WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 11-29-2009, 05:13 PM

*hears the medic's words from the door and turns*

Show me a verified theory, any theory, and I'll show you a perpetuum mobile...

You can predict a thing happens - like that a hypothesis "works" - for any foreseen scenario, but they always predict only individual cases ("this pen on my hand will fall if I release it now"). But the fact that the prediction is fullfilled has nothing to do with verifying any abstract theory whatsoever (how do you jump from a positive result of an individual pen dropping to the law of gravitation?).

So let's just stick with probabilistic theories leaving room for indeterministic factors in the universe and forget that outdated mainstream hodgepodge that is suited for naturalists and other mechanical deteminists who don't have the faintest of the actual quantum-machanics behind the universe but are stuck with their 18th century views on things?

Oh, my test-tubes... excuse me...

Pitchwife · 11-29-2009, 05:34 PM

Fascinating as your expositions sound, my esteemed colleague Nogrod, I must admit I fail to perceive how they pertain to our current predicament.
All I can say with any certainty is that this death can hardly have been caused by any marine creature native to these latitudes that I'm familiar with. Anything with well-developped tentacles would probably qualify for the strangling, but I don't think a kraken or octopus could have demolished the controls like that, and the corpse doesn't show any marks of suction cups.
Nienna mentions wolves, which, however, are unlikely to be found in the Arctic Sea, miles from any land.
No, this looks like the work of human hands; and as we're quite isolated from civilization and outside interference, it seems we must look for the culprit among our team - appalling as the thought is. (Unless we have a stowaway on board; it would be a good idea to search the cargo holds.)

EDIT: x-ed with the meteorologist.

Boromir88 · 11-29-2009, 06:10 PM

As far as I'm concerned Legate deserved it for being too lazy to report my title properly. And I want to lynch sally for trying to go bigger.

On the brighter side, I would like to enter into a partnership/compare notes with Brinn for the obvious sarcastic reasons.

11-29-2009, 05:13 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	hears the medic's words from the door and turns Show me a verified theory, any theory, and I'll show you a perpetuum mobile... You can predict a thing happens - like that a hypothesis "works" - for any foreseen scenario, but they always predict only individual cases ("this pen on my hand will fall if I release it now"). But the fact that the prediction is fullfilled has nothing to do with verifying any abstract theory whatsoever (how do you jump from a positive result of an individual pen dropping to the law of gravitation?). So let's just stick with probabilistic theories leaving room for indeterministic factors in the universe and forget that outdated mainstream hodgepodge that is suited for naturalists and other mechanical deteminists who don't have the faintest of the actual quantum-machanics behind the universe but are stuck with their 18th century views on things? Oh, my test-tubes... excuse me... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-29-2009, 05:34 PM	#2
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Fascinating as your expositions sound, my esteemed colleague Nogrod, I must admit I fail to perceive how they pertain to our current predicament. All I can say with any certainty is that this death can hardly have been caused by any marine creature native to these latitudes that I'm familiar with. Anything with well-developped tentacles would probably qualify for the strangling, but I don't think a kraken or octopus could have demolished the controls like that, and the corpse doesn't show any marks of suction cups. Nienna mentions wolves, which, however, are unlikely to be found in the Arctic Sea, miles from any land. No, this looks like the work of human hands; and as we're quite isolated from civilization and outside interference, it seems we must look for the culprit among our team - appalling as the thought is. (Unless we have a stowaway on board; it would be a good idea to search the cargo holds.) EDIT: x-ed with the meteorologist. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

11-29-2009, 06:10 PM	#3
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	As far as I'm concerned Legate deserved it for being too lazy to report my title properly. And I want to lynch sally for trying to go bigger. On the brighter side, I would like to enter into a partnership/compare notes with Brinn for the obvious sarcastic reasons. __________________ Fenris Penguin