WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Boromir88]

Thanks Brinn.

Whether you agree or disagree I don't care, but to threaten you will quit, don't you think that takes it too far Roa? If I think in this case someone "making sense" is wolvish behavior than glacier-melt as my witness I will. And to say we might as well randomly pull names out of a hat is ridiculous.

It is Frodo who when speaking of Aragorn thinks an evil servant would look more fair and vice versa, someone who is actually good could look foul. Take that literary philosophical rebuttal!

Targeting the reasonable means that the wolves don't have to be so careful. Your whole line of reasoning is flawed, and more than that, helps the wolves.~Roa

Again, did I say we target the reasonable, and only the reasonable? No. I'm pointing out the confliction between what Inzil said we should do.

I don't think the gifteds, unless for some reason they become revealed to us, should be a concern at all. Let them do their thing, and we'll do ours: getting the wolves.

The conflict with letting gifteds do what they do and we do what we do, is how bad Day 1s have been turning out. Gifteds have an understandable idea that by looking suspicious they are less likely to be wolf meat. What we do is lynch those who look suspicious, thus those we think wolves. Plus with 4 wolves, and they knowing who they are, this makes steering suspicion towards someone else besides one of them all the easier. See any major conflict there?

It is also just as likely, taking Professor Tolkien's advice, that a servant of the enemy would likely appear fair. And on Day 1, those who look like they are making sense, tend to get written off as innocent. Why is reasonableness a sign of innocence? It can be, but it can just as likely be a cunning wolf.

I wish I had more to contribute for the first day? I guess the only thing striking me is how a lot of Boro's arguments lean towards "Don't kill suspicious people, they might be gifted!" followed by backpedaling when someone carries that to it's logical conclusion... To be fair, I'm over simplifying that, and his argument has been fully qualified and then rejoined by people more awake that myself.~Bes

Thanks for pointing out you simplified it, but I wouldn't even call it an exaggeration. I call it all out misleading.

When did I backpedal? I've what anyone has seen happen before, that gifteds have just as much reason to purposefully attract suspicion as wolves have just as much reason to not want it. And that making sense doesn't make one innocent.

Both you and Roa are assuming that I'm on some anti-rationality crusade. I'm not. I'm speaking on Day 1, but too many times already we've been crippled on Day 1 because we simply "let the gifteds do what they need to do and we will do what we need to do?" But there is a major dilemma, because putting those two together has been leading to getting more gifteds lynched on Day 1 than wolves.