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Regal Dwarven Shade
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold
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Just to gain some perspective, the numbers I am proposing could hardly be considered "large" in an absolute sense. They certainly are not large in comparison to the forces I'm proposing to array against them. They are only large in comparison to the paltry handfuls others seem willing to assign them. Handfuls which to me seem too extreme given the nature of the strategic and tactical situations based upon the things Tolkien did tell us about the war in the North. Quote:
And it depends on which battle you are referring to for King Brand to be a strategic genius. If you mean the battle out in the plains where he was driven into Dale...the land out there seems flat and without choke points. If he'd fought out there outnumbered by more than 2:1 he wouldn't have made it back to Dale at all, he would have been swallowed whole. If you mean the three day Battle of Dale itself, we are told that it was fought "around the mountain's feet" and I really rather doubt Brand was calling the shots at that one. Quote:
But lets assume that is true. It is certainly true that Sauron's orcs didn't put up much of a fight once they were flanked by Aragorn. If I recall correctly it was the Easterlings and Haradrim who were mainly described as putting up most of the fight in the Pelennor fields. However, if you take the orcs out of the equation as being a routing rabble (which does seem plausible)...you are suddenly left with Sauronic human forces that certainly don't outnumber the repeatedly reinforced forces of the Free Peoples nearly as much as had at the start. They may not have been much more numerous at all, probably not to the point of even 2:1 at that point. Given the superior (and greatly buoyed by two improbable saves) morale and the superior weapons of the Gondorians and Rohirrim, its hardly surprising they won the battle. Even so the battle was described as fierce and many Gondorians and Rohirrim were killed in it.
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