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Old 03-27-2009, 11:06 AM   #1
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Hurt and Heal Round 3
Okay let's start taking nominations. This round will be only from characters that appear in Lord of the Rings.

The rules will be the same as last time as it seemed to work well enough.

From 20 to 7 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts are allowed.

From 6 to 4 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts ar not allowed: a player has to hurt 2 different characters and heal one, or he may use only 1 hurt and 1 heal.

When but 3 characters are left each player has either a hurt or a heal.

Wait for at least four posters to vote prior to you voting again.

These rules can change whenever deemed appropriate.

Let's begin nomination but go easy on them so as to not monopolize the decisions.

I proudly and unabashedly nominate Samwise Gamgee and Glorfindel.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:26 AM   #2
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I'll second Glorfindel.

And let's not have all the same people as last time. I nominate-
Gildor
Imrahil
Ioreth
Fatty
Celeborn

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Old 03-27-2009, 11:35 AM   #3
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:07 PM   #4
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I nominate Faramir (REVENGE on PJ !)
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at the end of A Fish Called Wanda)

Rosie Cotton
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:32 PM   #5
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I nominate:

Gaffer Gamgee
Lobelia
Nob
Gríma
Erkenbrand
Gollum
Denethor
Elladan and/or Elrohir
The Mouth of Sauron

I second:

Fatty Bolger
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:54 PM   #6
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I nominate Halbarad and Bill the Pony

I would second Nob

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Old 03-27-2009, 01:10 PM   #7
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Second Halbarad and also nominate Gilraen. I presume Apendices count?
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:27 PM   #8
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Do we vote based just on their LOTR merit? (this only applies to elves)

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Old 03-27-2009, 01:30 PM   #9
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I second-
Faramir
Erkenbrand
Denethor
Gilraen (if Gilraen is allowed)
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:03 PM   #10
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I second Sam, Gollum and Grima

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Old 03-27-2009, 02:26 PM   #11
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So, if I am not mistaken, the lists for now look like that:

Got 1 vote:
Gildor
Ioreth
Celeborn
Rosie Cotton
Barliman Butterbur
Lobelia
Elladan and/or Elrohir
The Mouth of Sauron
Bill the Pony
Khamûl
Saruman

Got 2 votes:
Glorfindel
Imrahil
Denethor
Erkenbrand
Faramir
Fatty Bolger
Gaffer Gamgee
Gilraen (if Gilraen is allowed)
Gollum
Gríma
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I second Elladan and/or Elrohir and propose they count as one as they are not very indivdualistic.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:02 PM   #13
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:39 PM   #15
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Third(?) Bill the Pony

Nominate:
Caradhras the Cruel
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Old 03-28-2009, 05:59 AM   #16
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1 vote:
Gildor
Ioreth
Celeborn
Rosie Cotton
Barliman Butterbur
The Mouth of Sauron
Khamûl
Caradhras the Cruel
Goldberry
Bergil

2 votes:
Bill the Pony
Denethor
Elladan and/or Elrohir
Erkenbrand
Faramir
Fatty Bolger
Gaffer Gamgee
Gilraen
Glorfindel
Gollum
Gríma
Halbarad
Imrahil
Lobelia
Nob
Samwise Gamgee
Saruman

We have three more places, it seems.
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:28 AM   #17
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Sam was on the first list - weren't we trying to avoid those?
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:40 AM   #18
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I second Caradhras the Cruel and nominate Dain II Ironfoot.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:18 AM   #19
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I must say I second Dain II Ironfoot
one of the more remarkable (and generally
overlooked) of dwarves, and the owner
of yet another cool moniker.

Btw, there's this tidbit about dwarf armor related to
him, indicating one reason for dwarf prowess in battle:
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King of the Lonely Mountain during the War of the Ring. Dain was born in 2767. He was of the line of Durin and was the son of Nain and the grandson of Gror, who led a company of Dwarves to settle in the Iron Hills.
At the Battle of Azanulbizar in 2799, Nain was killed by the Orc leader Azog. Dain, who was only a young Dwarf at the time, avenged his father by cutting off Azog's head with his red axe. Dain then looked through the East-gate into Moria and became aware that Durin's Bane, the Balrog, still lurked there. Dain came away from the Gate with a look of great fear, and he counselled his cousin Thrain that the time had not yet come for the Dwarves to enter Moria.

Dain returned to the Iron Hills where he took over from his father as the leader of the Dwarves there. Among the items wrought by Dain's people were leg-coverings of fine and flexible mesh that only they knew how to make.
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I second Bergil

1 vote:
Gildor
Ioreth
Celeborn
Rosie Cotton
Barliman Butterbur
The Mouth of Sauron
Khamûl
Caradhras the Cruel
Goldberry


2 votes:
Bill the Pony
Denethor
Elladan and/or Elrohir
Erkenbrand
Faramir
Fatty Bolger
Gaffer Gamgee
Gilraen
Glorfindel
Gollum
Gríma
Halbarad
Imrahil
Lobelia
Nob
Samwise Gamgee
Saruman
Dain II Ironfoot
Caradhas the Cruel
Bergil

so unless there are any major objections to this, such as Rikae with Sam. Does anybody else have a major concern with this? Let us move on and begin to vote. Let's wait at least a few hours to allow people to express their opinion. As much as I love Sam I'm okay if he's not on as I don't know how I will handle two oustings.
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Old 03-28-2009, 01:19 PM   #21
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Personally I am in favor of no repeats at his point. There are still plenty of characters available.

And I will second Caradhras.

And what, no one likes Gildor enough to second him? He actually had some lines in LotR.
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I have seconded Sam, but I have no problem with removing him.
We can choose someone else...
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If Sam goes, I'll second Gildor as I see we are very low on elves.
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I will second

Goldberry
Butterbur

and nominate

Harry Goatleaf
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Sam goes and Gildor is in. Let the voting begin.

Double hurt Caradhas, something about a mountain with his own will just doesn't seem right. Heal Glorfindel

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Gildor (10)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
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Halbarad (10)
Imrahil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (10)
Saruman (10)


Good nominees Kent but sorry as our limit was set at 20.
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Hurt the creepy Grima and Nob. What sort of name is that?
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Hurt the pointy-eared loafer Gildor. Hurt the mountain.
Heal Denethor.

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Hurt Dain and Halbarad, heal Gríma

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Double-hurt Gerbil.
Heal Caradhras--the Mountain does not move!

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Hurt Nob and Bill the Pony

Heal Caradhras

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Hurt Denethor Hurt Elladan and/or Elrohir
Heal Caradhras (a towering presence in this contest)

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Double hurt Caradhras, Heal Denethor

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Come on now- it's cool to have a mountain in the running! And remember, he defeated the Fellowship. He's a big bad rock.

Heal Caradhras, Hurt Gaffer, Hurt Gollum

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Old 03-29-2009, 09:28 AM   #35
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I would be willing to save Caradhras, but we should come up with some agreed targets. I have a funny story about a rather large rock...I just wish that rock was as alive as Caradhras, we might have won.

I would not be willing to eliminate Gollum, but any of the other hobbits wouldn't bother me. Lobelia is somewhat of an interesting character, but she's expendable.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:44 AM   #36
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Heal Bill the Pony. Hurt Saruman and Grima.

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Old 03-29-2009, 10:56 AM   #37
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Double hurt Fatty, heal Grima.

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Old 03-29-2009, 11:20 AM   #38
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Double hurt Gildor, heal Saruman

+ add the overlooked phantom's votes (see above: Heal Caradhras, Hurt Gaffer, Hurt Gollum)

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Hurt Fatty and hurt Gildor

Heal Caradhras

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Double-hurt Gildor,
Heal Fatty Bolger.

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