T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter

[Valier]

I find when I was a wolf the best plan was to have a wolf in each category, ie: one that goes againt his fellow wolves, one that follows their leads, one thats loud, one thats quiet etc... you know, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

If the wolves already knew what Rune was planning, I am sure they would have planned to have one wolf at least be against him and accuse him of wolfishness to make themselves look good.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Ah, I see the narration answered my question to Legate as for who he picked. Why those two?

Quite simple, for several reasons, one of them was kind of "ruling out" method, which was probably one of the main points, and those two were ones which I would have considered at the same time a) innocent-ish enough to talk to, b) interesting enough to wish to talk to them more and see them interact also in private, and all of that. That's basically it.

Originally Posted by Valier

I find when I was a wolf the best plan was to have a wolf in each category, ie: one that goes againt his fellow wolves, one that follows their leads, one thats loud, one thats quiet etc... you know, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

If the wolves already knew what Rune was planning, I am sure they would have planned to have one wolf at least be against him and accuse him of wolfishness to make themselves look good.

This makes sense, but let's not forget that such approach would assume also one basket among the supporters. The rest could have been basically quite random.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Valier

I find when I was a wolf the best plan was to have a wolf in each category, ie: one that goes againt his fellow wolves, one that follows their leads, one thats loud, one thats quiet etc... you know, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

On the contrary, I find that the best tactic for wolves is to behave exactly like they'd normally behave. A quiet player remains quiet, a brazen player remains brazen. If declaring that he wanted to be Captain because it would be fun and he likes attention seemed out of character for Rune, do you really think he'd have been voted in?

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

On the contrary, I find that the best tactic for wolves is to behave exactly like they'd normally behave. A quiet player remains quiet, a brazen player remains brazen. If declaring that he wanted to be Captain because it would be fun and he likes attention seemed out of character for Rune, do you really think he'd have been voted in?

Again, true, but they still want to try for the situation that gives them the best advantage.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Roa

Lommy (who could start a restaurant with all of her waffles)

Love you, Roa!

I love it how Roa can make anyone look suspicious or inconsistent by analysing them. However, I have to say that Legate is always thinking things rather thoroughly (and arguing in circles) but I must agree with Roa that he has been maybe a bit too careful even for himself. Personally, I don't see anything too bad about him - I'm sort of undecided as you can see - but I wouldn't want him as a Captain anymore.

Firstly, because he was never really even voted to be the Captain, he just became the Captain because the elected Captain happened to die (and I must say that surprised me because I - wrongly - assumed we'd be without a Captain in a case like that). Ok this might not be the best of reasons, especially as our elected Captain was a wolf, but still for the sake of democracy, I'd rather have someone really elected for the position (and of course that doesn't disinclude Legate being re-elected).

Secondly, and more importantly, because I don't think anybody should have power for too long. It's not only dangerous but also a bit useless. Legate had his chance to be protected and appoint people to PM with and talk with them, now let's give someone else to have the chance. (In a way, I see it as rather selfish to ask for another Day of Captaincy, or eyebrow-raising in the least.) The village benefits the more we have different people PMing and thus forming ideas of each other every Night. And like people have said, it's not good to have a wolf captain or a gifted captain, so it's safer to change them regularly.

And lastly, I don't trust Legate or his judgement so much that he'd my top choice for a Captain, so I will cast my wolf (I'm leaving that typo there because it was so funny, I of course meant "vote" ) for someone I'd rather see as the Captain. (And don't interpret this as if I was discontent with Legate or his judgement or disapproving of stuff he's done this far, I would value him above the average in a choice for captaincy, but he's not my top choice now, especially as he's already been a Captain. I call for a vote of no confidence in Chancellor Legatum! )

I need to analyse and think of stuff more, but to me Mac appears as a sort of safe no trace kill, possibly suspected ranger (he was sort of innocentish yet rather refrained and careful, so I could see someone making that assumption). Of course, wolves need to watch out for the hunters in this game, but it's not so bad for them with the master hunter gone, so it does make to take Mac's opinion of people into account but maybe not too much. (This would make Sally and Nienna look more innocent and Kath, Brinn, Roa and Legate look more guilty. It is funny that Nerwen arrives to the opposite conclusion.)

Valier is looking rather bad right now. I agree with Fea that her posts don't look genuine at the moment, and her interactions with Rune were rather fishy.

And speaking of her - Valier, did you talk with Boro at all last Night? If yes, was there anything special you two came up with?

Also - would our Night talker like to come forwards and tell who did they PM with and what kind of impressions they got from each other? (Assuming that the Night talker and his/her companion are alive.)

As my last note - I'm around right now for at least another hour, but once I go I'm not sure if I can be back. I have work and then I'm going to go to a meeting of new Art History students so it might be that I won't be back before the DL. Sorry for not being around enough, but this week Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday have been just hectic and with my luck two of them have been ww Days...

[Thinlómien]

I'm considering voting Roa for Captain.

We need another Captain, and Roa happens to look relatively innocentish, have some support and be someone whose judgement I generally trust.

However, I'm worried if we should vote her. Why? Because I think it might be difficult to wrestle her out of that position of power. I think people would be generally happy with her leadership because she's so active and, well, charismatic, and seems to make a lot of chance. (later addition: <- meant "sense", not "chance"! what's the problem with my mind today? )

What's the problem with her staying in power if people are content with her captaincy? 1) The fact that she might be a wolf or a gifted. 2) One person shouldn't have too much power, especially if it's someone like Roa. 3) It's the most beneficial to have changing captains.

All this rambling aside, I will probably vote her for Captain, but I want people to think about this stuff.

[Thinlómien]

++Nerwen for Night Guard

She could be anything. She gives me sort of cobblerish vibes, so I don't exactly mind taking her Nightly powers away.

She does not seem too wolvish that I'd be wary of protecting her for the Night, but she's definitely unsure enough on my list that I'd light to give her the scrutiny a Night's PM contact with another player can bring.

And if she's innocent, she's the sort of person who could make sharp observations about her PMing partner.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Of course, wolves need to watch out for the hunters in this game, but it's not so bad for them with the master hunter gone, so it does make to take Mac's opinion of people into account but maybe not too much. (This would make Sally and Nienna look more innocent and Kath, Brinn, Roa and Legate look more guilty. It is funny that Nerwen arrives to the opposite conclusion.)

You misunderstand me... or maybe I wasn't clear enough. I should have put the word "look" in italics or something. I was trying to work out what, if anything, Mac's death might have accomplished for the wolves. (i.e. I basically had the same conclusion as you.)

EDIT:X'd with Lommy's last post; added comment.
EDIT2:In fact I believe I will put it in italics.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

You misunderstand me... or maybe I wasn't clear enough. I should have put the word "look" in italics or something. I was trying to work out what, if anything, Mac's death might have accomplished for the wolves. (i.e. I basically had the same conclusion as you.)

By which did it accomplish that Sally and Nienna look more guilty?

In case it hasn't been phrased clearly enough by anyone toDay, I call for a Captaincy Vote. (Just to make an official statement, but I don't think it has to be done because people have already cast new captaincy votes.)

++Roa for Captain

Now I'm off to use my last half an hour or so for solely determining who's guilty.