TIG LXIX: Meeting at the House of Usher - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-07-2009, 05:39 PM

OK, listen up Village. I have an important announcement.

You should not vote for Fea. Repeat, you should not vote for Fea. Why? Because she is the most wonderful, lovely, fascinating, intoxicating and cute - yes, Roa, cute

- creature that has ever brightened the thread of a Werewolf game with her presence. So, just leave her alone, or you'll have me to answer to.

Also, because she is not a Werewolf. She is a Lover. How do I know? Because I am the one who Loves her. And, should she be lynched toDay, then I shall wreak most terrible vengeance on the one that I consider most responsible for her death.

Oh, and Wolves. Should you think of attacking one of us toNight, then you will be one Wolf down tomorrow. I have one of you pegged and I am pretty sure that I have at least one other.

All we want to do is be together. We don't care who else wins, whether Villagers or Werewolves. So just leave us alone and we'll leave you alone. OK?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-07-2009, 05:43 PM

*nuzzles my beloved Sauciekins*

Roa_Aoife · 11-07-2009, 05:48 PM

Alright, then SPM, care to enlighten us? We (the village) lose if lynch an innocent toDay and toMorrow. We are cutting it very thin, and you can't count on the wolves to not try to kill you. You are, after all, a known innocent now, and so is Fea. And the wolves can't have that around.

So if you think you've found a wolf, it's in your best interest to share with us who and why.

And I still think Hakon dreamed of Boromir.

Edit: crossed with Fea down

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-07-2009, 05:50 PM

Roa, please allow me to elucidate how you are wrong about people's best interests.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-07-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa

So if you think you've found a wolf, it's in your best interest to share with us who and why.

I beg to differ. It's in my best interests, and those of my beloved Fea, to stay alive to the end, regardless of whether Wolves or Villagers win.

Let all of you make of that what you will.

But, knowing what you know now, I should think that a few things might become a lot clearer.

Roa_Aoife · 11-07-2009, 05:57 PM

So you two are simply going to sit back and see what happens? That's it? You won't help us at all?

Yes, SPM, that tells me that you haven't had the interests of the village at heart from the very beginning. All of your suspicions have been designed to allow you and Fea to survive.

If lynching the two of you wouldn't lose us the game...

Edit: Crossed

Editedit: grammar

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-07-2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

All of your suspicions have been designed to allow you and Fea to survive.

Clearly it was an accident the cobbler had to die... But better her than me.

If only you could release your fury by lynching us...

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-07-2009, 05:59 PM

Besides, I told you pages and pages ago that you should pay more attention to the Lovers because they might not have the village's best interest in mind.

You, Roa, told me that we weren't a threat.

We took it as a dare.

Roa_Aoife · 11-07-2009, 06:03 PM

Fine, then.

I suggest we ignore the two of them from now on, as they've made their choice, and it clearly isn't for us.

I have to leave shortly, and now I have no idea who to vote for. I'll be back soon after reviewing somethings.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-07-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my beloved

If only you could release your fury by lynching us...

I am afraid, Roa, that's what you get for suggesting that she isn't cute.

Nogrod · 11-07-2009, 06:04 PM

So it's that way then with you romantics!

And I can see the persuasion of the dark side whispering to you already how it would be so much cooler to win beside the baddies...

Just a minute...

Make it four wolves and two lovers willing to go with them... that leaves only five villagers.

So the baddies could actually just call it a day then and outvote us toDay?

EDIT: x'd with too many again... heh, all the Day just silence and then things happen in a minute...

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-07-2009, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noggie

So the baddies could actually just call it a day then and outvote us toDay?

The penny drops ...

Loslote · 11-07-2009, 06:09 PM

Well, then, we'd better not do any vote-splitting. Remember Nog's game? We (the innocents) had it, but we split the vote and lost. BEFORE VOTING be sure to explain fully your vote, and DON'T vote for a weak reason.

EDIT: xed with SPAM

Nogrod · 11-07-2009, 06:11 PM

Actually, I just realised we might pressure you two sweethearts...

If we lynch one of you the other one can only take out one - and looking at the numbers you might hit a wolf as well (4 out of 9 is your chance - so basically 50-50).

So would you like to play alongside us or do you wish to side with the baddies?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-07-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

We (the village) lose if lynch an innocent toDay and toMorrow.

Why yes, yes you do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa

We are cutting it very thin, and you can't count on the wolves to not try to kill you.

Frankly, we're counting on them to court us, not kill us. As we're on our own team, we can choose who we want to win without it counting as betrayal. While we number with the innocents on the tally, our allegiances are our own, as Lovers, and the wolves, if they wanted to play their cards right, could count on us to hand them an unbeatable voting block. Six to five. We could call it a game right now.

Quote:

So if you think you've found a wolf, it's in your best interest to share with us who and why.

Actually, what's in our best interest is whatever we feel like doing, providing we choose how it's done.

Aww, I've crossed with my Snookums...

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-07-2009, 07:24 PM

Once upon a cold November, while I ventured to remember,
The many quaint and curious demands of the mods of yours--
When I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my iChat door.
"'Tis my Nienna," I muttered, "tapping at my iChat door--
telling me to rhyme some more."

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-07-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Once upon a cold November, while I ventured to remember,
The many quaint and curious demands of the mods of yours--
When I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my iChat door.
"'Tis my Nienna," I muttered, "tapping at my iChat door--
telling me to rhyme some more."

*Claps* Bravo!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Personally, I think the Lovers' ploy toDay is rather clever...

Why thank you, but flattery will get you nowhere. We have eyes only for each other.

Now, saying that my darling Fea was not cute was bad enough. But voting for her as well? Well, that's the last straw.

++Roa

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-07-2009, 11:00 PM

++Roa

Nienna · 11-07-2009, 11:03 PM

Deadline. Stop posting.

Mirandir · 11-07-2009, 11:06 PM

McCaber has been lynched. He was a wolf.

It is now Night 4.

Mirandir · 11-08-2009, 11:00 PM

So this one time I epically fail as a mod and haven't had time to do any of the narrations. They are coming, I promise.

On a related note, Pitchwife was killed. He was an ordo.

It is now Day 4. Discuss.

satansaloser2005 · 11-08-2009, 11:02 PM

*loves the moddess(es) anyway*

On a less related note, I need some sleep. Oh, and I realize I left Pitch out of my list yesterDay; it was a complete oversight because I wasn't well. Sorry about that.

To bed with me now. Yay for the lynch on Cabbie, as he was my other top suspect (still, Roa is my first) and I'm glad to know I got something right for once. Maybe if I get some sleep it'll happen again.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-08-2009, 11:06 PM

So.

How 'bout that Night discussion?

I bet it was riveting.

Mirandir · 11-08-2009, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

So.

How 'bout that Night discussion?

I bet it was riveting.

*chokes on water* Fea, I love you.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-08-2009, 11:11 PM

Now, now, Mira, there are better things to be choking on at 12:11 AM. Don't hurt yourself.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-09-2009, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

So.

How 'bout that Night discussion?

I bet it was riveting.

Isn’t she just adorable.

So, matters remain in the balance and we remain neutral (though open to offers). It's a shame really, as yesterDay’s voting record is a real juicy one, just ripe for analysis.

Here it is anyway, as it is traditional for me to post it:

Roa -> Nerwen (Nerwen - 1)
Roa -- Nerwen -> Fea (Fea - 1)
Loslote -> McCaber (Fea - 1, McCaber - 1)
Nogrod -> McCaber (Fea - 1, McCaber - 2)
SPM -> Roa (Fea - 1, McCaber - 2, Roa - 1)
Sally -> Roa (Fea - 1, McCaber - 2, Roa - 2)
Inzil -> McCaber (Fea - 1, McCaber - 3, Roa - 2)
Nerwen -> McCaber (Fea - 1, McCaber - 4, Roa - 2)
Brinn -> McCaber (Fea - 1, McCaber - 5, Roa - 2)
Fea -> Roa (Fea - 1, McCaber - 5, Roa - 3)

Did not vote: Pitch, McCaber

Make of it what you will.

Edit: I left my beloved off the voting record. How could I forget her!

Nerwen · 11-09-2009, 05:02 AM

Thanks for the list, SPM.

Now, I said yesterDay evening that Roa and Sally were unlikely to both be wolves, but that was silly. At the time Sally voted, only Fea, Roa and McWolfer had votes and it was only five minutes to DL. So if she's a wolf and Roa and McCaber her packmates, she'd have known one of them was going down whatever she did.

This is not an accusation– I'm merely saying there's no particular reason Sally's vote on Roa couldn't have been wolf-on-wolf.

Roa_Aoife · 11-08-2009, 11:23 PM

Alright, posting before bed.

First and foremost- to Fea and SPM, while I can't say I'm happy with your choices in strategy, I do owe you an apology. I was rude and it was inexcusable. You have a right to play however you want, and while as a villager I may be unhappy, as a player I should respect your choice.

To those who suspect me:

Your reasons are what? I lost my temper? Because that's so out of character for me? At the time, it looked to me like Fea and SPM had thrown their chips in with the wolves, so no matter what we would lose. I wanted to punish them for that. My mentality was one of "If I'm going down, I'm taking them with me."

Yes, my vote for Nerwen was a shot in the dark. I had only one suspect at the beginning of the Day, and that was Fea. My last two posts were made as my guest (Craydon) was literally trying to pull me away from my keyboard so we wouldn't be late. Loslote, you accuse me of splitting the vote, but no one else had voted at that point. Had you voted, I'd have followed you since I believe you to be innocent, especially with how you handled Fea and SPM's coming out and subsequent statement of non-cooperation. But no one had voted, and I had no suspects. How was I supposed to vote with the village when the village hadn't voted?

Yes, McCaber was a wolf (and now we are in the place we were yesterday). I fail to see how that points to me being a wolf.

I'm going to bed. My posting will be about the same as yesterday. (In quantity, hopefully not in quality.)

Edit: Crossed with Fea's first post down.

Nerwen · 11-09-2009, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Loslote, you accuse me of splitting the vote, but no one else had voted at that point. Had you voted, I'd have followed you since I believe you to be innocent, especially with how you handled Fea and SPM's coming out and subsequent statement of non-cooperation. But no one had voted, and I had no suspects. How was I supposed to vote with the village when the village hadn't voted?

The village would hardly have voted for Fea, would it? Or me either, I should think. Did you really expect people (innoccent-type people, anyway) to follow either of those votes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Yes, McCaber was a wolf (and now we are in the place we were yesterday). I fail to see how that points to me being a wolf.

Because Fea, presumably the intended lynchee, had just become a known innocent and McWolfer was next in line to the gallows. Therefore if you were a wolf you would need to put forward another candidate in a hurry.

I don't say you are a wolf, mind. You seemed to panic at the Lovers' reveal, in a way that could have been either that of a wolf or of a frustrated innocent.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-08-2009, 11:19 PM

I shall now reenact the way I believe the Nightly discussion must have gone:

Wolf #1: Alas, poor Dead!Wolf. Also, OH MY GODZ TEH FEAZ AND SPAMIE CAN HAZ BE EVILZ???!!?

Wolf #2: I nohwz! We can haz FeaSpamie vote of epik awesome?

Wolf #3: Fea+Spamie might can haz bad motivz and we diez if we says "Hi FeaSpamie!"

Wolves 1-3: *deliberate*

Wolves 1-3: *decide*

Day Occurs.

11-07-2009, 05:50 PM	#4
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Roa, please allow me to elucidate how you are wrong about people's best interests. __________________ peace

11-07-2009, 05:57 PM	#6
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	So you two are simply going to sit back and see what happens? That's it? You won't help us at all? Yes, SPM, that tells me that you haven't had the interests of the village at heart from the very beginning. All of your suspicions have been designed to allow you and Fea to survive. If lynching the two of you wouldn't lose us the game... Edit: Crossed Editedit: grammar __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

11-07-2009, 05:59 PM	#8
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Besides, I told you pages and pages ago that you should pay more attention to the Lovers because they might not have the village's best interest in mind. You, Roa, told me that we weren't a threat. We took it as a dare. __________________ peace

11-07-2009, 06:03 PM	#9
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Fine, then. I suggest we ignore the two of them from now on, as they've made their choice, and it clearly isn't for us. I have to leave shortly, and now I have no idea who to vote for. I'll be back soon after reviewing somethings. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

11-07-2009, 06:04 PM	#11
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	So it's that way then with you romantics! And I can see the persuasion of the dark side whispering to you already how it would be so much cooler to win beside the baddies... Just a minute... Make it four wolves and two lovers willing to go with them... that leaves only five villagers. So the baddies could actually just call it a day then and outvote us toDay? EDIT: x'd with too many again... heh, all the Day just silence and then things happen in a minute... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-07-2009, 05:39 PM	#1
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	OK, listen up Village. I have an important announcement. You should not vote for Fea. Repeat, you should not vote for Fea. Why? Because she is the most wonderful, lovely, fascinating, intoxicating and cute - yes, Roa, cute - creature that has ever brightened the thread of a Werewolf game with her presence. So, just leave her alone, or you'll have me to answer to. Also, because she is not a Werewolf. She is a Lover. How do I know? Because I am the one who Loves her. And, should she be lynched toDay, then I shall wreak most terrible vengeance on the one that I consider most responsible for her death. Oh, and Wolves. Should you think of attacking one of us toNight, then you will be one Wolf down tomorrow. I have one of you pegged and I am pretty sure that I have at least one other. All we want to do is be together. We don't care who else wins, whether Villagers or Werewolves. So just leave us alone and we'll leave you alone. OK? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-07-2009, 05:43 PM	#2
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	nuzzles my beloved Sauciekins __________________ peace

11-07-2009, 05:48 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Alright, then SPM, care to enlighten us? We (the village) lose if lynch an innocent toDay and toMorrow. We are cutting it very thin, and you can't count on the wolves to not try to kill you. You are, after all, a known innocent now, and so is Fea. And the wolves can't have that around. So if you think you've found a wolf, it's in your best interest to share with us who and why. And I still think Hakon dreamed of Boromir. Edit: crossed with Fea down __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

11-07-2009, 06:09 PM	#13
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	Well, then, we'd better not do any vote-splitting. Remember Nog's game? We (the innocents) had it, but we split the vote and lost. BEFORE VOTING be sure to explain fully your vote, and DON'T vote for a weak reason. EDIT: xed with SPAM __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

11-07-2009, 06:11 PM	#14
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Actually, I just realised we might pressure you two sweethearts... If we lynch one of you the other one can only take out one - and looking at the numbers you might hit a wolf as well (4 out of 9 is your chance - so basically 50-50). So would you like to play alongside us or do you wish to side with the baddies? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-07-2009, 07:24 PM	#16
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Once upon a cold November, while I ventured to remember, The many quaint and curious demands of the mods of yours-- When I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my iChat door. "'Tis my Nienna," I muttered, "tapping at my iChat door-- telling me to rhyme some more." __________________ peace

11-07-2009, 11:00 PM	#18
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	++Roa __________________ peace

11-07-2009, 11:03 PM	#19
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	Deadline. Stop posting. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

11-07-2009, 11:06 PM	#20
Mirandir Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CT/NY Posts: 681	McCaber has been lynched. He was a wolf. It is now Night 4. __________________ Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.

11-08-2009, 11:00 PM	#21
Mirandir Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CT/NY Posts: 681	a message from the failmod... So this one time I epically fail as a mod and haven't had time to do any of the narrations. They are coming, I promise. On a related note, Pitchwife was killed. He was an ordo. It is now Day 4. Discuss. __________________ Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.

11-08-2009, 11:02 PM	#22
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	loves the moddess(es) anyway On a less related note, I need some sleep. Oh, and I realize I left Pitch out of my list yesterDay; it was a complete oversight because I wasn't well. Sorry about that. To bed with me now. Yay for the lynch on Cabbie, as he was my other top suspect (still, Roa is my first) and I'm glad to know I got something right for once. Maybe if I get some sleep it'll happen again. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

11-08-2009, 11:06 PM	#23
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	So. How 'bout that Night discussion? I bet it was riveting. __________________ peace

11-08-2009, 11:11 PM	#25
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Now, now, Mira, there are better things to be choking on at 12:11 AM. Don't hurt yourself. __________________ peace

11-09-2009, 05:02 AM	#27
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Thanks for the list, SPM. Now, I said yesterDay evening that Roa and Sally were unlikely to both be wolves, but that was silly. At the time Sally voted, only Fea, Roa and McWolfer had votes and it was only five minutes to DL. So if she's a wolf and Roa and McCaber her packmates, she'd have known one of them was going down whatever she did. This is not an accusation– I'm merely saying there's no particular reason Sally's vote on Roa couldn't have been wolf-on-wolf. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

11-08-2009, 11:23 PM	#28
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Alright, posting before bed. First and foremost- to Fea and SPM, while I can't say I'm happy with your choices in strategy, I do owe you an apology. I was rude and it was inexcusable. You have a right to play however you want, and while as a villager I may be unhappy, as a player I should respect your choice. To those who suspect me: Your reasons are what? I lost my temper? Because that's so out of character for me? At the time, it looked to me like Fea and SPM had thrown their chips in with the wolves, so no matter what we would lose. I wanted to punish them for that. My mentality was one of "If I'm going down, I'm taking them with me." Yes, my vote for Nerwen was a shot in the dark. I had only one suspect at the beginning of the Day, and that was Fea. My last two posts were made as my guest (Craydon) was literally trying to pull me away from my keyboard so we wouldn't be late. Loslote, you accuse me of splitting the vote, but no one else had voted at that point. Had you voted, I'd have followed you since I believe you to be innocent, especially with how you handled Fea and SPM's coming out and subsequent statement of non-cooperation. But no one had voted, and I had no suspects. How was I supposed to vote with the village when the village hadn't voted? Yes, McCaber was a wolf (and now we are in the place we were yesterday). I fail to see how that points to me being a wolf. I'm going to bed. My posting will be about the same as yesterday. (In quantity, hopefully not in quality.) Edit: Crossed with Fea's first post down. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

11-08-2009, 11:19 PM	#30
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I shall now reenact the way I believe the Nightly discussion must have gone: Wolf #1: Alas, poor Dead!Wolf. Also, OH MY GODZ TEH FEAZ AND SPAMIE CAN HAZ BE EVILZ???!!? Wolf #2: I nohwz! We can haz FeaSpamie vote of epik awesome? Wolf #3: Fea+Spamie might can haz bad motivz and we diez if we says "Hi FeaSpamie!" Wolves 1-3: deliberate Wolves 1-3: decide Day Occurs. __________________ peace