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Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-28-2009, 02:33 AM

Nah, it doesn't sound that bad, Mugwump. Personally I had no idea when I saw the riddle and didn't feel like starting to think about something deeply for an hour. However, why not to make a little brainstorming, as long as it may give anybody a hint.

Your conclusions here made me think of Gaffer, for that matter. He was warming his hands by the fire, but that was in the Scouring of the Shire - when it comes to that, nobody says that the answer itself has anything to do with the Ringbearer at all. I didn't get it if the "one" is supposed to be "the one" (whom we know from somewhere before, for example from the first four hints) or if it is a new one, who is defined only by being "one in the Ringbearer's place". Which could be Bilbo, Gandalf, Frodo, also basically any silly Sackville-Baggins or young hobbit knocking on the floor, or even a Dwarf. (For that matter, even though I think the place is supposed to be Bag End, nobody says the Ringbearer needs to be Bilbo/Frodo. But most likely it is.)

Also, the initial impression I have is that we get something (four first letters?) from the start and we need to complete it with the rest.

Somehow, Samwise could fit there, but not completely. Once again the question is if the final answer is related at all to the riddle's theme (but it probably should).

skip spence · 11-28-2009, 05:27 AM

No time to give it much thought, but some parts of that riddle makes me think of Fatty Bolder.

His fear is felt, hunger is fed etc. obviously in the ringbearer's place in Crickhollow. But I'm shooting from the hip here mind you...

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-28-2009, 05:46 AM

Oh, you are all so close, particularly Mugwump, but you are not quite there yet ...

Mugwump · 11-28-2009, 02:33 PM

Well, I'm stumped; there's no more to go on. How about a wee hint: Is it a person, place, thing, action/activity, or a saying? Or something else?

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-29-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugwump

How about a wee hint: Is it a person, place, thing, action/activity, or a saying?

Yes, it's one or more of those things.

Take a look at some of the words that you came up with and then combine them with skip's ideas ...

Lalaith · 11-30-2009, 04:08 AM

Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!

I can't really take credit for this though. Most of the heavy lifting had been done.

Mugwump · 11-30-2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!

Aha, a direct quote from the text! I would never have gotten that. Good work, Lalaith!

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-30-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!

Bingo!

Although I kind of like Mugwump's alternative ... "Warm! Fire! Thumbs! Awake!"

Well, heavy lifter or not, Lalaith, you get the credit for finding the answer, so the thread is yours.

11-28-2009, 02:33 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nah, it doesn't sound that bad, Mugwump. Personally I had no idea when I saw the riddle and didn't feel like starting to think about something deeply for an hour. However, why not to make a little brainstorming, as long as it may give anybody a hint. Your conclusions here made me think of Gaffer, for that matter. He was warming his hands by the fire, but that was in the Scouring of the Shire - when it comes to that, nobody says that the answer itself has anything to do with the Ringbearer at all. I didn't get it if the "one" is supposed to be "the one" (whom we know from somewhere before, for example from the first four hints) or if it is a new one, who is defined only by being "one in the Ringbearer's place". Which could be Bilbo, Gandalf, Frodo, also basically any silly Sackville-Baggins or young hobbit knocking on the floor, or even a Dwarf. (For that matter, even though I think the place is supposed to be Bag End, nobody says the Ringbearer needs to be Bilbo/Frodo. But most likely it is.) Also, the initial impression I have is that we get something (four first letters?) from the start and we need to complete it with the rest. Somehow, Samwise could fit there, but not completely. Once again the question is if the final answer is related at all to the riddle's theme (but it probably should). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-28-2009, 05:27 AM	#2
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	No time to give it much thought, but some parts of that riddle makes me think of Fatty Bolder. His fear is felt, hunger is fed etc. obviously in the ringbearer's place in Crickhollow. But I'm shooting from the hip here mind you... __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

11-28-2009, 05:46 AM	#3
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Oh, you are all so close, particularly Mugwump, but you are not quite there yet ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-30-2009, 04:08 AM	#6
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake! I can't really take credit for this though. Most of the heavy lifting had been done. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

11-28-2009, 02:33 PM	#4
Mugwump Wight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taconic Mountains Posts: 111	Well, I'm stumped; there's no more to go on. How about a wee hint: Is it a person, place, thing, action/activity, or a saying? Or something else?