WW LXI: Grimm Tales

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

What was the point in pointing that out then? Simply saying "Mith is giving out Seer-hints" is hardly helpful to the village regardless of whether you believe her.

Er, what are you talking about it? I was speaking with Aganzir about why I didn't save Mith, and now you're jumping in and saying I'm not helpful. It's perfectly helpful because I'm explaining my vote and suspicions.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Anyway, I'm going to bed now. I'll be back to help lynch Shasta in the morning.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

My point is, Eomer, that I can't see why an innocent would bring into the open any Seer-hints he saw. Sorry for not clarifying.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

My point is, Eomer, that I can't see why an innocent would bring into the open any Seer-hints he saw. Sorry for not clarifying.

I agree with you here, Shasta. Why would an innocent want to bring the identity of the Seer to the attention of the village and consequently the wolves as well? On the other hand, why would a wolf bother when it could just PM its fellows that Night? Pointing out possible innocent gifteds is cobbler behavior, and it's what made me suspicious of Boro a couple of days ago (I was wrong about him, of course).

[the phantom]

Eomer- I don't think you ever answered the question I asked at the beginning of the day. Are you the RB?

Also, if you get the chance, Green, could you explain your Mith vote to me? I have written down that you said you didn't like any of the available candidates (you named Mith, Boro, and Eomer) but then you voted for Mith even though Izzy was available as an option, and you had not listed her as a bad lynch choice, where as you had mentioned Mith.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Gwath: I think Mira's just being lazy. She's gotta make a case against somebody, and it's always easy to make a case against me: I'm me; plus I've been busy, so I haven't posted so much that analyzing me is time consuming. She's all busy and needs a scapegoat, methinks.

That being said, if people want to not vote for me for whatever reason, I won't beg them please, oh pretty please, lynch me, lynch me.

And that being said, why should we be lynching Gaurcrist then (his words, not mine). I think I missed something with some interaction or another...

And does lynching constitute meanness? Or does he get a free ride regardless of contribution just because the phantom can be overbearing?

This time I swear I'll be up before deadline (I'm taking Lari's shift, so I'm guaranteed to be up in time to read, analyze, and vote).

But until then... I just got home (caught up, posting now) and need sleep so that I can be the Spectacular Room-mate of Awesomeness and go get Lari from an airport two hours away (you know, after working a six hour shift for her). Oooh boy does that girl owe me.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

That being said, if people want to not vote for me for whatever reason, I won't beg them please, oh pretty please, lynch me, lynch me.

So do you or don't you want to be lynched now?

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

And that being said, why should we be lynching Gaurcrist then (his words, not mine). I think I missed something with some interaction or another...

Gaurcrist's response to a comment by Nerwen directed at him in # 400 was

Lynch me then.

, which I thought was actually pretty funny.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eomer

When I say "Why would it matter if we killed Mith rather than any other innocent", I refer not to Izzy or any particular villager.

Not twisting - paraphrasing.
It sort of looked like you slipped Izzy is innocent or something. And no, I didn't see you were talking about the beginning of the day. If there was something that indicated so, point it out, please.

Originally Posted by Zil

I don't recall her showing up again that Day. That, coupled with her unobtrusivness made me suspicious.

Usually if people don't show up, it's for real life reasons. And well in my opinion Kath is not as much of a background lurker than some people who might have more posts than her (say, Mira & Gwath).
Yes you did give your reasons there, but they were more like describing what Kath's been doing and raising a single single thing that looked weird to you.
And as for keeping her in mind, that comment looked pretty opportunistic. Like, "I'll keep her in mind and start suspecting her again if someone else does, too, but if not well then I just forget about her!"
If Eomer is evil Zil might be worth a closer look.

Originally Posted by Shasta

Agan, this is the second time you've said this and I'm no less confused than the first time. Since when is flip-flopping an innocent tell? Especially since I know I've seen you make cases on Lommy based on "flip-flopping".

Well not flip-flopping itself but the way she did it. If she's a wolf, I would imagine it's more useful for her to continue pursuing you and Cab.
And you know, my cases against Lommy are a matter of their own, in those I use her every single word against her.

I agree with Gwath about Mira's case. She basically went through what Fea has said done, reached no conclusion and said she's still suspicious of Fea.

I must think about my vote...

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Usually if people don't show up, it's for real life reasons. And well in my opinion Kath is not as much of a background lurker than some people who might have more posts than her (say, Mira & Gwath).

As yet I do not have past histories of players to rely on and am pretty much learning as I go.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yes you did give your reasons there, but they were more like describing what Kath's been doing and raising a single single thing that looked weird to you.
And as for keeping her in mind, that comment looked pretty opportunistic. Like, "I'll keep her in mind and start suspecting her again if someone else does, too, but if not well then I just forget about her!"
If Eomer is evil Zil might be worth a closer look.

I thought my reasoning no flimsier than that used by others when people have actually been lynched. To each his (or her) own, I suppose.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Not twisting - paraphrasing.
It sort of looked like you slipped Izzy is innocent or something. And no, I didn't see you were talking about the beginning of the day. If there was something that indicated so, point it out, please.

Well, there was nothing to indicate it; you're making assumptions about my meaning, and then asking me to prove myself. If I don't answer this then I look more suspicious to you; now that I am answering it, I'm coming across as defensive to everyone else (and you too, probably). But oh well, I wouldn't have it any other way.

I have said nothing, nothing, to do with Izzy. I was speaking about Mithalwen only. I asked "Why would it matter if we killed Mith over any other innocent?" - this means: What made Mithalwen special?

You skipped over the whole point of the sentence and saw meaning in the superfluous words at the end: you have Izzy on the brain, I think, even if some of us don't.

And that does it: now I'm going to have to judge Izzy's case. Was it last game I helped get her lynched? Let's see what happens now. She's been *cliche alert* flying under my radar *end cliche* so far.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Eomer- I don't think you ever answered the question I asked at the beginning of the day. Are you the RB?

Right-back? Nay, I was usually left-back in the school fitba team.

Oh, you mean a role in this game. Robber Bridegroom? Er, no. Sorry. Why are you asking? You think it'll be that easy?

Hey Kath, are you the RB?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Now, Shasta and Gwath: just... hold your horses, eh? You're giving me a row about not keeping my Seer-hints to myself?

Did you see the way Mithalwen was acting? And do you not suspect the wolves would be asking each other, perhaps, "Yo, what's up with Mith?" (had she not been lynched, of course.)

Normally we shouldn't be discussing who the Seer is but in a case like yesterday's, when one of the lynch-candidates is clearly screaming "I have a secret!" why try to cover up the elephant in the room?

[Isabellkya]

Again.
Why didn't you vote for someone whom you found suspicious Shasta?

Unless I am mistaken, your post #292 was about those who you found to be possible baddies. At the time of your vote, the only one whom was on your list and on the block was Fea.

None of the others on the block, were on your list. (pointing out the obvious from the previous sentence.)

Keeping your vote amongst those already on the block, is well and good - if you actually suspect them. But voting for someone whom you haven't posted thoughts about - speaks to the case that you are just jumping on a wagon, and there for up to no good.

At this point. I think it highly likely that either you are a sloppy baddie, or the Cobbler. Though there is a little chance that you are an Ordo, who is not much paying attention.


X'd with Shasta and Mira.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Izzy, I already stated that my reason for not voting Fea was because she was having RL issues. My vote for Mith was based on my having better reasons to not vote for Boro, Eomer, and Fea than I had reasons not to vote Mith.

[Isabellkya]

Uh huh.
I smell something, and it is neither pleasant nor appropriate to say it specifically.