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Pitchwife · 12-13-2009, 04:53 AM

Sorry, no. (And it's not having two names each, either. It's something both of them did.)

Lindolirian · 02-20-2010, 01:05 PM

Both overlooked the evil deeds of a companion's past. Beleg stayed with Turin despite his outlaw ways and Frodo accepted Gollum as a guide despite all his evil.

Pitchwife · 02-20-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindolirian

Both overlooked the evil deeds of a companion's past. Beleg stayed with Turin despite his outlaw ways and Frodo accepted Gollum as a guide despite all his evil.

Ah, I'd almost forgotten about this! Good guess, Lindolirian - actually, this could be a perfectly valid answer, but it's not what I was thinking of. You're very, very close though - it has to do with Túrin and Gollum, respectively. Try to think of specific situations rather than their general attitude towards their companions.

The Might · 03-02-2010, 05:09 AM

Perhaps not only accepting their old deeds, but trying to bring them back to a good path.
Frodo trying to make Gollum remember his old identity as Smeagol and Beleg trying to make Turin return to Doriath.

Pitchwife · 03-02-2010, 08:54 AM

Nothing so complicated. Forget psychology and morals. All I'm looking for is two little episodes, one from LotR, one from the Narn, both having to do with something pretty concrete (as in, visible and touchable). As Bertolt Brecht said, "Grub first, then ethics".

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-02-2010, 11:08 AM

Grub, says you? So is it the lembas-offering episode? "This is a gift from Melian/Galadriel" "Thanks, save it for yourself, nassty master Beleg/Frodo"?

Pitchwife · 03-02-2010, 04:06 PM

It is indeed. Well done, Legate! Your turn.

12-13-2009, 04:53 AM	#1
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Sorry, no. (And it's not having two names each, either. It's something both of them did.) __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

02-20-2010, 01:05 PM	#2
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Both overlooked the evil deeds of a companion's past. Beleg stayed with Turin despite his outlaw ways and Frodo accepted Gollum as a guide despite all his evil. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-02-2010, 05:09 AM	#4
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Perhaps not only accepting their old deeds, but trying to bring them back to a good path. Frodo trying to make Gollum remember his old identity as Smeagol and Beleg trying to make Turin return to Doriath. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-02-2010, 08:54 AM	#5
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Nothing so complicated. Forget psychology and morals. All I'm looking for is two little episodes, one from LotR, one from the Narn, both having to do with something pretty concrete (as in, visible and touchable). As Bertolt Brecht said, "Grub first, then ethics". __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI Last edited by Pitchwife; 03-02-2010 at 08:55 AM. Reason: clarification

03-02-2010, 11:08 AM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Grub, says you? So is it the lembas-offering episode? "This is a gift from Melian/Galadriel" "Thanks, save it for yourself, nassty master Beleg/Frodo"? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-02-2010, 04:06 PM	#7
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	It is indeed. Well done, Legate! Your turn. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI