WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rikae · 01-13-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilwa

I think the Gifteds should feel pretty safe talking to their PM buddies, cause they're probably ords

Hm... interesting. On what do you base your assertion that gifteds won't be paired with wolves? (Or in other words, whee! I'm gifted! Kill me toNight!)

I like the idea of outing the pm-pals. At least it gives us something to talk about, and I definitely need something to restore my enthusiasm over the disappointing turn of the last game. I'll go first - mine is Izzy. You're all free to believe or disbelieve me as you see fit.

Wilwolf, er, Wilwa, who's your PM-pal?

satansaloser2005 · 01-13-2010, 03:44 PM

Hmmmm. I'm not sure I like that idea. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, but I don't see why we necessarily should either. Meh.

The thing that bothers me is that nothing's been said toDay, like at all. If/when I do vote, it will be completely random, and I hate that.

(By the way, I'll be heading to church about three hours before deadline and while I should be back in time to vote I won't guarantee it. So start talking.)

Nogrod · 01-13-2010, 04:02 PM

What a day - and what a Day!

So I only got to the computer now and will have to wake up in about six hours... Well there's not too much to read either. But sadly also little to make a vote on. I must think about it while checking my stuff for tomorrow.

About revealing the pen-pals... hmm. Hard to say as there seems to be no immediate pros or cons: it might help the wolves planning their kills but it might also help us with some possible combinations I think. Needs some thinking as well.

Back soon.

wilwarin538 · 01-13-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Hm... interesting. On what do you base your assertion that gifteds won't be paired with wolves?

I'm not certain, I just personally think it's very likely. In the admin thread Gwath said that wolves could be paired with ords, he didn't say anything about wolves being paired with gifteds. I just think if he thought to clarify the first as being a possibility then if the second was a possibility he would have clarified that as well. Like he could have said "wolves may be paired with ords or gifteds", but he didn't, he just said ords.

And I'm fine if people want to reveal their PM Pals (it was just a suggestion to get discussion started), but I won't say who mine is cause I'm not sure he'd be ok with that, but if he comes on and sees this and wants to say we're PM Pals then he can go ahead and do that, I won't mind.

x'ed with Nog

Inziladun · 01-13-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Hm... interesting. On what do you base your assertion that gifteds won't be paired with wolves? (Or in other words, whee! I'm gifted! Kill me toNight!)

I was wondering the same thing, Wilwa. You're may be right, but I don't know how you could be so sure.

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I like the idea of outing the pm-pals. At least it gives us something to talk about, and I definitely need something to restore my enthusiasm over the disappointing turn of the last game. I'll go first - mine is Izzy. You're all free to believe or disbelieve me as you see fit.

Izzy, hm? Well, I would ask you if she's said anything interesting, or, even better, lupine, but then, how do I know you're not a wolf?

This is why I don't see what this gains us. We're flying blind both ways, here and with our PM Pals.

x/d with Nog and Wilwa

Isabellkya · 01-13-2010, 04:20 PM

Anyone can be paired with anyone. I think I can say that, since I asked Gwath about it; even if it was the first try.

I think the idea of only ordo's being paired with gifteds; is a bit scary of a notion if you actually think about it. Especially if the wolves are capable of sharing that information.

Rikae · 01-13-2010, 04:27 PM

Inzil - nope, nothing. Just trying to get some kind of discussion started here.

Izzy - thank you. It's as I thought, then. I don't really like the way Wilwa encouraged the gifteds to be less cautions based on so little... and yes, if that were true the wolves could eliminate three possible gifteds from their search - good thing it isn't.

I've got some work to do, but I'll be back before deadline.

wilwarin538 · 01-13-2010, 04:45 PM

Alright, well that's good to know for sure then.

I was simply stating what I thought seemed likely to me, the Gifteds didn't have to take me seriously if they didn't agree with me. No one was saying anything so I was just trying to put some stuff out there to get people talking. And I hadn't thought of that angle regarding the Wolves, that does make a lot of sense and I'm glad my theory isn't right.

Anyway, I'll be back a bit later to actually think of who to vote for.

Nogrod · 01-13-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

We're flying blind both ways, here and with our PM Pals.

That's the problem. There can be things we can try and learn about our pen pals as the game goes on but at least now it's probably quite futile. And if we reveal all the pen pals right now it might affect the way the wolves communicate via PM's - and not for the more "readable" direction - well saying this out aloud might have a similar kind of effect as well now as I think of it.

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Originally Posted by Izzy

Anyone can be paired with anyone. I think I can say that, since I asked Gwath about it

That's good to hear. And a good point on why that also needs to be true there Rikae.

Okay. I need to go to sleep. This was a bad Day from me but no can do.

So what to say?

I think Rikae, Inzil and Wilwa are trying to do something which makes me appreciate them and I'm not going to vote anyone of them.

Also I agree on Izzy's earlier point about alona, Sally and Glirdy just complaining the lack of posts and then disappearing without actually trying to do anything to the issue themselves. That is a tactics I tend to always suspect and disapprove of.

Lottie's song would be the classic wolf-opening: "I'm a wolf, I'm a wolf! - heh, only joking..."

Voting this early puts me in no position to vote for someone who has not yet appeared.

A tough call then.

Nogrod · 01-13-2010, 05:17 PM

I don't remember I have made as non-grounded decision as this is ever on werewolf.

I'm not saying Rikae, Inzil & Wilwa are innocents. Probably at least one of them is a wolf (that's just even statistically quite so). But as they clearly play I wouldn't like to see them gone toDay.

For a moment I thought I would not vote at all but as I have shown my contempt for such solutions in earlier games I think I have no other choice but to vote.

So just guts.

++ alona

Yeah alona, I feel like a jerk. In the last game you promised to stand by my side whatever came... and this is how I pay you back.

I hope that you'll manage to get that much discussion going on later toDay that you can use at least some reasoning behind the votes when the Day closes.

Shastanis Althreduin · 01-13-2010, 05:24 PM

Considering that for all intents and purposes we've already been through Day 1, I'm not that surprised at the lack of posts. Honestly, I'm most comfortable voting Wilwa at the moment for that bit about the gifteds being able to trust their PM partners, but even that's flimsy as it could easily be a mistake with the rules (which, as we've already seen, can be finicky).

I probably won't vote Wilwa as a matter of fact, considering she's been the main voice of trying to get people re-interested. I may just have to pull out my Magic 8... uh.... I mean, my crystal ball. Yeah, that's it.

wilwarin538 · 01-13-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

but even that's flimsy as it could easily be a mistake with the rules (which, as we've already seen, can be finicky).

And it was mostly me that was confused last time as well

....so basically I'm gonna stop trying to come up with weird theories and stuff, since they turn out to not make sense and I seem to be the only one that thinks they're even a good idea in the first place. I'm just gonna stick to finding the wolves and not worry about this whole lover dynamic anymore, it's distracting us all from the main goal anyway.

So about that. The posts have started picking up, which is great, but there still isn't really too much to go on regarding suspicions and what not, and still a few people left to show up. So I'll be come on on and off for the next 2ish hours to comment on random things and then I'll have to vote (school in the am, so I can't really stay up that late).

wilwarin538 · 01-13-2010, 07:38 PM

So I need to head to sleep now, it's still fairly early here but I'm exhausted and have to get up crazy early, so I need to vote now.

Still not too much to go on, and nothing really suspicious, but there are a few people who came on and mentioned the lack of posts, and then didn't really do much to get things started (Sally, Alona and Glirdy for example) and Lottie put time into that parody, which was funny, but not really productive. So I'm gonna have to go with one of them....

++Sally

So I need to sleep now. Good luck!

Rikae · 01-13-2010, 07:43 PM

I need to vote soon, but lack much to go on... Wilwa's fishy looking suggestion strikes me as something too obvious for a wolf to actually say, now that I look at it again... I think maybe I'll vote for Glirdan, simply because of the somewhat nervous (?), anxious almost breathless tone of his post. Last time I was a wolf, I remember worrying that my own posts had a similar feel to them - and in the past, I've found an awareness of things like tone has often been more useful than logic in catching wolves.
On the other hand, Glirdan's just coming back to werewolf after a long absence, and it wouldn't be very nice to vote him on Day 1, especially when he can't post for most of the Day. I'll have to give it more thought.

01-13-2010, 04:02 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	What a day - and what a Day! So I only got to the computer now and will have to wake up in about six hours... Well there's not too much to read either. But sadly also little to make a vote on. I must think about it while checking my stuff for tomorrow. About revealing the pen-pals... hmm. Hard to say as there seems to be no immediate pros or cons: it might help the wolves planning their kills but it might also help us with some possible combinations I think. Needs some thinking as well. Back soon. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-13-2010, 04:20 PM	#6
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Anyone can be paired with anyone. I think I can say that, since I asked Gwath about it; even if it was the first try. I think the idea of only ordo's being paired with gifteds; is a bit scary of a notion if you actually think about it. Especially if the wolves are capable of sharing that information. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

01-13-2010, 04:45 PM	#8
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	Alright, well that's good to know for sure then. I was simply stating what I thought seemed likely to me, the Gifteds didn't have to take me seriously if they didn't agree with me. No one was saying anything so I was just trying to put some stuff out there to get people talking. And I hadn't thought of that angle regarding the Wolves, that does make a lot of sense and I'm glad my theory isn't right. Anyway, I'll be back a bit later to actually think of who to vote for. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

01-13-2010, 05:17 PM	#10
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I don't remember I have made as non-grounded decision as this is ever on werewolf. I'm not saying Rikae, Inzil & Wilwa are innocents. Probably at least one of them is a wolf (that's just even statistically quite so). But as they clearly play I wouldn't like to see them gone toDay. For a moment I thought I would not vote at all but as I have shown my contempt for such solutions in earlier games I think I have no other choice but to vote. So just guts. ++ alona Yeah alona, I feel like a jerk. In the last game you promised to stand by my side whatever came... and this is how I pay you back. I hope that you'll manage to get that much discussion going on later toDay that you can use at least some reasoning behind the votes when the Day closes. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-13-2010, 05:24 PM	#11
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Considering that for all intents and purposes we've already been through Day 1, I'm not that surprised at the lack of posts. Honestly, I'm most comfortable voting Wilwa at the moment for that bit about the gifteds being able to trust their PM partners, but even that's flimsy as it could easily be a mistake with the rules (which, as we've already seen, can be finicky). I probably won't vote Wilwa as a matter of fact, considering she's been the main voice of trying to get people re-interested. I may just have to pull out my Magic 8... uh.... I mean, my crystal ball. Yeah, that's it. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

01-13-2010, 03:44 PM	#2
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Hmmmm. I'm not sure I like that idea. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, but I don't see why we necessarily should either. Meh. The thing that bothers me is that nothing's been said toDay, like at all. If/when I do vote, it will be completely random, and I hate that. (By the way, I'll be heading to church about three hours before deadline and while I should be back in time to vote I won't guarantee it. So start talking.) __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

01-13-2010, 04:27 PM	#7
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Inzil - nope, nothing. Just trying to get some kind of discussion started here. Izzy - thank you. It's as I thought, then. I don't really like the way Wilwa encouraged the gifteds to be less cautions based on so little... and yes, if that were true the wolves could eliminate three possible gifteds from their search - good thing it isn't. I've got some work to do, but I'll be back before deadline.

01-13-2010, 07:38 PM	#13
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	So I need to head to sleep now, it's still fairly early here but I'm exhausted and have to get up crazy early, so I need to vote now. Still not too much to go on, and nothing really suspicious, but there are a few people who came on and mentioned the lack of posts, and then didn't really do much to get things started (Sally, Alona and Glirdy for example) and Lottie put time into that parody, which was funny, but not really productive. So I'm gonna have to go with one of them.... ++Sally So I need to sleep now. Good luck! __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

01-13-2010, 07:43 PM	#14
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	I need to vote soon, but lack much to go on... Wilwa's fishy looking suggestion strikes me as something too obvious for a wolf to actually say, now that I look at it again... I think maybe I'll vote for Glirdan, simply because of the somewhat nervous (?), anxious almost breathless tone of his post. Last time I was a wolf, I remember worrying that my own posts had a similar feel to them - and in the past, I've found an awareness of things like tone has often been more useful than logic in catching wolves. On the other hand, Glirdan's just coming back to werewolf after a long absence, and it wouldn't be very nice to vote him on Day 1, especially when he can't post for most of the Day. I'll have to give it more thought.