TIG: LXV - Our fate lies with...them?

[Mirandir]

Day 1

#129
Likes what phantom said about gifteds leaving clues
Wants to read through old games

#317
Likes what sallys said about voting Fea
Hakon is suspiciou

#338
Doesn't know whether to trust phantom or not
Little suspicious of Rikae

#353
Agrees with Rikae that phantom is suspicious

#357
Votes Hakon (after morm, Alona, and sally already had)

#482
Retracts Hakon, votes Pitchwife (after Shasta, Rikae, Nienna, and Hakon)
"Had a quick chance to go through the posts and at this point Pitchwife looks more suspicous than Hakon. I'll expand on this on Day 2. Just wanted to get this in."

Day 2

#494
Justifies vote by citing Rikae, Shasta, Inzil, and Shasta again as why Hakon didn't look suspicious enough to vote for.

#562
Doesn't see Rikae as a wolf or bear, doesn't see why people think she's suspicious
Wonders why phantom voted last minute when he proposed the artificial deadline in the first place

#563
Still doesn't know what to think of phantom

#613
Tells Nienna she already explained yesterday's vote

#619
"I learned a valuable lesson. I'll remember to leave explanations for the person I'm voting. I also will be more careful with my votes. I never intended to kill the Seer. It's just the way it happened."

#624
Echoes Alona's sentiment about not being very good at figuring out roles

#629
List! Doesn't think anyone is particularly suspicious.
Looks at Hakon vs. Pitchwife voters, only person who stands out is Shasta, but not particularly suspicous

#631
Wants to hear from morm and Mira

#637
Defends reason for making list, says she and Alona are buddy-buddy because they're both new

#643
Elaborates on why doesn't think Mac, Alona, sally, and Nienna are innocent

#664
Agrees with Mac about Inzil and wants to know why Inzil voted morm

#674
Debates voting Inzil

#677
Votes Inzil
"1. I've had nothing against Rikae up to this point. I don't really like the way he went after Rikae or Mac earlier toDay. Nothing wrong in doing that. To me it just didn't look right.

2. He throws out some suspicions and doesn't back them up.

3. He asks a question of morm when morm isn't around to answer. Then goes ahead and votes for morm without explaining why.

4. After yesterday I'd rather get this vote in now and not be the deciding factor in killing a Gifted. "

Day 3

#779
Vote count and reasons

#800
Corrects sallys that she should be asking Lommy about retracted votes, not her

#814
Says needs to take a look at sally
Lommy's vote is suspicious

#831
"So I was wrong about Sally not voting for Inzil earlier. Makes more sense as to why people suspect her as well."

#834
Wants to look at morm

#841
Explains Inzil vote to Mac

#842
Defends agreeing with everyone
Doesn't know why Lommy switched her vote
Rikae doesn't seem like a baddie
morm raised flags
Wants to analyze Nessa, Nerwen, and Mac

#846
Responds to morm's suspicions of her
"I was just telling you why I did what I did. Not really sure what I did to make me your prime suspect."

#855
Enters debate with morm about meaning of "near top" of suspicion list

#860
Clarifies nickname mistake she made that led to vote confusion

#895
Feels like Alona and sally are innocent
What sally said about morm makes her suspect him more
Rikae seems innocent still

#949
Wants to keep an eye on Shasta and Mac

#954
"I'll answer for you and make it easier for everyone else. I don't think I have disagreed with you yet. I haven't seen anything to disagree with you on at this point." (to sally)

#970
Analyzes morm, concludes is still suspicious

#1001
Links to sally's 880 post

#1006
Says linking was because sally "had some items in there regarding morm in reply to what Brinn had done."

#1009
Compares Form to Shasta

#1013
Doesn't have enough to go on to vote Shasta

#1024
Votes morm

#1040
Answers morm's question about who Rikae will/has voted for

#1064
Joke-votes for sally

#1079
Likes sally's avatar

Day 4

#1121
"It is a sad day for us villagers. Shasta did a great deed by saving someone in the village. I just wish that he weren't dead."

#1212
Having second thoughts about Lommy
Still thinks morm is suspicious

#1217
Using what Form and Lommy said to further suspicion of morm

#1232
"First: That's a good point about morm. I will have to take that into consideration.

Second: Nessa is raising some flags. I'm not comfortable with her No Vote yesterday. She has been awfully quiet throughout the game. However that may mean nothing.

Third: I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling bad vibes coming from Lommy." (to Rikae)

#1236
Agrees with Rikae that Mira, Nienna, Nerwen, or Nessa is a wolf

#1245
Leans towards Nienna, Nerwen, and Nessa at beginning of post, suspects Mira and Nerwen by the end

#1246
Wants to hear from Mira about morm vote from yesterday

#1260
Looks at Alona and Nerwen

#1265
"Here's my order:
Nienna
Lommy
Morm
Nerwen
Form
Sally
Mira
Durelin
Rikae
Mac"

#1282
Leaning towards Form

#1287
Would feel comfortable going after Nienna or sally

#1293
Explains to Rikae why doesn't think sally is evil
"I've heard that she's pretty straight forward when she's an innocent and will even say so. She doesn't tend to lie. It was mentioned twice in previous posts. Don't remember where. I do remember her stating she's an ordo. Unfortunately I don't remember what post that was. I'm thinking somewhere on Day 2. As you know Sally talks a lot and I'm not sure I'd find it in 20 mins."

#1295
Votes Nienna

#1323
Agrees with that Mac that splitting non-morm votes between Nienna and Form isn't a good idea, but did it herself

Day 5

#1345
Agrees with sally that the other BFF should be quiet
Leaning towards Form

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If we go on my theory from yesterday that autume is Alona's packmate, I would think that sally is their third based on the way she always defends her. However, she also thought Rikae was innocent and made a point of saying it. This could be perfectly innocent, or she wanted to make it clear that she didn't suspect her so people wouldn't be suspicious when Rikae was killed by the wolves.

Unfortunately, I have to (once again) leave () and won't be back for deadline, so I'm going to have to vote now. Autume still looks suspicious to me so that's who I'm going with.

++autume98

[satansaloser2005]

#619. Did she actually say that, or was that just Mira's interpretation? 'Cause if that's actually what she said, it's pretty suspicious, at least to me.


*goes to look*

[satansaloser2005]

For the duck (who's probably not reading the game, but still....)

"That's what she said. That is what she said."


In other words, she did say exactly that, and it bothers me. Now it could be Tum feeling bad for killing the seer (as she should!) and she's planning to be less cavalier with her votes from now on, but it also could be her realizing she's done something suspicious and apologizing (for whatever reason) for doing something like....


OOOO! *wishes Dun was here, because the lightbulb's come on and I wanna see how long it'll last/how good it is*

Could Tum be our cobbler? I know I'm suggesting this rather out of the blue, but it would make sense. Her parroting (no offense, dearie) is making me look connected to a known wolf, and she's said enough to draw attention yet not enough to get herself lynched....yet. Also, it would explain her tie to Alona (if she did in fact think Alona was a wolf) as well as how bland she's being in suspicion, because she doesn't want to stumble upon a packie and kill them. Sensical?



Also, in an unrelated matter, I wouldn't be surprised if Durie was hunting me. I'm not saying you should stop suspecting me because of it, but I think it was a good possibility. *shrugs* Just my two cents.

[satansaloser2005]

Also, I think Rikae might have been the failed Night kill. I'm not certain, but it's possible. What do you all think? And why would they want Rikae dead so badly?

[autume98]

At this point in time I really feel like Form is suspicious along with Lommy. I don't have a lot of people I trust right now, but I do think that Mac and Nienna are innocent.
As for the rest, I know some of them aren't innocent. I just am not sure which ones. I'm leaning towards Nerwen and Sally as Cobblers. I'm just not sure which one is the cobbler. Since I'd rather nab a wolf or bear toDay they aren't high on my list right now.
The only thing I can remember about Nessa right now is her No-Vote on Day 3. I probably won't have time to go through and analyze her today.
The only thing I can say about Mira is that she's voted for me yesterDay, now she has voted for me toDay. However I'm not going to go after her for that. I wish I had the time to go do an analysis on her. She could possibly be the bear, but so could Lommy or Form.
So my list order right now is:
Form/Lommy
Nerwen
Sally
Mira
Nessa
Nienna
Mac

Edit xed with 3 sallys

[Macalaure]

Mira, analysis is good, however, your analysis is almost exclusively summary (just like before) and altogether your approach is ridiculously narrowed-down. With so little time at hand, why is your prime focus to go after Autume instead of figuring out what was behind what happened yesterDay and what can be learned from it? You're not helpful (and that's the innocent interpretation of it. I could offer a suspicious one, but I didn't want to go after the non-morms toDay).

About the #619 comment, I read it as a newbie-ish thing to say. It felt and feels genuine, strange at it was.

Originally Posted by Sally

Also, I think Rikae might have been the failed Night kill. I'm not certain, but it's possible. What do you all think? And why would they want Rikae dead so badly?

1. What does this question matter now?
2. Why do you encourage people to talk about something which doesn't matter (when we really have better things to discuss)?
3. If so, it's obviously because Rikae was considered innocent.

Originally Posted by Autume

I'm leaning towards Nerwen and Sally as Cobblers.

Unless Nerwen is trying a very extravagant strategy, she's the cobbler. I've seen cobblers losing the interest in their hide-and-seek game before the end of the game before. Then they settle down to throwing in an occasional confusing comment, have a tone of not caring anymore, and vote for who they think is innocent. They know that lynching them is as much of a mistake as letting them live.

Originally Posted by Autume

Since I'd rather nab a wolf or bear toDay they aren't high on my list right now.

According to your list, they are high on it - they are second behind Lommy and Form - so that makes no sense. Assuming Sally is not the cobbler, what is your opinion of her?

[autume98]

Originally Posted by Macalaure;608561According to your list, they [I

are[/I] high on it - they are second behind Lommy and Form - so that makes no sense. Assuming Sally is not the cobbler, what is your opinion of her?

I am having a hard time getting a handle on her. I thought she was innocent, but now I am not so sure. I don't know what to make of her vote yesterday. I don't think she is a wolf, maybe a bear.