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Old 04-17-2009, 06:57 PM   #1
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Fair enough... I am mollified, I guess, insofar as I don't know you, so I can't distinguish between newbie covering (especially since, were that so, you could assisted by PMing with the other Wolves) and honesty--but at for know, I'm mollified. Though, I suppose, if you are a wolf, and you die, we should be looking for people who posted on this thread between those two posts to find someone who potentially might have been a PM partner.

Hmm... that might actually be an interesting gambit: lynching Kent to see if he's a wolf. It's tenuous grounds, to be sure, but that's sort of the prevailing atmosphere.
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What stands out about this is that I almost am painted into a no win situation. Were you jumping the gun Formendacil? Lynch me, and if I turn up a wolf check for any of my PM partners? You say you're mollified but conclude with the curious statement of test lynching me to see if I'm a wolf?

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Hey, Nilp!

I haven't got any good voting plans? Want me to throw away my vote on you, since you can't autovote?
-post 254
Would you like to be test-lynched to figure out what we do with Nilp?

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Speaking of Nilp, I feel like I should keep more of an eye on him this game. He has a tendency to slip under my radar because of his long-standing auto-vote, self-destruct, and-guess-what?-he's-an-ordo role, and long-standing prejudices are hard to shake... and Nilp has a long standing "good guy" prejudice in my mind. Not saying he's guilty (no evidence in the slightest to do so yet), but reminding myself to do so.
-post 305
Keeping the oppurtunity open to turn on a partner if needed?

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To put it in other words, perhaps the wolves decided that, if Aganzir was converted to their side, and we woke up today with no one missing from our midst, she'd be the last one we'd look for as a converted new wolf, simply because she had been so conspicuous yesterday, and thus the sort of noisy person that wolves leave around to keep the heat off themselves.

I'm hardly wedded to this, but it's the best theory that offers something rather than just random confusion as the answer--at least to my mind.
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With the threat of Luthien still around are the wolves really looking to cause random confusion for their kills?

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I am deeply amused that this little interjection of mine is getting so much attention. If it reads like "by the way, I don't see why everyone was suspicious of Nienna yesterday," that's because that is very much what I was saying... but in a slightly different tense. More along the lines of "by the way, I didn't see THEN why everyone was suspicious of Nienna." Granted, I may not be helping myself with this clarification... but you ARE more or less interpreting me right--not going to complain about that.
-post 330
This is Form's response to his statement regarding Nienna, and taking the moral highground as Nogrod mentioned...I wonder if I should analyze why you all capped 'ARE' pretty much saying my interpretation of it was correct?

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And that's all I've looked at today... I sort of defended Kuru as not being a cobbler, but that doesn't mean he's not a wolf.
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This looks like a sneaky attempt to offer Kuru up as a possible lynching. I think Form's had that consistant tone regarding Kuru throughout the game, in some ways poking suspicion (albeit using a 40 and a half foot poll so he can keep his distance from a messy situation), but at the same time explaining why he wouldn't vote for Kuru.

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Yes. What's up with those votes, Fea dear? I was going to say something when I cross-posted, but I had to be moving quickly... and I'd hoped you'd explicate with a string of one-liner posts. Or something. But this is right out of the blue! The Kuru-suspicion not so much... but the bonus votes? Typically impulsive, maybe... or cobblery-deviant? I don't know...
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Trying to get suspicion rolling against Fea?

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Albeit, I have a few misgivings because it's a tenuous feeling at best, but she's as far up my suspicion list as anyone is, and if it spurs Nog's one-man-bandwaggon in that direction rather than Fea's or Kuru's--well, that sits closest to my intuitions this evening.
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I think this is my biggest issue with Formendacil, how uncommitting he's been throughout (in this post he votes for Greenie), but it's been more than uncommitting. In Day 1, he sneakily shifted suspicion towards Nienna:
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And, in other news, I'm still no closer to a vote. Well, maybe an inch or two. I'm concerned that Nienna's vote for Nogrod was made with the encouragement that I might vote in that direction.
-back tracking to post 248
And he did the same to the day 2 lynch - Kuru the next day, shifting suspicion towards him, but spending most of his time defending Kuru because of his defense of Kuru for Day 1. The problem is when push comes to shove, Formendacil goes in an opposite direction and makes a safe play. On Day 1 he casts a random vote for Nilp and Day 2, he votes for probably the person he thought was most suspicious (or said he was most suspicious of) however it's a safe play.

What's more striking about his vote for Greenie is there are no bonus votes with it. Well maybe he just wasn't confident? The thing is before he told Nogrod that he would go 'contra-Kentian' (great word by the way ) and prefer that Nogrod vote for Greenie. However, he really forces Nogrod into a tough choice, by choosing not to give Greenie any bonus votes. Nogrod new I wasn't going to vote for Greenie (and Formendacil knew I wouldn't either) so if Nogrod did want Greenie as an option (either to save himself or for another candidate) Nogrod would have to dump a lot of his bonus votes, while Formendacil would not.

The last thing is after his vote for Greenie, Formendacil does stick around and play a distant role at the same time chiming in about Kuru and me (post 380).
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:00 PM   #2
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Are you perhaps being a bit over dramatic here Nog?

Vote Tally (unless I missed one somewhere?):

Kent -> Brin(1). 2
Sally -> Kent. 1
Green -> Nog. 1
Fea -> Nog. 2


Nog, Brin 2. Kent 1.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:12 PM   #3
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Why wouldn't the three want to cause confusion with their kills Kent? It distracts the village if the kills don't point in a clear direction.

Which begs the thought.
Perhaps part of the three's decision making process. They are going after people who are A) most Ordo looking, B) either going to be dreamed really early or not at all and C) aren't super suspects.

Because what more perfect set-up for the three, than to turn someone who has already been dreamed of by the Seer?

X'd with Nog.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:16 PM   #4
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Are you perhaps being a bit over dramatic here Nog?
Oh, I had forgotten that first vote by Kent...

But still I think you have the tally wrong.

Isn't it like this?

Kent -> Brin(1). 2
Sally -> Kent. 1
Green -> Nog. 1
Fea -> Nog. 2

Nog2, Brinn2. Kent1.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:30 PM   #5
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Nog, Brinn 2. Kent 1.
That's what the comma after "Nog" is for, Nog. "Nog and Brinn, two votes. Kent, one vote."

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:36 PM   #6
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Ah haha.
I suppose the comma does make it confusing.
Though I thought I'd put an & in there.
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What's more striking about his vote for Greenie is there are no bonus votes with it. Well maybe he just wasn't confident? The thing is before he told Nogrod that he would go 'contra-Kentian' (great word by the way ) and prefer that Nogrod vote for Greenie. However, he really forces Nogrod into a tough choice, by choosing not to give Greenie any bonus votes. Nogrod new I wasn't going to vote for Greenie (and Formendacil knew I wouldn't either) so if Nogrod did want Greenie as an option (either to save himself or for another candidate) Nogrod would have to dump a lot of his bonus votes, while Formendacil would not.
A good and an accurate description Kent! Appreciated! Even if it sounded familiar I hadn't quite grasped Form's role in it until now as you show it.

Now a good night for a few hours!
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