WW LXI: Grimm Tales

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

The second one was Mith for phantom. Looks like she was just having a bad day and although that isn't a reasonable reason to vote someone, I'll let it pass. Or maybe she was just joking. *sigh*

Yes a bad day.... really fed up with being used as an Aunt Sally by people I thought were friends .... heigh ho

Anyway I have slept on it and will probably retract. We do need to bear in ming the Hansel and Gretel factor with this vote - I need a second opinion on this but it seems to me that someone is going to have to be 3 votes clear before it is certain they will be the lynchee?

Also I want to look at Shasta again. His reveal was so spectacularly unhelpful as an opening gambit I wonder if it is genuine. If he is not a wolf then BBW may well take a punt.... since they have nothing to lose. From the baddies perspective he is either a plain ordo with a 20% chance of being LRC or he is a gifted bluffing.

From the goodies (goody goody gum gum) perspective he has made himself vulnerable and a liability. Not quite sure that it deserves a preemptive lynch - though it is tempting. And he could be that gifted bluffing...

[A Little Green]

I'll be off for a while, I vote now just in case I don't make it back before DL. So:

++Shasta

because he seems the worst at this point. For further reasons, see my list post.


EDIT: x-ed with Inziladun

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Yes a bad day.... really fed up with being used as an Aunt Sally by people I thought were friends .... heigh ho

I hope you know I would never be that mean. I still do not understand the opposite sex (note an old sig comparing you all to cell phones...that was a disaster ). If I did, I wouldn't be struggling to hold a significant relationship that lasts longer than 18 months.

[Boromir88]

Thinking about Hansel and Gretel, since Mith has brought it up. It might be wise to hold your powers today. Use them, when we get more information and are more confident.

[Mithalwen]

I didn't mean you so much Boromir.

And I may be interpreting the instructions wrong but I don't think that Hansel and Gretel have discretion in their powers - it says every day

OK to tidy up and it may get complicated at the end:

--the phantom

but he is still persona non amata

[Boromir88]

And I may be interpreting the instructions wrong but I don't think that Hansel and Gretel have discretion in their powers - it says every day~Mith

Can we call an official mod ruling and see if wilwa can make things as clear as mud?

I actually just figured it out, if I do ever get connected with my true love, and depending upon how things go it can be the 6th longest relationship I ever had...talk about depressing.

[Nerwen]

It's betting time!

Is Shasta a wolf trying to look like a gifted trying to look like an ordo? Or a gifted trying to look like a wolf trying to look like an ordo? Or an ordo? (3-1 each way)

And what in Middle-earth is Boro up to? I could see him as a villain trying to pose as one of the lover-roles– but that's not why he got voted. (I'm in the position of feeling that I might vote him... if the previous votes hadn't been so dodgy.)

I'll go and check the Hansel and Gretel roles.

EDIT:X'd since Mithalwen.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

And what in Middle-earth is Boro up to? I could see him as a villain trying to pose as one of the lover-roles–

Well hishints are really rather boldly out there so it makes me wonder, as do many others who are throwing various hints around, mainly the phantom. This game is crazy.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Lommy

as do many others who are throwing various hints around, mainly the phantom.

If you're talking about my opening post, those hints were actually accidental. At least the two that seem to go together were. Didn't even notice until Boro said something about it. I was just making random comments, and there are so many roles that random comments are bound to be more applicable than they were ever meant to be.

Anyway, I have no time to do anything (just like I figured would happen). I've been doing all my posts between sections of work, and I actually haven't read more than half of your posts closely. But starting tonight I'll have lots and lots of time, so no biggie.

For now, I vote, and then later tonight when I'm rereading I can slap my forehead for my terrible choice.

++Lari

For no other reason than her vote, which was not only for me (*gasp*), but she said she voted for me because she figured I wouldn't die. I could say several things about such motives, but I have to leave immediately. Good night.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I think our problem is that we expect each other to smart and to agree on stuff and when our expectations are failed by us disagreeing or one of us doing something the other one thinks silly we start suspecting each other...

Yes that's true. And it probably wasn't so bad if we didn't agree so much most of the time.

Originally Posted by Lommy

I'm not quite sure if I like Mith's discussion of Shasta. It's somehow rather unsettling... like, I don't know, maybe it sounds a bit as if it was written by a baddie instead of a goodie?

The only thing I noticed about it was that it seemed to be written from a point of view that Shasta isn't a wolf. She mentioned the possibility once and then concentrated on other possibilities. I don't think it looked very suspicious in general though, and her reasoning in her next post is pretty good.

Garr I was planning to read through the thread before voting but I got distracted and there's no time anymore.

I could vote for Greenie because thus far she looks the most suspicious or Shasta, well, because of damage limitation - I don't find him especially suspicious (and no I really wasn't serious when talking about revenge voting earlier today! ) but I'd prefer Green.

[Thinlómien]

Okay, I managed to get done with reading about analysis of prose style and imperialism&WW2 so I'm back here.

I must say I like Boro a lot more now that he has started taking the game seriously. He gives me the solid good innocent-Boro vibes but I'm far from sure so I'm still watching the situation. Well it may be simply that he stopped scheming...

Originally Posted by Greenie

Second thing - although only concentrating on those two is surely dangerous, I can't ignore two players completely, either. That seems very unwise.

I didn't suggest ignoring them. I suggested ignoring Boro's vote for tp. (He even retracted it like I said he would. )

Originally Posted by Greenie

Shasta - I'm alarmed by him. His "I'm ordo"-comment seemed to me a rather wolvish thing to say.

Oh, thanks for reminding me of that comment. I may even have to retract my vote for him now because I think the comment really seemed very genuine. (Of course, he could just be a baddie ensuring his future chances if he has to insist on being an ordo again, it's the easiest role to claim in this village and there aren't too many of them.) Hmm... difficult.

Eeks Agan is giving me slightly bad vibes, probably because she's suspecting me... I think our problem is that we expect each other to smart and to agree on stuff and when our expectations are failed by us disagreeing or one of us doing something the other one thinks silly we start suspecting each other...

Originally Posted by Agan

I'm not overly fond of Greenie, somehow she seems to be aggressive and grasping at straws at the same time.

Well she seems rather jumpy and cranky to me too, but I believe it might be just the Boro+tp combination that is vexing her, so I'm going to let it pass for toDay at least...

Originally Posted by Mith

Yes a bad day.... really fed up with being used as an Aunt Sally by people I thought were friends .... heigh ho

Aww sorry. *hugs*

I'm not quite sure if I like Mith's discussion of Shasta. It's somehow rather unsettling... like, I don't know, maybe it sounds a bit as if it was written by a baddie instead of a goodie?


edit: xed with Boro

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I'm not quite sure if I like Mith's discussion of Shasta. It's somehow rather unsettling... like, I don't know, maybe it sounds a bit as if it was written by a baddie instead of a goodie?

Lommie, I understand where you are coming from and I wouldn't have been so explicit if it hadn't been for Wilwa's clarification last night. If I were a baddie I would have kept schtum more like. Remeber they have the advantage of knowing their fellows and they will know if Shasta is one of them. They aren't going to want him lynched if there is a possibility of turning them because believe me if we end up with 5 baddies 7 robber bridegroom and the possibility of multiple random deaths amongst the good then this could get to be a blood bath quickly.

BBW will surely check out Shasta if he knows he isn't a baddie. There is a 1/5 chance of him being LRC. I am just saying that if we aren't more certain about another candidate, lynching Shasta is damage limitation. Assuming he is telling the truth. Ruthless but when it comes to it we haven't got much margin for error.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

BBW will surely check out Shasta if he knows he isn't a baddie. There is a 1/5 chance of him being LRC. I am just saying that if we aren't more certain about another candidate, lynching Shasta is damage limitation. Assuming he is telling the truth. Ruthless but when it comes to it we haven't got much margin for error.

Yes, that's good reasoning (though pretty cold-blooded).

EDIT:X'd since Mith at #165.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Yes, that's good reasoning (though pretty cold-blooded).

Yes I did say it was ruthless but I don't like the odds for the goodies on this game. Ideally we would get a wolf but with day ones being as they are... there are worse choices. Again I feel it would be clumsy for a gifted to say I am an ordo don't bother with me. And we know Shasta is a canny gifted...
Otherwise we take a chance on Lari or Nienna for their flip votes (pot kettle ).