actually causing the flock to grow somehow.

Therefore:

++Macalaure

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Hm. Those ducks weren't lynched because of Mith, but because they were obviously ducks. Well, I thought Lommy might be the seer momentarily, but then Nienna made a comment that made it clear they were both in the "flock" together. I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed that.

So if Mith is "delivering" ducks, she's doing so in a way we don't want. Either she's part of a growing flock, throwing the others to the village to make herself look good, or she is actually causing the flock to grow somehow.

Therefore:

++Macalaure

This is just the funniest post of the whole game.

don't suppose you would care to illustrate how they were obviously ducks, and point out Nienna's comment?

Or to explain why you voted for me when Nienna was so obviously a duck?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

So if Mith is "delivering" ducks, she's doing so in a way we don't want. Either she's part of a growing flock, throwing the others to the village to make herself look good, or she is actually causing the flock to grow somehow.

Or might it be you who are doing it? (the bolded thing I mean) Interesting you came up with such a role to this game just by yourself...

A nice detail: you said you knew who the ducks were. Of course you know then...

The more I think of that the more credible it starts to look like. You Rikae are the spawner of the ducks around here - and you count on us not daring to lynch you because you promise us fire and brimstone or looking more like a cobbler wishing herself lynched. I mean in a way you do those both at the same time - at least you did so yesterDay as I remarked already then.

It becomes anyway much more symmetric and more neat this way as well.

The baddies have a duck-giver, we have a duck-killer.

One of the weird roles (Mith) at least started good - and the other (Nilp) then started bad.

Now whether Mith by her Nightly deed of saving us from a kill stayed a goodie or turned into neutrality - or even to evil - is something we don't know. And what would happen if Nilp was lynched I'm not too happy to try out.

[Durelin]

I hate you all for increasing my sinus headache and making me hungry.

Should we just lynch Rikae and get it over with? Right, unless that activates her blinding...darkness.

And stop crying "fire", Nilp.

Back to Aristophanes. I really must...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Back to Aristophanes. I really must...

Even Parmenides would make more sense than this game.

[Gwathagor]

Suspicious
Rikae - Cobblerish for sure
Nilp - Duck impersonating a cobbler? That's my guess, anyway
Kath - Duckish

Less Suspicious
Nerwen - A duck would have been more careful with her votes on Days 1 and 2
Lariren - Not as sure about Lariren, could be a wereduck who's been lying low
Durelin - Her vote was instrumental in lynching Nienna; may have been a duck-on-duck, but I think not
Izzy - I'm not sure, but she feels innocent to me

Least Suspicious
Mith - Phantom's apprentice, I think. Why else would she still be alive?
Nogrod
Fea
Mac

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So Nilp is a cobbler or a demonical killler waiting to be triggered by our attempt to kill him. In both cases lynching him would be a bad idea. I may be wrong though but I'm not sure I'm ready to suggest taking the risk of finding it out.

Or Nilp could simply be protecting his mother. But I need to look up this fibonnacci thing..I didn't get beyong fib...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Don't worry, dear, I haven't hurt you.

Oh, and mother, the Fibonacci thing was nothing, I just wanted one more vote.

[Nogrod]

Sally, could we make a triple-lynch? Just toDay? Please!

These specials are making me crazy with their multi-layered scheming!

[Rikae]

Yay! Triple lynch!

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Mith

But I need to look up this fibonnacci thing

Ah, so that's what they're calling it these days.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Ah, so that's what they're calling it these days.

You can annoy even your most devoted acolyte you know?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Haha, try me.

[Rikae]

That's right, Mac, you can afford to waste the lynch.

I recall a game where a practically known cobbler was left until the end, because everyone kept thinking they had time before his vote would matter...

EDIT: X'd with an icon-thief. Hmph!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Mistress, I've been using it for quite a while now. So, shall I say the reverse is true?

Do you care if I don't know what to say? Will you sleep tonight, or will you think of me?

Anyway, I, like Durie dear, am hungry. *off for some pie* * at phantom*

[Rikae]

I first used it on Day 1, post 151.

[Durelin]

As long as you don't go beating my game's quadruple-lynch record.