Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Thanks!

And you should start piling up Aedre's anger when she will hear later on that your parents are conspiring for someone to preceed her in inheritance!

Oh nos!!

She will not be happy.

[Mnemosyne]

Thanks, Nog, you just made both our characters' lives even more difficult...

[Groin Redbeard]

Wow, I love all these fantastic posts. Mnemo, Folwren, Nogrod, Fea: ya'll are fantastic. Though I am feeling a bit sorry for Lommy's characters. It is hard when everyone starts ganging up on them. I have always liked Wynflaed and now she is making Athanar show his emotional side. Fantastic! now I feel sympathy with Athanar's plight, I can't wait until tomorrow. I am off to study some famous trials to see how a soldier [Lithor] should act.

[Folwren]

I think if Lithor were really smart, he'd mostly be quiet and just speak when spoken to....and....practically say what he said to Thornden. But you'll probably find that in famous trials, they don't say much.

If I were you, I'd look up court martials.

By the bye, I do not feel sorry for Lommy's characters.

I am so looking forward to Saeryn's reaction to Athanar's idea. Hahahaha.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I am so looking forward to Saeryn's reaction to Athanar's idea. Hahahaha.

That will be interesting indeed!

Heh, Groin: Ceterum censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam..., maybe Cato or Cicero would not be of Lithor's style?

I'm looking forwards to the next day!

In about 20-24 hours from the time stamp of this message I will post the new day to be opened. You have time that long to add anything you wish to add for this day (and of course things can be embedded there afterwards if you suddenly realise something should be added up).

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Heh, Groin: Ceterum censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam..., maybe Cato or Cicero would not be of Lithor's style?

Just noticed this! Ha ha. I had forgotten all about that.

[Folwren]

Groin,

I just read your post....I also just got home (less than an hour ago). I'll have Thornden meet your character as soon as I can write a post, which may be tonight...

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

I have continued the misunderstanding, Legate. You can take this in many comical directions. Love to see what you come up with. Plus, Folwren, I have a response up for Lithor.

[Folwren]

Lithor was in search of Thornden, was he not?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

I have continued the misunderstanding, Legate. You can take this in many comical directions.

Good! I shall see. I now have to study for tomorrow's exam, but if I feel like needing a break, I might try to write something - or tomorrow, if nothing else

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I am so very pleased to be the originator of the distinct displeasure of all of Athanar's biological children.

Now why isn't there an evil smiley?

[Loslote]

I considered posting for Lilige, going down to the kitchens, finding out the news, getting all confused again...but I decided that she would have had food sent up for herself and Aedre. She can get confused tomorrow. She just went to bed tonight.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Degas has too much food for thought. It's bed time. He'll have his Very Important Conversation in the morning.

[Groin Redbeard]

Alright, in the course of my browsing through books I found quite a few cases where Medieval law was put into practice. A lot of it is considered cruel to our modern minds; therefore, I don't know if we would use any of these punishments on Lithor or even Javan. *evil smile* Since ya'll know about the medieval world I am posting what I have found.

In England, those in charge of law and order believed that people would only learn how to behave properly if they feared what would happen to them if they broke the law. Even the ‘smallest’ offences had serious punishments. The authorities feared the poor simply because there were many more poor than rich and any revolt could be potentially damaging - as the Peasants Revolt of 1381 proved.

By the time of Henry II, the system of law in England had been improved because Henry sent out his own judges from London to listen to cases throughout all England’s counties. Each accused person had to go through an ordeal. There were three ordeals:

Here are some interesting superstitions I found. The first is called ordeal by fire. An accused person held a red hot iron bar and walked three paces. His hand was then bandaged and left for three days. If the wound was getting better after three days, you were innocent. If the wound had clearly not got any better, you were guilty. Ordeal by water. An accused person was tied up and thrown into water. If you floated you were guilty of the crime you were accused of (this I found particularly interesting because I know that they used this method in the 17th century all over the, then, thirteen colonies for Witch Trials). Ordeal by combat. This was used by noblemen who had been accused of something. They would fight in combat with their accuser. Whereas, the other options might prove ridiculous to our "sophisticated" modern minds, this one might prove interesting. Whoever won was right. Whoever lost was usually dead at the end of the fight.

In 1215, the Pope decided that priests in England must not help with ordeals. As a result, ordeals were replaced by trials by juries. To start with, these were not popular with the people as they felt that their neighbours might have a grudge against them and use the opportunity of a trial to get their revenge. After 1275, a law was introduced which allowed people to be tortured if they refused to go to trial before a jury.

If you were found guilty of a crime you would expect to face a severe punishment. Thieves had their hands cut off. Women who committed murder were strangled and then burnt. People who illegally hunted in royal parks had their ears cut off and high treason was punishable by being hung, drawn and quartered. There were very few prisons as they cost money and local communities were not prepared to pay for their upkeep. It was cheaper to execute someone for bad crimes or mutilate them and then let them go.

Most towns had a gibbet just outside of it. People were hung on these and their bodies left to rot over the weeks as a warning to others. However, such violent punishments clearly did not put off people. In 1202, the city of Lincoln had 114 murders, 89 violent robberies and 65 people were wounded in fights. Only 2 people were executed for these crimes and it can be concluded that many in Lincoln got away with their crime.