WW LX - Mortal Men, doomed to die

[Nogrod]

Brinn -> Sally
Shasta -> Nogrod
Nilp -> Nilp
Rune -> Isabellkya
Wilwa -> Eomer
Sally -> Nogrod 2
Lhuna -> Legate
Kent -> Rune
Nienna -> Sally 2

Of those who have garnered votes this far I'd be most happy to vote for Sally basically for bandwaggoning an innocent.

Other ideas? Lots of votes yet to come...

[Thinlómien]

End of Day1, stop posting.

Isabellkya was lynched.

I will check the votes now and then reveal her role, because due to me spending the past hour or so studying and MSNing instead of sketching a narration, it won't be ready very soon...

Ringwraiths, you may start plotting and then send me your pick. Gifteds, you may submit picks too.

[Thinlómien]

"What a distasteful deed, truly!"
"Could there be a greater mark of dishonor than killing the hostess?"
"My my my, what a terrible happening."

The guests were appalled at the horror of the nightly deed. Most of them, at least. Some of them let their misantrophic tendencies to show instead:

"I should think, if we are to be slaughtered, that we won't be a great loss..." Eomer muttered. " So, now, let's see, kill all humans, yes, well..."

But sooner rather than later, they started discussing the actual matters at hand: Kent tried to make mysterious deals with King Legate, Sally and Nilp planned an elopment and Eönwë, Legate and Nogrod debated about philology. Captain Nogrod also attacked the quiet so ferociously that the others nicknamed him "zealot". Some also promoted the pirate dialect and Queen Nerwen even started singing drinking songs. In the end, however, they decided somebody had better ”walk the plank” (as Nienna would have phrased it), and unfortunately for her, that somebody was to be Lady Isabellkya.

She faced her doom with a calm. ”Bye bye”, she said, when Rune, Legate, Kath, Eomer and Eönwë stabbed her with knives they had found from the kitchen.

Isabellkya lay unmoving on the floor and nothing happened.
”Now what is this supposed to tell us?” wondered Shasta.
”Plain enough!” said Brinn. ”She was innocent, so the murderer is somebody else. I say we kill Sally too.”
”Good idea!” agreed Nienna.
”Yarr,” echoed Nogrod, but his voice was lost in the noise that started at the other end of the room.

”You shall definitely not kill anyone else today!” Lord Thinroz shouted, standing up and walking to his guests. ”There has been enough innocent blood today and I will tolerate no more killing in this house. Go to sleep!”

Frightened and baffled by the sudden outburst, the lords and sorcerers exchanged sheepish glances and retreated to their bedrooms.

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1

Alive
Kath
Nienna - pirate
Kent2010 - Black Númenórean scam artist
Legate of Amon Lanc - rebelling Haradian King
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Nilpaurion Felagund - fussy courtier
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Groin Redbeard - Variag Warlord of Khand
satansaloser2005
Eönwë
Brinniel

[Thinlómien]

Once again, the four met in the moonlit salon. One of them had the four swords with him.
”It was not too difficult to find them... that silly woman had locked them up with brooms and other cleaning equipment,” he chuckled.
”I hope you at least left a dead chicken there to scare her, or something,” one of his allies said in a rather sarcastic tone, picking his sword.
”There are no chickens on this island,” a third one observed in a just as critical tone, taking his sword too.
The last one thought the discussion was not even worth continuing, and picked his sword in silence.

The first one, now holding only his own sword, swung it in a beautiful arch. ”So, who shall we get rid of tonight?”

~*~

In the morning, all of the guests - save one poor soul - woke up and walked downstairs just like the morning before. And just like the morning before, there was a body on the table, four cuts on the right arm.

”Spooky,” Nienna the pirate said with a shiver.
”Interesting,” observed Rune the sorceror.
”Disgusting!” exclaimed the queens Lhuna and Nerwen in unison.

And poor Kath, the body on the table, did not say anything at all.

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1
Kath (ordo) – killed on Night2

Alive
Nienna - pirate
Kent2010 - Black Númenórean scam artist
Legate of Amon Lanc - rebelling Haradian King
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Nilpaurion Felagund - fussy courtier
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Groin Redbeard - Variag Warlord of Khand
satansaloser2005
Eönwë
Brinniel

Day2 has started. Everybody, feel free to talk. Hunter, feel free to change your pick at any point suitable for you.

[satansaloser2005]

Awwww, Kath! *hugs her, or would if she wasn't dead* To think Nilp and I return to this. The poor dear!


K, which one of you did it and why?


(I'm going to go look at her posts and see what I can find, but be patient since I need to work on my paper that's due tomorrow.)

[Kent2010]

Changes from yesterday, I no longer suspect Rune. After further thought, and looking through his posts, just by the way he went after Nogrod pretty good yesterday he looks innocent. Nogrod seems to be a player that wolves would let be, and let him do his own thing, someone they would not want to tangle with unless he became too big of a problem. It could be contrived, but the way Rune went after Nogrod early on yesterday does not seem evil.

Anyways I guess it comes down to my use of the word "random"
-Rune

For me, it really was not the word random, although I did question how Eomer said it was the only one of the bunch that made sense if you yourself said it was '98% random.' It looked more like slapping on a general label (saying Izzy's first post was careful) just said it looked like you had some reason to it. However, Izzy's posts further in the day definitely did look careful.

My only question is why Izzy, why not wilwarin? The way she explained her vote as Legate said made it look like she was voting to not look suspicious and not necessarily the person she most suspected. Also, post 61 just has careful written all over it.

My other question (for everyone to start the day), what is with the multiple people saying "If I live," "If I stay alive...," or similar words?

In post 39 Brinn says "shall I survive..."
Shasta in 42 says"If I live..." and promises to do more today
wilwarin in 51 says "If I make it"
and
Izzy in 86 said "If I am still alive..."

Izzy turned out to be a known innocent, but Ijust don't like these types of phrases, because it just seems unecessary, or at least unnecessary at this point of the game. If the person who says it is a wolf, it looks like a clever way to protect yourself from a lynch because it reads as "I am going to do more tomorrow, and see I am already thinking ahead...IF I survive!" I am curious to what others think about this, maybe it's just that I still don't know the 'lingo,' or is it something more evil?

And I have completely flipped about Nogrod - more later...if I am still alive! (I just couldn't resist the melodrama.)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

All right, well. Kath... I think she was not very active yesterDay, was she? I will take a look at her posts more in detail, but my initial impression is that she was not very active, so possibly she has been picked to leave no tracks. I will take a look...

Anyway, another thing to consider might be yesterDay's voting. Basically, there were several choices at the beginning - and by the way, I would hope that toDay we will avoid randomness anymore - but perhaps there may be something determined from the latter voting - though not sure. Because in fact, the decisive voting happened in the last-minute voting fray and in a bit of unclear situation. Kath herself voted for Isabell at the moment when it became equal... I think there can be hardly anything as a reason for kill. So that would really look like a safe kill.

Whatever. I shall look now and see, also if other people manage to show around. I don't think I will be around for a long time now, but if I go to sleep earlier, I should be able to post perhaps also in the morning (my time), at least a bit.

[wilwarin538]

Here and reading, be back shortly with thoughts...

[wilwarin538]

A list:

Izzy - 35: says day ones are difficult, shouldn't find people guilty for being their usual day 1 selves, 69: not worried about Nog, agrees the RPing should stop, 77: thought Legate was being silly about the Nilp vote, 86: made a list, 98: talks about her possible vote, 107: the reason for her death, wants to keep the tie, after Nog doesn't like that, votes Sally....dies, is innocent

Kath - #17: says hi, 40: points out that she said morrow and not Morrow, 82: confused about possible Nogrod bandwagon, 103: nice long list, 111: votes Izzy cause of "the post"....dies, is innocent

Nienna - #24: says hi, will be back, has no inclinations since it is Day 1, 37: defends herself to Nogrod, says she wants to participate more in this game, 80: votes Sally because of her Nog vote

Kent - #12: introduces his character to Legate, 16: wants to make a deal with Legate, 63: pretty random comments, but long, 78: votes Rune,

Legate - #6: describes how he is familiar with some and not with others, says there isn't much to say Day 1 but wants people to talk, 8: says Eomer is disrespectful, then says that's not really important, 9: comment on Shasta's post, 11: calls Eomer a terrible person, 13: comments on Kent, then says everyone should try to say more important things, 15: repeats that, 23: happy there is discussion, will be back later, is optimistic, 44: nice long list, so not rewriting all that, 59: thinks people should stop RPing, doesn't like my vote reasoning, doesn't like Nilp's vote (though he almost always does that, if he didn't then we should worry), keeping an eye on Sally, 65/66: blur for everyone, except feels good about Eomer and Legate, 70: says he's never played with me, when he has once, but doesn't like my reasoning either, 94: considers voting Izzy, 97: votes Izzy, seems to expect a bangwagon

Nogrod -#18: jumps down Kath's throat about her not coming back til toMorrow, when she meant her RL morrow then random pirate jibberish and such, 21: doesn't like that Kent tried to make a deal with Legate, calls Eomer hasty, says he will vote for a "non-participater", 25: makes some lists, says again he will vote for a 0 poster, thinks Legate innocent, 28: goes on a long rant about Nienna, 30: responds to Rune's dislike, says "suspect" numerous times, 31: says he loves Eomer, 67: doesn't really like any of the votes so far, 81: comments on all the votes so far, 92: wants to vote Sally for bandwagoning on him, 95: wants people to talk, 117: votes Sally too late

Shasta - #7: shock, 32: one liner, calls Nogrod a rat, 42: votes Nogrod

Nerwen - #33: agrees with her "husband", says they shouldn't trust the sorceror (yikes), 50: seems to be suspicious of Brinn, 57: now suspicious of me as well, and all my sorcery and such,

Wilwa - #20: talk about random stuff and how Day 1 is so hard, 51: try to use my most logical reasoning possible to try to find someone to randomly vote for, comes down to Legate or Eomer, coin toss for Eomer, 61: defend my reasoning

Nilp - #46: wants to elope with Sally, 47: surprise surprise, votes himself

Rune - #22: random comments, 27: doesn't like Nogrod's 25 post either, says he will probably vote for him, 41: says Nog is being aggressive, 48: likes Legate's list, 49: makes a little list, votes Izzy, 76: defends himself and a couple others, 89: defends his vote choice

Lhuna - #34: likes Eomer, calls Nogrod abrasive, Legate rubs her the wrong way, 62: thinks Nog and Eomer innocent, worried about Legate and Shasta, ok with Brinn, doesn't like Sally's reaction to Brinn, 64: votes Legate

Eomer - #5: doesn't care if we all die, 10: random, 14: random comment on something Legate said, 19: comments on Nogrod, kinda likes his approach but kinda doesn't, 26: doesn't like Noggy's post in 25, 29: calls Nogrod a zealot, says he will vote for someone who wants friends, says humbug, 45: seems to be leaning towards Nogrod, 52: doesn't think my vote was reasonable, 53: quick little list, 56: talks about votes so far, 85: agrees with Rune's vote, 101: quick comments on all the votes, 105: wants to save Nog, will vote for Izzy or Sally, 112: simply votes Izzy

Groin - nothing

Sally - #36: a little list of everyone who's spoken, pretty random comments that had already been spoken, 43: says she would vote Nogrod over Rune, 58: agrees to elop with Nilp, votes Nogrod

Eönwë - #72: sticks his head in quickly, 83: something about "ph" and "f", considering making a list, 88: seems to be suggesting that Brinn and Sally could be wraiths, 96: keeps on about the Greek letter phi (which can represent both "ph" and "f", just to clear that up), 115: also votes Izzy

Brinniel - #38: says she never has much to say on Day 1 and that this time is no different, 39: uses logic similar to mine and votes Sally

Wow, that was hard. Ok.....give me a little bit to ponder, then I'll be back with my actual oppinions. This really helped me get organised....

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I seem to recall Wilwa about ready to vote for Lhuna - she said something about Lhuna creeping into her house in the dead of night to try to feast on her young, or something like that - so imagine my surprise when Wilwa did not in fact vote for Lhuna to be executed. Of course, I'll need to go back and check the wording but that's how I remember it. It's this kind of inconsistency which really gets me. I'm leaning towards thinking she's guilty but I'll confirm my opinion later.

Or does anyone see a problem with this?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

However, I may be missing something, but the fact is, I simply cannot find the post Eomer is talking about (where Wilwa expresses suspicion of Lhuna).

Eomer, are you sure you didn't imagine it?

He's just trying to bug me.....and he's succeeding....

Alright Eomer, I re-read your posts from yesterDay, I see now that you didn't actually suspect Nogrod at anytime, my confusion was just a result of me trying to read everything and take notes in the very small frame of time that I had, so I'll give you that one. But I still don't feel too awesome about you. Therefore, I'm just gonna leave it at that. Unless you do something amazing to totally turn me around, you are my main suspect.

The wolves will probably move for even a slight suspicion of someone being the seer but otherwise there are diferent variations: no-trace-kill is a safe bet everytime, confusing kills are super if there is a situation for it, framing kills are nice but seem not to work unless in certain situations, sporty-kills pick up the non-posters and are a sub-group of safe kills while killing the loudmouths is totally different tactics having an eye to gaining the control of ideas in a quiet village, some times they need to be extra careful with the ranger and/or the hunter but normally not on the first Nights etc...

I agree with this. That is why it's so hard to interpret Night 1 kill choices, and very easy for arguments to start in regard to peoples interpretations. The possible reasons why they chose Kath probably shouldn't be discussed again until there is more info.

Anyway, just popping in and trying to stay updated. Off to lunch, will try to be back in a couple of hours.

x'posted with Nerwen

[Nerwen]

Well, then–

++Sally

for bad voting and bad vibes (see her response to Brinn and her opening post toDay).

[Nerwen]

Goodnight all.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Nienna - uneasy
Kent2010 - decent
Legate of Amon Lanc - somewhat uneasy
Nogrod - quite good
Shastanis Althreduin - slightly uneasy
wilwarin538 - not good at all
Nerwen - allright, I suppose
Nilpaurion Felagund - ok
Rune Son of Bjarne - small bit uneasy
Lhunardawen - allright, I suppose
Groin Redbeard - n/a
satansaloser2005 - uneasy
Eönwë - a bit uneasy
Brinniel - not good at all

Not especially helpful, I'm sure, but there you go.

[Kent2010]

I probably should have voted before my classes, wow this is horrible.

[wilwarin538]

Nerwen-->Sally
Rune--> Steve
Wilwa-->Eomer
Brinn-->Eomer
Eomer --> Brinn
Nienna --> Sally (2)
Nilp --> Eonwe
Legate --> Eomer (3)

I believe that's it...

[Kent2010]

How about Shasta? I have seen this not-appearing act too many times and he got away with it as a baddie before, we shouldn't keep giving out free passes while we lynch the people who are showing a willingness (maybe regretably) posting.

[Thinlómien]

Stop posting.