WW LX - Mortal Men, doomed to die

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Nerwen doesn't really love me.

Aww... there, there. I was just trying to teach you a lesson, my dearest.

Oh, yes, and–

++Rune Son of Bjarne (AKA Tivo the Sorcerer)

I never did trust that landlubber of a wizard!

EDIT: fixed quotes.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Uhm....yeah, I still believe Lhuna, mainly cause I had a very strong feeling that she was the Ranger even before she revealed.

So, I say lynch Rune. And lets say that he actually is the Ranger, which I doubt, then we lynch Lhuna tomorrow and still win.

Well, your feeling is wrong.
And yes we will win no matter what, but I would like to actually make it to the end and not give Lhuna the satisfaction of getting me killed.


I knew Brinn would not trust me, but to be frank I thought that Nerwen would belive me. . .I base that on our talk yesterday about who to lynch.

I don't know if any of you remember this, but a long time ago I sugested that we looked at who the mod might pick instead of what had been done in the game. I did that because I found it unbelivable that me, Legate and Nogrod had gotten special roles by chance. . .Would I draw atention to such a thing if I was a wraith?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Why do I bother. . .I am dead anyway. Lhuna will defenitly vote for me and so will Wilwa from the looks of it, then my destiny is sealed.

I will be expecting appology rep from everyone who votes for me today.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Night2: Lhuna (I was torn between her and Kath, but chose Lhuna because we had not played together for a long time)
Night3: Nogrod
Night4: None (It seemed clear that the wraiths would kill Nogrod and I did not want to limit my options for the next night)
Night5: Nogrod (Succes)
Night6: Nienna (Just in case)

[Nerwen]

*shrugs* Well, sorry, Rune, if you really are the Ranger... but don't you understand that revealing this late leaves the village no choice?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

*shrugs* Well, sorry, Rune, if you really are the Ranger... but don't you understand that revealing this late leaves the village no choice?

No I don't understand. . . Just because you make your claim first it does not mean that you are right.

As I said I lost my internet connection shortly after I read Lhuna's post, if I had revealed it just before deadline I would surely look like a wraith and it would take focus away from figuring out who of Eonwe and Shasta was the remaining wraith.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, if it's not you, and if you accept Lhuna and Nienna's reveals...

When you said this and I replied "I know, I know", I felt it was a complete give away. . . by only focusing on one of the last two "unknown" i felt that I had given away that I was considering a "known innocent".

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

No I don't understand. . . Just because you make your claim first it does not mean that you are right.

Hence my original comment about "currently believing her... we'll see..." I was waiting to see if there'd be a counter-reveal.

But Rune, this is what you said after Lhuna's reveal (and before your internet connection went down– at least it was a long time before you showed up again):

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

So Lhuna is our Ranger. . .it is a shame that she has revealed her self, a ranger is very nice to have arround in the closing stages.

Now, you say you were afraid to counter-claim later... well, yes, quite rightly. Not because no-one ever believes a counter-claim, but because you had already accepted her claim, and in a completely unambiguous way.

Yes, of course we're going to lynch you now.

If you turn out to be telling the truth, we'll know to lynch Lhuna tomorrow. Simple.

EDIT: punctuation and emphasis

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I don't know if any of you remember this, but a long time ago I sugested that we looked at who the mod might pick instead of what had been done in the game. I did that because I found it unbelivable that me, Legate and Nogrod had gotten special roles by chance. . .Would I draw atention to such a thing if I was a wraith?

Why not? Or, to put it another way, why draw attention to it if you're a gifted?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Why not? Or, to put it another way, why draw attention to it if you're a gifted?

Good question. I was kind of torn, because I did not want to go out and say "look at me, I am the Ranger", but catching wraiths was still top priority and I thought that I had found a way to do it. (and it was not all wrong, I guessed Sally on that basis)

Also there was a vauge hope that Nogrod would think "maybe he has a special role as well" and not vaste time on dreaming about me

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Good question. I was kind of torn, because I did not want to go out and say "look at me, I am the Ranger", but catching wraiths was still top priority and I thought that I had found a way to do it. (and it was not all wrong, I guessed Sally on that basis)

You did? When was that?

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

there was a vauge hope that Nogrod would think "maybe he has a special role as well" and not vaste time on dreaming about me

Errr... weren't you afraid the wraiths might think that too?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

indeed I accepted her claim at first, I was not sure if I was going to counter it yet.

it must have been on day 3 that I said that Sally and Brinn could be special roles.

And of course I was afraid of that, but that is always a problem with leaving hints, there is no way of telling who will pick up on it. I did however consider it most likely that Nogrod and Legate would think those thoughts and Legate's faith was sealed.

I know that it is simple and that no matter who is lynched the outcome will be the same, but I am sure that Lhuna will come out still claiming to be the ranger even though she is bound to loose. It is always more fun to stay alive to the end or go out in a magnificent way.

I cannot remember the last time I was survived a game with village victory, also it would hurt to see Lhuna's fraud getting me lynched.
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OK, lets say I had counter claimed at once, what would the village have done?
My guess is that you would have used the whole day focusing on me and Lhuna, in the end you would lynch me and then Lhuna the next day.

By playing like I did, I have enabled my self to hand you the last wraith on a silver plate, now you have the chance to end this game without further loss of innocent lives.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

++Rune

Going to collapse now. G'night. (at 7:36 AM)

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

indeed I accepted her claim at first, I was not sure if I was going to counter it yet.

Well, didn't it occur to you that the way you were accepting it would make it well-nigh impossible to counter later?

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

must have been on day 3 that I said that Sally and Brinn could be special roles.

Rune, suggesting Sally might have an unspecified role is not equivalent to picking her as a wraith! (Other people already suspected her true role for in-game reasons, so, quite frankly, I don't see why you think your approach was so useful.)

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

, lets say I had counter claimed at once, what would the village have done?
My guess is that you would have used the whole day focusing on me and Lhuna, in the end you would lynch me and then Lhuna the next day.

Maybe, maybe not. Lhuna had been under heavy suspicion... why did you assume even a reasonable claim from you would be rejected in favour of hers?

EDIT: X'd with Shasta.