WWLXII: Dead Men Do Tell Tales

[Eönwë]

Arr! T'seems it'll be jus' me n' slasher doin t' powder now!
Na' only 'tat but she says 'tat be t' spy. Now what say ye! D'ye think she could be? If she isn't 'ten I dun' thin' they'd a-be revealin' so early, so I don' thin' there'll be a challenge, which means we'll just ha'e to ma'e shure we don' trust 'er too much.

Either th' aggressors be a lucky crew, or they be a sharp lot, and if 'tey be t' second, 'ten we have little 'hope.


An' thar be no rum. What sh'd we do!


'Tis a bad start t' be sure.

[Eönwë]

I been a-readin' tis thread, but I be needin' t'go soon.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Na' only 'tat but she says 'tat be t' spy. Now what say ye! D'ye think she could be? If she isn't 'ten I dun' thin' they'd a-be revealin' so early, so I don' thin' there'll be a challenge, which means we'll just ha'e to ma'e shure we don' trust 'er too much.

Trust this matey, she's no mutineer. She might be a co-conspirator - and that's a real and existing chance. But if she's not one of those, then why not reveal it? In that case she has nothing to loose or gain from remining in hiding.

But if she'd be a cursed co-conspie' the real spy knows it now - and should remain silent about it for then it surely is just Greenie trying to fish her/him to the fore and to reveal her/himself.

At the moment I don't think it matters much what we think or believe about her alignment, but it may become an issue later...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

At the moment I don't think it matters much what we think or believe about her alignment, but it may become an issue later...

Just to give my two cents on it.

Meself trusts that old drunkard more than any of you cretins onboard for the fact that she ain't no mutineer and thence doesn't fool us with knowledge of what she's doing. She maybe a co-conspie, but even then she can give us either good or bad advice as she doesn't know more than we do. So a pinch of salt taken with whatever she says, but a little less than I take with anything you other sea-faring rascals say.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Needs to be remembering what that drunkard said yesterDay before making any further remarks on a dead sailor - and those maggots who laid waste our rum! For there is no worse crime than condemning decent pirates to forced soberness!

The lass said little enow, an' it were mostly of a jokin' natur'.

#10. (Replyin' to th' infected quartermaster.)

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Aye! What d'ye want me t' say? Th' ones that be guilty o' th' murder o' me cap'n oughta walk th' plank 'n' get acquainted with th' sharks!

#37. (The second part be a reply to the misshapen gunner who were axin' about th' sperrits– the ghosts, I mean, no' the rum.)

Originally Posted by A Little Green

*burp*

Seriously, though, we need t' get serious wi' this if we want t' find th' scum that killed th' cap'n. Th' problem wi' th' likes o' me be that I don't know where t' start th' serious talk. Th' sole thing that comes to me mind is that I don't be likin' th' amount of sailors hidin' in their bunks. Whar be Sally? Izzy? Wilwa? Or me powder monkey -comrade Gwathy?

(Ye love th' word 'arr', don't ye?) Dunno if thar be much we can do about those. 'Tis a bit disturbin' that we don't be knowin' whether or not we made th' righ' person walk th' plank -'n' we won't be knowin' how many mutineers we still have amongst us either.

#42. (To quartermaster again.)

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Me, o' course. Ye be infected, ye know. No un wants t' kiss an infected un.

#60. (To Cowerin' Gwath Slasher– he were a-threatenin' of her fer callin' him a powder-monkey, which he be, the lubber!)

Originally Posted by A Little Green

D'ye reckon I be frightened? I be no dog, I be th' famous Lil' Green the Staggerin' Drunk, an' ye deserve t' be called Gwathy just fer callin' me dog!

I be uneasy 'bout that ol' Shark Tooth - he seems to be fishin' fer an easy lynch of a potentially dangerous sailor. I be goin' to me bunk soon, an' will snore o'er th' decision time. I ain't sure o' who t' vote, but it'll probably be fer ol' Shasty fer th' thingy I just mentioned - unless there'll be a better un emergin' in a minute.

#61.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Crap - I'd have hoped t' find a few opinions afore handin' o'er me vote, but no can do. I be goin' t' sleep away me drunkenness now. G'night! *hiccups*

++ Shark Tooth Shasty

That be all.

EDIT:fixed bolding.

[Inziladun]

Why'd ye mutinous dogs ha' t' do awy w' t' Green One by usin' up th' rum? No blade or rope be gud enough?
Anyway, I be agreein' tha' Staggerin' Green be surely no conspirator. Claimin' t' be th' Spy, though.....if it'd ben' me I'd a waited a bit afore I said that. Cud' a ben' useful if one o' th' bad 'uns made a false claim.
Some readin' be in order t'day. Mayhap I'll make some sense o' this sorry business.

[Macalaure]

Arrr! The spy be gone? Not to mention the rum? Arrr, I say, Arrrr!

Me sees no reason not to believe the Little Green at this point. She could be a conspiraterr putting herrself into the best position to discredit the real spy (or maybe even flush him out), but most likely, we're having a problem now.

Originally Posted by ALG

I was spyin' ye, as it happens, and ye be innocent or a co-conspirator, dunno which.

Ye can't distinguish the two in yer dreams? Arrr, I say. Still no def'nit' knowledge to be had. Well, at least somethin'...


Arrright, I shall have a look at yesterDay's voting later, and a serrrious look at th' Nog-fella. The rat he be smellin' might hide in his own rruddy beard.

[Mithalwen]

WellI be back but I see ye all decided to talk once I was away so I have much to catch up on.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Me sees no reason not to believe the Little Green at this point. She could be a conspiraterr putting herrself into the best position to discredit the real spy (or maybe even flush him out), but most likely, we're having a problem now.

If she be co-conspirator, belike she reckons I'm one o' them mutinous dogs– but why?

Originally Posted by Macalaure

, I shall have a look at yesterDay's voting later, and a serrrious look at th' Nog-fella. The rat he be smellin' might hide in his own rruddy beard.

Aye, the votin' yesterDay be foul. But ye be on th' wrong tack wi' Gunner Nogrod, I reckon. 'Tis my belief 'twas honest doubt he were expressin' when he were a-talkin' 'bout that there "confession" o' yourn.

EDIT: X'd wi' Short Ruth.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Me sees no reason not to believe the Little Green at this point. She could be a conspiraterr putting herrself into the best position to discredit the real spy (or maybe even flush him out), but most likely, we're having a problem now.

Well, as this pirate sees it, unless another of the crew claims to be the spy, I don't think it be makin' much of a matter whether LG is a spy or a co-conspirator - either way, she knows no more 'n we do. She's nothin' more 'n another voice.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

#60. (To Cowerin' Gwath Slasher– he were a-threatenin' of her fer callin' him a powder-monkey, which he be, the lubber!)

'Twas fer callin' 'im Gwathy I believe. Sez so in t'quote ye give.


Jus' sayin'...

Originally Posted by Rikae

What worries me now, tho', are th' reactions t' th' drunk - p'ticklarly Eonwe n' Inziladun's, because o' t' way they latch onto th' idea o' a co-conspirator (ef I be readin' them right) revealin' later

What that be meanin'? I sed was 'tat if she be not th' real spy then th' real spy probly not be revealin' so early, so we'll 'ave t' make sho' tha' we don' trust Greenie too much. We'll may 'ave t' accept 'er as th' spy (if there be no counter-claims), but what i'm sayin' is not to place all yer trust in 'er, as she may be a-lyin'.

An' latch on? I was th' first 'un to say th't she may not be th' spy.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

We know Greenie's be 'acked by the mutineers, which mean she most likely be good, an' even if she be a co-conspier'ator, it would be no use in lynchin' her at 'tis point when no one else has said they be the spy. I say we trus' her, which means fer now I also trust Nerwen...I s'pose 'tis possible she be a co-conspie, but thar be no reason to doubt Greenie, at 'tis point, an' thus Nerwen too is not a mutineer. Nerwen's status could change, dependin' on Greenie's role, an' other behaviors, but fer now...if ye trus' Greenie, I be trustin' Nerwen. Thar be no sense in lynchin' either o' them today.

How does tha' work? Greenie sed she ha' no dream. So that be a-helpin' Nerwen's case?

[Rikae]

Ok, Eon, I see ye were sayin' th' opposite o' what I thought. But now I have a question -

Originally Posted by Eonwe

I sed was 'tat if she be not th' real spy then th' real spy probly not be revealin' so early, so we'll 'ave t' make sho' tha' we don' trust Greenie too much.

Why wouldn't th' real spy reveal right away? She'd be dead, so what would she have t' lose, savvy?

[Rikae]

Kath, go back an' look at what I say in me vote post. I think what Shasta did was worse than "advocating a double lynch". I ne'er said he did, so whose words 'r bein' a-twisted now, eh?

Eonwe, Green did claim that she dreamed o' Nerwen an' found her not an aggressor.

EDIT: X'd w' Wilwa n' Shasta

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Why wouldn't th' real spy reveal right away? She'd be dead, so what would she have t' lose, savvy?

Because they'd want time to get more dreams.

Originally Posted by Rikae

KathEonwe, Green did claim that she dreamed o' Nerwen an' found her not an aggressor.

Ok yes. I'm sorry about that. I misread her posts.

Originally Posted by Kath

Eonwe - I'm slightly confused. Seems to say that if Greenie is not the spy then the real one won't reveal so we should take what Greenie says with a pinch of salt ... but then says the wolves were either very lucky or good. Just sort of seems to go against his own point.

The second part is only applicable if she really was the spy.

edit: fixed first quote

[Eönwë]

Reading through the thread...

Originally Posted by Nogrod

At the moment I don't think it matters much what we think or believe about her alignment, but it may become an issue later...

Tis be true... thar may be a possiblity that she be one of 'em co-conspirators, but she still only be knowin' as much as we do.

edit: Ah! 'Twas sed by Noggie jus' after al'redy

[Isabellkya]

I think there is a higher likelihood of being able to trust the ones whom are killed during the Night. As I can't see the baddies killing themselves. I could see some suggesting the idea, however whether or not it was followed through with.. not quite. There would be more loss than gain from it.

Zil is reminding me of a previous game.

It seems to me that usually the easier lynch candidates end up innocents.

I wouldn't think of Nog going for the easier choice.
I think some of the reasons, if not most that people gave for their vote were complete hogwash.

Sally.
In #99 you say..

I be gettin' a bit of funny feelings from that there Shasta too, but I don't think it be a hunch worth following with a lynch.

Yet in #104 you vote for him.
Hopping on a Wagon of Contradictory much?

Mac. Were you trying to help Nog get wagoned, then retracted when it looked possible. So your hands would be relatively clean. But hopped right back on when it didn't look like others would place their votes that way?

What is with all of the jumping on Shasta? I'm inclined to either think A) He is a baddie B) Jumpers are Baddies or C) ?

If I were jumping on him, I'd say he is innocent. I'm not. Then again, he is Shasta.

Of Nerwen and Nog, you both should know better.

Your vote of Zil looks like someone trying to throw another under a moving ship, based solely on previous pack-mateship, Nerwen. Zil has played.. one previous game before? You could quite likely be a known innocent, if Greenie is telling the truth. I suggest you vote with much more substantial reasons, as some may or may not follow you based on your possible knownshipness. Of course, you could not be an innocent at all.

I think the Captain Obvious thing was from Gwath?

X'd since #184.