John Boorman's Lord of the Rings

[Mithalwen]

Sadly John Boorman has passed beyond the sundering sea...

[TheLostPilgrim]

Thought I'd bring this thread up, given the Gandalf/Galadriel scene in The Hobbit trailer....

[TheLostPilgrim]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Sadly John Boorman has passed beyond the sundering sea...

He's still alive.

[Elmo]

Originally Posted by TheLostPilgrim

He's still alive.

He moved to Ireland though.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Elmo

He moved to Ireland though.

Which from my point of view counts as "beyond the sundering sea".

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Which from my point of view counts as "beyond the sundering sea".

So that would make Liverpool the Grey Havens?

Which it kind of was for a time in the mid 1800s...

Originally Posted by Nerwen

This thread rather perplexes me, I must say. I don't want to pick fights with anyone who has posted here– many of them are people whose opinion I value, in fact– but I can't feeling there is quite a double standard at work, in some cases. I mean, some of the same people who are furious at PJ's cavalier attitude to the source material are here praising John Boorman precisely for having *no* respect for it whatever. Just a bit of a contradiction there, surely?

I still think what I used to think on this - it would have been fun, but only once an attempt at a serious adaptation was out of the way (because like it or not, that's what Jackson attempted). And I think it might have been fun because I really love Excalibur, despite that taking liberties left, right and centre and occasionally being extremely silly and pompous.

In a small voice and without use of a wooden spoon...can I say that Ken Russell might have made an amusing and silly version too?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

So that would make Liverpool the Grey Havens?

Well, it is the place from whence the Four Wizards came.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, it is the place from whence the Four Wizards came.

And also, the Blue Wizards

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by TheLostPilgrim

He's still alive.

Ooops sorry I had read an interview with his son Charley and thought he had said something about his father's death..... fail..

[FailBeast]

As very strange as about 90% of that sounds, what with knocking the knowledge into Gimli and all, this one part:

"He mentioned another change. "There's a duel between the magicians, Gandalf and Saruman. I was inspired by an African idea of how magicians duel with words, which I had read about. It was a way of one entrapping the other as a duel of words rather than special effects flashes, shaking staffs, and all that. I tried to keep away from that a lot, and Boorman did too. [Reads from script]:
GANDALF: Saruman, I am the snake about to strike!
SARUMAN: I am the staff that crushes the snake!
GANDALF: I am the fire that burns the staff to ashes!
SARUMAN: I am the cloudburst that quenches the fire!
GANDALF: I am the well that traps the waters!"

"

...sounds actually like it could be really awesome. It could also, of course, be poorly done, but it sounds both creative and laden with potential for a pretty epic wizard fight. I'm trying to imagine how you could show it though... Despite their distaste for special effects, I think if such a scene were to be done without any effects at all, it'd just look like two guys ranting at each other. But perhaps with subtle effects, like changes in the lighting or moving air, you could convey they idea that there was more to this exchange that just words... Well, I don't suppose it matters, since nobody'll be shooting the scene. But I think that bit could've been good.

Perhaps, as half-nuts as the rest of it seems, it may, too, come down to the handling. Although, it does seem like it'd be hard to pull off... It would be interesting to see a whole script.

Sorry to interrupt discussion of the Blue Wizards...