One Thing in Common - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mugwump · 11-30-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Maybe it is easier for you to find the answer if you first find something in common for these particular relatives of them...

Which particular relatives of theirs? They each have way too many relatives. I give up.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-30-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugwump

Which particular relatives of theirs? They each have way too many relatives. I give up.

Relatives who (logically of course) have something in common too, like their relationship to Frodo and Nienor. In other words, what do Frodo and Nienor have in common? Well, there was something which made their lives, fates, whatever, similar in the way because they had relatives (who were both "X" to them) and those relatives were both "Y". And that projected back on Frodo and Nienor. Now it probably sounds only far more confusing. Okay, if you think there is no way you could get it from here, I will tell you the names of the particular relatives.

Mugwump · 11-30-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Well ... they had relatives (who were both "X" to them) and those relatives were both "Y". And that projected back on Frodo and Nienor.

Um... f(x,y) = 2x^2 + 3*log(y-1)?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-01-2009, 04:42 AM

Does it mean that I should give the identities of the two relatives?

Mugwump · 12-01-2009, 07:49 AM

Well, I certainly can't figure it out. You say it's unique, but if it's something that a relative of Nienor's had in common with a relative of Frodo's, then you'd be able to say the same thing about Nienor's siblings, Lalaith and Túrin Turambar. And it can't be anything related to Nienor's marriage to Túrin since Frodo never married (at least, not in Middle Earth). So I'm stumped.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-01-2009, 09:03 AM

Okay, it has something to do with the people who raised them (or, "raised") - that is, Bilbo and Morwen, respectively. So it is something that concerns these two (something that, in fact, Bilbo and Morwen have in common) and through them it affects Frodo and Nienor.

Mugwump · 12-01-2009, 03:57 PM

Wow, that's tough... I can't think of anything Biblo and Morwen had in common, save that they both lived in Arda. One was a male, hobbit bachelor with no children who lived in Middle Earth, adopted a great nephew, and passed over to the Uttermost West, and the other was a female human who married and had three children, who lived in Beleriand and was apparently killed by a dragon.

They both met a dragon?

12-01-2009, 04:42 AM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Does it mean that I should give the identities of the two relatives? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-01-2009, 09:03 AM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, it has something to do with the people who raised them (or, "raised") - that is, Bilbo and Morwen, respectively. So it is something that concerns these two (something that, in fact, Bilbo and Morwen have in common) and through them it affects Frodo and Nienor. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-01-2009, 07:49 AM	#5
Mugwump Wight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taconic Mountains Posts: 111	Well, I certainly can't figure it out. You say it's unique, but if it's something that a relative of Nienor's had in common with a relative of Frodo's, then you'd be able to say the same thing about Nienor's siblings, Lalaith and Túrin Turambar. And it can't be anything related to Nienor's marriage to Túrin since Frodo never married (at least, not in Middle Earth). So I'm stumped.

12-01-2009, 03:57 PM	#7
Mugwump Wight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taconic Mountains Posts: 111	Wow, that's tough... I can't think of *anything* Biblo and Morwen had in common, save that they both lived in Arda. One was a male, hobbit bachelor with no children who lived in Middle Earth, adopted a great nephew, and passed over to the Uttermost West, and the other was a female human who married and had three children, who lived in Beleriand and was apparently killed by a dragon. They both met a dragon?