Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Thinlómien]

You love my new characters, Foley, don't you?

[Groin Redbeard]

I got a post up in defense of Lithor. It is obviously bias, but I could not stand to watch everyone tare him up without some type of defense. I'll have to think hard on how to change Lithor's attitude back around, I don't want him to be a depressed angry character (that is what Erbrand is for). I'll have Lithor lay low for a while, stay in the shadows and pop out every now and then when needed.

Durelin, Lommy, nice posts. I like Coen a lot and I hope that we hear more from him in the future and I want to see those twins interact more with original Scarburg characters.

Nogrod, are you going to post for the grumpy old man character soon? I want to see how he fits in with his new surroundings.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'll be out of touch for a bit- my computer got sick and needs some organ transplants, so I won't have it for a few days at least.

Make good art while I'm gone!

[Nogrod]

What a perfect timing to come and read the thread!

Originally Posted by Groin

Nogrod, are you going to post for the grumpy old man character soon? I want to see how he fits in with his new surroundings.

Ahh... I had actually forgotten about him... Yes, sure.

But now I'm off to sleep.


Btw. I used the quite modern expression of a "good cop or a bad cop" for I wanted you all to understand what he means (even if it's just him thinking to himself). But if anyone of you would suggest a bit more ancient sounding metaphor to it's place I'd gladly change it as it kind of sounds a bit off to my ear at least...

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Btw. I used the quite modern expression of a "good cop or a bad cop" for I wanted you all to understand what he means (even if it's just him thinking to himself). But if anyone of you would suggest a bit more ancient sounding metaphor to it's place I'd gladly change it as it kind of sounds a bit off to my ear at least...

I agree. I wondered why you used it. I'll try to think of something.

Groin and I have written a post together. I didn't want to post it until someone had posted after Groin's last post to see if people really cheered for Saeryn. I will not post it quite yet, although Nogrod did post. I will wait to see if anyone else has aught to say.

How much more of this night needs to happen?

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Folwren

How much more of this night needs to happen?

A bit of Wulfric and Wilheard... But I shall do that today or tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Groin

I want to see those twins interact more with original Scarburg characters.

You just want Erbrand to get mad at them, eh?

[Folwren]

ooh! I hope you post soon, Lommy! I like reading about those two infidels!

[Folwren]

I posted the post that Groin and I wrote together. I would have waited for Legate to post, but I don't know if I have internet at home and I will not be anywhere with sure internet again for a few days. Legate can still post, though.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Wow, that's a great post (in several senses of the word, for sure... ).

[Nogrod]

Let's wait for Lommy to post - and anyone who wishes!

But then we could roll this thing forwards.

Are the writers of the soldiers willing to write something on the practising the next day? We might make a few posts for the next day just to get in the mood of how people feel when sober after a confusing banquet.


Lord Athanar at least should settle the matter with Lithor... and that should involve Thornden, Coen and maybe Lithor himself, I think. We should decide on that here.

Talking of that: great post Foley and Groin!

[Mnemosyne]

Nog, do you want our characters to debrief the whole day in private discussion?

Aside from that I'm fine with moving forward. Tomorrow (in game) I'm planning on addressing the matter of Javan with Saeryn so we can come up with some sort of effective consequence... provided my two good-for-naught sons don't come up with something on their own!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Degas needs to have a Very Important Conversation, but not until after the feast, and the only people who need to know what the Very Important Conversation is about already know.

So whenever all y'all are ready to move on, no need to wait for me.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Nog, do you want our characters to debrief the whole day in private discussion?

We probably should make a post for the two. The situation in general and the issues with Javan and Lithor in particular should be discussed by the two at least shortly - and that way we could also start building their relationship as to how they talk and behave when together.

Fea, would that "Very Important Conversation" take place after the banquet but on the same day, or the next day?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

The boys know that Saeryn is as much a noble as they do, right? They're just being crude creeps?

Don't get me wrong, I love the problems they cause, and every time I see them trashing Saeryn I want to go slap them silly, I just want to make sure they know that if Degas heard them refer to his sister like that, he'd be torn between either pounding the snot out of them or going to Athanar to report their behavior.

Hey now... *has idea*

Not now, though. No time now for ideas... Sigh.

[Groin Redbeard]

Everything is looking grand! I'll get a post up for Lithor soon.

[Groin Redbeard]

I posted for Lithor. Let me know, Lommy, if it was alright that Lithor found the boys out. Old people just seem to know things like that. If you would rather have the boys approach Lithor, I'll change my post.

[Folwren]

Once more, I'm offline for less than a day and I come back to find people busy and bees....

To se records straight, I, too, feel very protective of Saeryn, and I don't think Degas will be the only one infuriated if he finds out about their thoughts/behavior/words.

And, Fea, that is MEAN to say "Hey now" and then not give your thought! That's like saying, "Hey, [put any name here]!" "What?" "Never Mind."

I'll go read the thread.

EDIT: Lommy, Lommy, Lommy....you do manage to make people riled up. You have developed two wonderfully perfect jerks. I like 'em.

Also, Nogrod, how 'bout for you 'good cop, bad cop' thing, he could just think 'hero vs. villian' type of thought.

-- Foley

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Folwren

And, Fea, that is MEAN to say "Hey now" and then not give your thought! That's like saying, "Hey, [put any name here]!" "What?" "Never Mind."

I was thinking it might be highly entertaining to have the boys overheard while they're talking smack, but while I was trying to think who the opportune person to overhear them might be, I had to run off on errands of Major Importance.

Good news is that my school deadline got pushed back in the wake of my computer's need for gastrointestinal and optical surgery (hear that, Ni? My camera should be all better soon), so I'm not as rushed or as stressed.

Now that I've got a minute, I'm thinking Degas might not be the best person to overhear the boys. Maybe their own mother.

Everyone knows the threat of a mom is worse than just about any other one...

[Folwren]

Your post was good, Groin. I'll think of a reply later today and post it. Mnemo, if you want to overhear them talking to Lithor, you can take over after my post (if that's ok for Groin). Actually, wow, that would be really cool, Lithor sort of "saved" by Athanar's wife. Ooh...

I had a thought. Any time now, Javan and maybe the other boys will be slipping away from the tables....they could come across them first and then run in for help, maybe...if Lithor is being maltreated.

[Mnemosyne]

If they end up finding Athanar and/or Wynflaed first, we still don't know specifically who hit Aedre... It could make things a bit more interesting for later.

Plus the boys already talked about beating up Javan, and once we've put everything together this would make excellent motivation.

I don't, however, know whether it's in character for the lads to go and fetch help from the new eorl and his lady, especially if they're worried that they're going to be in trouble at some point.

Just some thoughts.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

I don't, however, know whether it's in character for the lads to go and fetch help from the new eorl and his lady, especially if they're worried that they're going to be in trouble at some point.

Perhaps they could run to Thornden and have and have Wynflaed overhear what they say.

[Thinlómien]

You think my rascals would beat Lithor or something? *innocent face*

I think they need not to start with violence...

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

You think my rascals would beat Lithor or something? *innocent face*

That's somehow what I thought their intentions were. Innocent face, indeed!

Mnemosyne, you are right - they would not go directly to Athanar or his wife, but they might go to Saeryn, and very probably go to Thornden. He can be back at his place by then, if that's how we want to do it.
And then Wynflaed can over hear. If I write a post, I can stop it right where they are speaking their stuff and then Mnymosyn can take from there?

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

You love my new characters, Foley, don't you?

Love is hardly the word I would use to describe my feelings for them.

Groin, I don't think that Lithor need become a depressed, angry sort of character. His actions, words, and behavior thus far in the game seem to make him out to be the sort of man that eventually, he would let his ill feeling go. If he indeed knows he's not guilty, then he'll be more likely not to be depressed. As for the angry...well, I can see him being angry as long as Athanar and others continue thinking he was guilty and he feels he wasn't. That will make him think he's being unjustly judged and condemned. But if he's a responsible fellow, he'll do his best to get rid of the anger and carry on with life, allowing them to be wrong in their impressions of him.

Don't hide Lithor. Take the opportunity to build his character.

-- Folwren

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Don't hide Lithor. Take the opportunity to build his character.

I won't hide him forever, but building his character might be dangerous to his reputation. The thing I like about Lithor is that nobody knows the intricate details of his past, so I can throw little tidbits of information in as I go. After the details of something is known, especially history, it loses its attraction.

Formy, that was an awesome line at the end of your post: "elvishily impractical." What a great line!

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Formy, that was an awesome line at the end of your post: "elvishily impractical." What a great line!

Thank you, sir. It was a happy little moment of inspiration, I though.

And because I've been asked elsewhere, I'll clarify Náin's situation so that the rest of you are clear...

Because Náin has the misfortune to have as his writer a student who is sporadically able/unable interested/distracted, depending those sordid things known collectively as "real life", what I've told Nogmod is that Náin will still be attached to Scarburg--but he doesn't permanently live there. It fits well with his history/situation thus far: he's something of a goodwill ambassador from the Dwarves to the Rohirrim, so he's back and forth between Gimli at Aglarond and the Rohirrim--in theory Éomer in Edoras, but mostly on loan to Scarburg as a "consultant," to use the modern term, and as a sculptor for some of the finer bits of the hall, like the fireplace mantle, etc.

What this means, in practical terms, is that Náin will around as often as I am--if it's month or two when I'm too busy or distracted, Náin will conveniently be away that day/week at Edoras or Aglarond... but otherwise he'll be at the Hall. And if things turn out that I am able/interested to be around all the time... then it'll conveniently just be the days that we don't roleplay when he's off.

Sound good?

[Groin Redbeard]

Hurry back soon Formy.

I have decided to take Folwren's advice and expand on Lithor's thoughts, though I was very careful not to expand on his past (that must be kept allusive and alluring). I also took the liberty of speaking for Kara for two sentences. Kath, let me know if I need to change anything.

[Eorl of Rohan]

Eeeeh.... Do I have to read all 18 pages of post in order to join the Meadhall, Lommy?

[Folwren]

Oh, no, Eorl. Don't even attempt it. Um...what kind of character are you thinking of introducing? Allow me to give you a summary of what has occurred, and then you can form your character accordingly and join.

About a month ago, Lord Eodwine, the realy eorl of Scarburg, fell sick. No one realized how sick he as until he positively collapsed, and no one in Scarburg could do anything about it, so they took him to Edoras. King Eomer, who had granted Eodwine his position as Eorl and given him Scarburg, did not think Eodwine likely to return soon, so he decided to set a new eorl over the place, despite the fact that Eodwine had a wife, Saeryn, who the people of Scarburg thought perfectly capable of ruling in Eodwine's stead until his return.

The new eorl is Athanar, who has just arrived in the game the previous day, game time. We are currently playing the day after his first night. The day of his arrival proved full of conflict, his people did not mix well with the Scarburg people. There were some fights and disagreements. Some of the Scarburgians think that Athanar and his people are usurpers of power - they especially resent the fact that Saeryn is being ousted from her place of lady of the hall by Athanar's wife. Tension, as you can imagine, is high.

Where we are now in the game - all the men-at-arms have just finished a drill type thing under the new captain/commander, Coenred. Thornden, the man who Eodwine had put into the position of captain, etc., is Coenred's .... lieutenant, you might say. He's under him, anyway.

One of Athanar's men-at-arms was for some reason unable to be with the others at the time of the drill, and he got into a fight with the Scarburgian man named Erbrand. Erbrand in the heat of the moment nearly strangled Scyrr to death and when he thought he was dead, he came to himself and realized his own danger and ran. Before he could leave he was met up by another Scarburgian man named Lithor (a man-at-arms who quite unintentionally got mixed up the wrong way with Athanar the previous night) and he and Lithor left together...

So, right now, Scyrr has just been found, Athanar has been allerted about what happened to him, Lithor's absence has not been verified, and I have a vague feeling the place is about to errupt. Good luck slipping unnoticed into the story.

Does that help? Anything else I should add, anyone?

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Does that help? Anything else I should add, anyone?

You have basically summed up the most important general events very well. I would only add that if you want any help with introducing your character into the story, Eorl, you might as well try to ask us around here. I mean: it's probably the easiest if you come up with a character to your own likes, and then unless you have a good idea yourself, you can ask around and we might help you to find his place. Basically there can be "old" soldiers, "new" soldiers* (including soldiers from Edoras from the King himself, who however are expected to leave back home later - though that's still some time and certainly an excuse could be devised for a single person who'd wish to stay, or something ), (old) peasants, whatnot... and of course you can even introduce somebody from the outside, if you really wanted (though that'd prove a bit more tricky, but only a bit)...

*There are a few "half-NPC" characters who don't have much of a character up to now and whom you could pick and develop if you didn't have any better idea - though I assume you'd have an idea of your own, too.

[Thinlómien]

Nice to see you're interested, Eorl. I hope Folwren and Legate have satisfied your curiousity for starters, if not just ask. We like new writers.

[Eorl of Rohan]

The Shire Roleplay Form that I sent Piosenniel have been received with profound silence, so I decided to tackle the 18 pages of the Meadhall in the meantime. I'm on page 9 as of now. Heh. Rowenna is so cute! And so is Eodwine. And Erbrand. And Dan, too, he's adorable. And Oeric. And Scyld!

PS. shaggydog? Winterfell?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Eorl of Rohan

The Shire Roleplay Form that I sent Piosenniel have been received with profound silence, so I decided to tackle the 18 pages of the Meadhall in the meantime. I'm on page 9 as of now. Heh. Rowenna is so cute! And so is Eodwine. And Erbrand. And Dan, too, he's adorable. And Oeric. And Scyld!

PS. shaggydog? Winterfell?

Now you have set yourself a really demanding task, Eorl But if you manage to read it all, you'll probably be better "updated" than many of us (also with having it all fresh in the memory).

I think the relevant part most related to today starts somewhere in about half of page 13, in the lower half there is a post by Nogrod entitled 11th November, that's where many of the new characters who are active now come into the picture. Sadly, many of the old characters have disappeared (basically all you have named are not around anymore... their players are not, at least). Anyway, so if you feel you can read all the thread, I think it'll be brilliant, however if you felt you cannot, maybe it'll be better to focus more on the later pages (but given that you've made it this far...)