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Rhugga II · 12-31-2009, 09:38 PM

A couple of things:

The thing that really bothered me about these two fan films - and I like almost everything else about them - was their adherence to Jackson's style. Not just costumes, but music, narration, conception, etc. Even Guillermo del Toro has said he plans to redesign certain elements of Jackson's creation (Wood Elves, Wargs, and Goblins). In Born of Hope the Troll is extremely similar to Jackson's Cave Troll and the Orcs in both are very similar to the Jackson concept. Granted, much of Jackson is derivative of Lee and Howe, but there are other ways to go. I am glad that del Toro plans to bring Hellboy creator Mike Mignola on as a concept artist. In the future, fan films could use some more stylistic originality.

Also, the map in Born of Hope is very close to the old Middle Earth Role Playing Rhudaur map . And, I think you can see Cameth Brin, "The Twisted Hill" and capital of Rhudaur, in the film.

Lastly, wasn't there a First Age fan film that was getting hype a few years back?

Dakêsîntrah · 01-01-2010, 12:07 PM

I really enjoyed this one, much more than "The Hunt for Gollum." Much better done in terms of acting, plot (still rather weak), and dialogue.

One thing that I felt a bit unsure about was the Dunédain's houses. Buildings built out of plank, and window panes made of sticks in the middle of winter? I had imagined they would rather have had those stone huts or hovels, such as the Celts or Vikings. At least possibly something more closer to the Rohan people, with thatched roofs - although we would rather want clear distinction between two very different tribes.

Erendis · 01-13-2010, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dakêsîntrah

I really enjoyed this one, much more than "The Hunt for Gollum." Much better done in terms of acting, plot (still rather weak), and dialogue.

One thing that I felt a bit unsure about was the Dunédain's houses. Buildings built out of plank, and window panes made of sticks in the middle of winter? I had imagined they would rather have had those stone huts or hovels, such as the Celts or Vikings. At least possibly something more closer to the Rohan people, with thatched roofs - although we would rather want clear distinction between two very different tribes.

Come on!What can a rather refreshing cold breeze-below -25 'C-can do to the Western toughies

?

Never said it was THE perfect production.

Airaloske · 01-13-2010, 12:59 PM

well maybe thats why they had Gilraen be more fluffy...had to withstand drafty houses

back in the day full-figured, wide-hipped women were admired and sought after. Meant they could bear many healthy children and still get up to do a full day's housework. Maybe that was also a trait admired by the Dunedain?

Erendis · 01-14-2010, 03:44 PM

Say it,say it!Long live us chubby girls!

skip spence · 01-17-2010, 04:28 PM

Won't say a word about her weight but she certainly blew as a narrator...

Some funny looking Orcs in that film, my favourite being the evil clown/last mohican at 58 something, and that dude with a shrub growing from his ear.

How the Dunedain managed to catch mackerel in inland Eriador I'll never know... And no stockades with all them Orcs marauding...?

Good amateur work though but I feel they could have picked a better part of the stories to film...

Drumolator · 01-28-2010, 06:29 PM

I enjoyed it. But I could not download it into Real Player as I did with The Hunt for Golum. I only want to see it without it stopping several times. Any video I download stays in my computer. I am grateful to those who made it. Peace and goodwill.

12-31-2009, 09:38 PM	#1
Rhugga II Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cameth Brin ("The Twisted Hill") Posts: 21	Born of Hope and The Hunt for Gollum A couple of things: The thing that really bothered me about these two fan films - and I like almost everything else about them - was their adherence to Jackson's style. Not just costumes, but music, narration, conception, etc. Even Guillermo del Toro has said he plans to redesign certain elements of Jackson's creation (Wood Elves, Wargs, and Goblins). In Born of Hope the Troll is extremely similar to Jackson's Cave Troll and the Orcs in both are very similar to the Jackson concept. Granted, much of Jackson is derivative of Lee and Howe, but there are other ways to go. I am glad that del Toro plans to bring Hellboy creator Mike Mignola on as a concept artist. In the future, fan films could use some more stylistic originality. Also, the map in Born of Hope is very close to the old Middle Earth Role Playing Rhudaur map . And, I think you can see Cameth Brin, "The Twisted Hill" and capital of Rhudaur, in the film. Lastly, wasn't there a First Age fan film that was getting hype a few years back?

01-13-2010, 12:59 PM	#4
Airaloske Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bluefield, West Virginia, United States Posts: 43	well maybe thats why they had Gilraen be more fluffy...had to withstand drafty houses back in the day full-figured, wide-hipped women were admired and sought after. Meant they could bear many healthy children and still get up to do a full day's housework. Maybe that was also a trait admired by the Dunedain? __________________ I am never leaving, and I am never looking back.

01-14-2010, 03:44 PM	#5
Erendis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imloth Melui,with Yoreth's sister...Just finished the Panadol stock. Posts: 398	Say it,say it!Long live us chubby girls! __________________ Ah,it's good to be home again!

01-17-2010, 04:28 PM	#6
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Won't say a word about her weight but she certainly blew as a narrator... Some funny looking Orcs in that film, my favourite being the evil clown/last mohican at 58 something, and that dude with a shrub growing from his ear. How the Dunedain managed to catch mackerel in inland Eriador I'll never know... And no stockades with all them Orcs marauding...? Good amateur work though but I feel they could have picked a better part of the stories to film... __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

01-01-2010, 12:07 PM	#2
Dakêsîntrah Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Armenelos Posts: 29	I really enjoyed this one, much more than "The Hunt for Gollum." Much better done in terms of acting, plot (still rather weak), and dialogue. One thing that I felt a bit unsure about was the Dunédain's houses. Buildings built out of plank, and window panes made of sticks in the middle of winter? I had imagined they would rather have had those stone huts or hovels, such as the Celts or Vikings. At least possibly something more closer to the Rohan people, with thatched roofs - although we would rather want clear distinction between two very different tribes.

01-28-2010, 06:29 PM	#7
Drumolator Newly Deceased Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: central Louisiana Posts: 3	I enjoyed it. But I could not download it into Real Player as I did with The Hunt for Golum. I only want to see it without it stopping several times. Any video I download stays in my computer. I am grateful to those who made it. Peace and goodwill.