TIG: LXV - Our fate lies with...them?

[Brinniel]

I really must go now; I meant to leave hours ago.

But fine. Since I know you all will give me a bunch of crap if I vote Fea, I won't. So my vote will be random instead.

++morm

There. Now I don't want to hear any crap about it since it seems you all were asking I vote for someone random instead of a soon-to-be-dead player. And so I have. And at least it's better than voting Hakon who I think is an easy lynch for Day One.

I might be back and able to change my vote, but don't count on it.

[Pitchwife]

Answering my own question from last post: because a No-voter will have to give reasons next Day, whereas a Fea-voter can always say xe followed phantom's suggestion. OK.

Rikae - I never said, nor meant to imply, that you're the bear (Hakon said that). You could be (not accusing you, just mentioning the possibility) a wolf who doesn't want the bear to turn on the wolves. You could be an innocent who simply happens to disagree with phantom. Most probably the latter.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Rikae - I never said, nor meant to imply, that you're the bear (Hakon said that).

Yes, I don't know why I thought that was you.

[Hakon]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Yes, I don't know why I thought that was you.

His post was right above one of yours and mine was right under it. You might have seen it the other way around at a glance.

[Lariren Shadow]

A list...that pretty much says nothing much as some people haven't been talking at all.

Rosemancer (alona): Has posted very little, and seems to be devoid of substence.

Lady Tum (autume): Hasn’t said much at all.

Butterfingers (Brinn): Says her vote toDay will be useless because she can’t be around. And then does vote that way.

Felis Grey (Durelin): Have heard nothing from her at all.

Docter Girlfriend (Fea): Is doomed. Nothing more to say.

Celibateman (Form): Posted, voted for Mira, is annoyed with us, hates Day 1. I have no idea about him at all. I would like to see more but he also said he isn’t feeling well so I will not hold not posting against him.

Leaf man (Hakon): Comes up with ideas and people jump down his throat. But some of the ideas are cheating as we have been told. Seems like a Day 1 lynch canidate because of this.

Docter Electron (Zil): I have no idea.

Prin-Guin (Lommy): We have been told that she is not going to be posting much for the first few days. So I have no idea what to think of her.

The Incredible Sulk (Mac): Is slightly tripping my radar but not much else. I can’t pinpoint what it is but he just seems to be just giving me bad feelings.

Narcolepsy girl (Mira): Has to be a big girl. I don’t think voting her is a good option either.

Athletes Foot Man (Morm): Seems to be…I actually have no idea. His posts seem logical but they are also short.

The Reverser (Nerwen): Was an early option for a lynch because of the reverse typing. Other than that, nothing much else.

Laughing Lass (Nessa): No idea at all.

Word Cloud Girl (Nienna): Has to be a big girl and is in class as well. I have no idea but jumped on the whole voting for Fea thing really quickly. I’m not sure about lynching her Day 1 again, but, well, that didn’t seem right with me.

Studebaker Hawk (Pitchwife): I have no idea whatsoever.

Doktor Von und Zum Quatsch (Rikae): Wants more talk. She seems innocent enough to me. Her ideas seem sound as well.

Movie quotes girl (Sally): Claims to be innocent. And keeps her Hakon votes. I’m leaning towards believing her if only because she is not looking like wolf!Sally.

Mr. E. (Shasta): Is in the shadows. I’ve got nothing.

Candor Man (the phantom): Supposedly speaking the truth. Gave some good ideas but I want to keep an eye on him. He seems at first glance to be helpful but closer he could be rather suspicious.

Bah I'm beginning to agree with this hating of Day 1.

[Rikae]

A question for everyone: how do you feel about the phantom (in general, not in this game specifically). Do you tend to trust him?

Does anyone have strong feelings about Hakon, alona, Nessa or autume (the newer players, I think)?

Also, if you fear me, please step forward - I'd enjoy the ego boost.

EDIT: Bolding names and also want to clarify - strong feelings about the newbies in general, rather than in this game.

[Lariren Shadow]

I have some feelings about them.

Alona: Is trying hard. She is working things out and likes the analization. She is just busy at the moment. She tends to have well thought out ideas.

Hakon: Well...he is trying to work things out. He seems to be getting on people's nerves and I can see why.

Nessa: Was a very sneaky wolf in my game. But I don't think she is again. However, she was also as silent then too.

Tum: I think is busy. Though I'm not sure.

Also I have been asked to point out that Mira is also excused from not participating.

[Rikae]

There's something about Pitchwife... I read his posts and find myself nodding my head, going "at least someone is making some sense"... but in my past experience, posts like that usually came from wolves. Perhaps it's because of the wolfish tendency to be non-controversial and so on...

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Rikae

A question for everyone: how do you feel about the phantom (in general, not in this game specifically). Do you tend to trust him?

Well I think he's lucid. I like his taste in sports, if not teams. He seems to look nice when dressed up which would be most often I would guess.

No more seriously I feel I read him fairly well overall. Part of this comes from time and number of games spent with him some of it comes from knowing him and understanding who he is. I have never actually met tummy in rl though.

[Pitchwife]

Opinions continued and in part updated (in alphabetical order):
Brinn - most of what she's said so far sounds good.
Inzil - same (good point about the body count).
morm - apart from his vote for Hakon, on which I've commented above, he gives sound advice and good arguments.
Rikae - better after end of bear discussion.
the phantom - makes controversial suggestions and backs them up, I like that. I can understand why some people would find his ideas suspicious, but at least he's been starting discussions and given us something to chew - which, I suspect, was his purpose making those suggestions in the first place.
To be continued.

[Pitchwife]

List continued (and, I think, complete now).
alona - nothing conclusive beyond her vote, which looks a little bit like hiding behind morm's back.
autume - even less to go on.
Form - nothing to add to what Lari said.
Lari - thanks for the list and feelings.
Mira - absent since the morning hours.
Nessa - nothing conclusive, but made some effort to contribute to discussion early on.
Nienna - has been very quiet but is cool with Fea-voting. Anything else?
sally - looked good to me until her locked third vote for an easy target. But would she do something as obvious if she were a wolf? Or would she exactly because people would think she wouldn't? I don't know her enough to answer that.
Shasta - needs to come back!

Rikae - would you rather I'd stop making sense, throw out some wild suspicions and start voting for people I find annoying? Can't do the latter, as none of you has yet annoyed me enough. As for suspicions, I've voiced some - if you want it spelled out again: morm, alona, Sally (not necessarily in this order of importance). Or should I suggest something outrageous, like not lynching the bear if we catch xem?
You've got a point, however - if I were a wolf, I might play exactly like I'm playing now, or at least try to. Or maybe not - I've never been one yet (including this game, I mean!), so I don't know.

(x-ed with phantom and autume)

[Pitchwife]

Answering Rikae's questions -
the phantom: honestly, I was rather scared of playing with him in my second game ever, as I reckoned he'd be completely inscrutable (which he is). Surprisingly, I find myself rather inclined to go with it and and hope for the best, as he puts it himself. If he's a wolf, he's much too cunning for me, so I might as well take him at face value, at least until he starts contradicting himself or makes a vote I find suspicious.
Hakon: the strongest feeling I've ever had about him was for persistently hurting my pet Petty-dwarf in Hurt and Heal, and that wasn't really strong.
alona and autume: No strong feelings on either.
Nessa: nothing strong, except I think she may be the most cunning of the newbies.
And Rikae, sorry, but I don't fear you. Should I?

[Rikae]

Well, if we go with the theory that at least some wolves are likely to be chosen from among those no one mentioned, our newbies should need scrutiny.
If phantom is, as I thought, widely feared and distrusted - well, I'm not sure what to conclude from it at this point. He attracts so much attention I'm generally tempted to leave him to the seer, but then, we may be kicking ourselves later for keeping him around if he's evil, and if it's true he's never been lynched that's good reason to lynch him in itself. Shame morm locked in his vote.

[Hakon]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Answering Rikae's questions -
the phantom: honestly, I was rather scared of playing with him in my second game ever, as I reckoned he'd be completely inscrutable (which he is). Surprisingly, I find myself rather inclined to go with it and and hope for the best, as he puts it himself. If he's a wolf, he's much too cunning for me, so I might as well take him at face value, at least until he starts contradicting himself or makes a vote I find suspicious.
Hakon: the strongest feeling I've ever had about him was for persistently hurting my pet Petty-dwarf in Hurt and Heal, and that wasn't really strong.
alona and autume: No strong feelings on either.
Nessa: nothing strong, except I think she may be the most cunning of the newbies.
And Rikae, sorry, but I don't fear you. Should I?

Out of all us newbies Nessa and Autume have played more games then the rest of us. Why do you think Nessa is the most cunning? Is it cause she was the wolf last game?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

But fine. Since I know you all will give me a bunch of crap if I vote Fea, I won't. So my vote will be random instead.


There. Now I don't want to hear any crap about it since it seems you all were asking I vote for someone random instead of a soon-to-be-dead player. And so I have. And at least it's better than voting Hakon who I think is an easy lynch for Day

Wow Brinn, this seems very odd. Again you've done something odd to me. It has nothing to do with the vote for me. I couldn't care less about that but what is strange is the willingness to do what you perceive the crowd to want. There are still plenty that are okay with the Fea lynch plan. When somebody is too worried about looking good and not doing what they feel is best it worries me.

ps I am only to this point on reading.