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Old 01-13-2010, 08:34 PM   #1
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Okay...so....so far we have two votes:

Vote for/ Vote by

1. Alona - Nogrod
2. Sally - Wilwa

Bot are rather safe votes seeing as neither Sally nor Alona have been able to get on to defend themselves, let alone post. However...I do believe that this is mainly due to the time zone differences and thus I am inclined to believe at this point that neither of these to voter's are Wolves. At least not at this time.

Which leaves everyone else.

Sally, Alona, Lottie and Lari have hardly posted at this point in the game. In fact, Lari and Lottie have just posted (good to hear from you by the way ) and I do believe that Sally and Alona will be on sooner or later to defend themselves and also put their input into the conversation.

One person, who is always vocal, has remained rather silent thus far and it makes me rather concerned. Where has Morsul been all Day? He has not posted once which is rather odd.

Izzy makes me rather nervous as well. I have already explained two of my reasons in my previous post. But another reason has come to my attention...yes she has posted rather little, but all of her posts so far have been small posts with really nothing of substance. Sure you can all say that I haven't had many at this point either, but up until this point, I have only had two posts due to prior commitments and no computer opportunities. There is only one post of hers with any substance in it and that is the one where she makes the rather weak argument against those of us who could not be here to participate in discussions. She is one I will most definitely be keeping an eye on.

Rikae has been a rather active participant in the discussions (thank the lord!) raised about our Pen-Pals and has raised some interesting points of her own. I'm inclined to believe she is innocent at this point, and no it's not just because she said she would rather not vote for me...although that is an added plus!

Shasta has been rather quiet as well and seems to have been slipping under everyone's radar. He's had one post and it was to say that we have already been through Day 1....Did we not agree to completely erase the fact that we did that and NOT take that into consideration? I was under the impression we had. Although, he does bring up a rather good point that Wilwa has been the most vocal out of the group toDay. And then he drops us something....

[QUOTE=Shasta]
I may just have to pull out my Magic 8... uh.... I mean, my crystal ball. Yeah, that's it.[QUOTE}

A cryptic clue?? Or a furry tactic to make us think he's innocent? And I would not put it past him of the latter.

Which leaves Zil....I can't seem to get a read on him at this point.....I would like to hear a little more from him before I vote.

So my suspect thus far is Morsul, Izzy and Shasta. But I will wait a little while longer before I cast my vote.

Oh, and X'ed times 2 with Lottie
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:51 PM   #2
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Eek! Just got home from work - both glad and sad at the lack of posts.

Revealing the PM-pals: I somewhat agree with Wilwa, it could cause a lot of confusion. However, if an ordo is paired with a wolf in this game (I was last game - Nog, dear, the vote hurts but I'll forgive you!) and has a suspicion about their PM pal, it might give their suspicions more credibility if we get it all out on Day 1 who is paired with who.

Or it could just cause massive confusion. I don't know. At the moment, I won't reveal unless it's alright with my partner - though he hasn't been on a lot today, either, much like me I'm afraid.

I don't have any solid suspicions at this point, but we'll see. ToDay is extended by two more hours because Gwath has commitments, so maybe something will come out of the woodworks by then?
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Morsul's absence is a bit disconcerting, but I don't see him as voteworthy just yet.
At the moment, I think I'm leaning toward Lottie. No one else really stands out as much at the moment, and her vote for me wasn't very well reasoned, even if it is me saying so. I never said I was for or against the PM-Pal outing, yet she claims I flip-flopped.
There's also the way she seems to be misrepresenting Wilwa's words, as Rikae notes. I'd like to hear from some others though before I decide.

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Glirdan what is your opinion on Wilwa's vote?
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Glirdan what is your opinion on Wilwa's vote?
My answer is in an earlier post of mine actually.

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Both are rather safe votes seeing as neither Sally nor Alona have been able to get on to defend themselves, let alone post. However...I do believe that this is mainly due to the time zone differences and thus I am inclined to believe at this point that neither of these to voter's are Wolves. At least not at this time.
That is my opinion on both Wilwa and Nog. However, seeing as their votes are rather too early to tell anything, there is always the possibility that one of them is a Wolf and I would not put it past either of them for two reasons: 1) Both of their votes are safe. 2) They both voted early, thus eliminating the "They joined the bandwagon" situation.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:56 PM   #6
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Oh, and just to keep the voting updated:

1. Nogrod -------> Alona
2. Wilwa -------> Sally
3. Lottie -------> Zil
4. Rikae -------> Glirdan
5. Zil -------> Lottie



Hmmmm....I just noticed something rather interesting....Lottie and Zil both voted for each other....both have come up with their own reasonings, true.....But could this be a Wolf on Wolf vote to lure us away from believing so?
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Old 01-13-2010, 10:13 PM   #7
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Hmmmm....I just noticed something rather interesting....Lottie and Zil both voted for each other....both have come up with their own reasonings, true.....But could this be a Wolf on Wolf vote to lure us away from believing so?



This caught me as odd... However as I came into something very confusing I thought DL was when a few other people said so those two together made a kind of... ok this is a crappy vote but it's all I got kind of thing...

And if I recall Gwath said no vote retractions.
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Just an update:

1. Nogrod -------> Alona
2. Wilwa -------> Sally
3. Lottie -------> Zil
4. Rikae -------> Glirdan
5. Zil -------> Lottie
6. Izzy -------> Shasta
7. Lari -------> Shasta
8. Morsul -------> Glirdan

I see the validity of what Glirdan was saying about Lottie and Zil, especially since Lottie was the first and pretty much only person to bring up suspicion around Zil and stick with it. Rikae's suspicion of Glirdan seems a little shaky - Glirdan didn't post all that much and what he did post seemed honest.

Lari's vote was last minute, by her own admittance. Nog's vote was probably due to time constraints and Wilwa's vote for Sally seemed like a best guess on Day 1.

Though I've said I don't have that strong of suspicion, Shasta's quiet-ness alone is making me suspicious of him - where have you been toDay, kind sir? Then again, Morsul makes me nervous with his out of nowhere vote for Glirdan. How is what he said about Lottie and Zil suspicious?

I'm leaning towards either Morsul or Shasta at this point. Not much to go on, but it's all I have for Day 1.
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Hmmmm....I just noticed something rather interesting....Lottie and Zil both voted for each other....both have come up with their own reasonings, true.....But could this be a Wolf on Wolf vote to lure us away from believing so?
If it is, I wasn't informed.

I'm on, in case you hadn't noticed by the fact that I posted.
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:32 PM   #11
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So first of all, Alona asked me to rely that she will be at work for the next six hours.

Second I guess I'll try a list because there is nothing much else going on.

Nog: I have no read, and he is absent from the game. I honestly have no idea.

Inzil: PM partner, nothing jumping out.

Shasta: He hasn't said much, is kind of staying away. Whether from lack to time or what but I want to keep my eye on him.

Izzie: Again, no idea. Not really sure what to think.

Rikae: I don't know. She is suspicious of Alona saying they are on the same side and busy. Whether Alona is assuming they are both innocent or just saying a general we are all on the village's side it was an interesting thing to jump on.

Alona: Her arguing with Lottie is a lot like innocent Alona getting annoyed. I'm leaning towards not guilty.

Sally: Reasonably certain she is innocent. As in, right if she was the Night kill then she is innocent.

Lottie: I honestly don't like her logic at all. Most of it is flimsy. I have a really bad feeling about her. It kind of seems like she's a wolf with nothing to do and trying to make sense of it.

Wilwa: Not sure at all again. Really, no idea.

So yeah, a lot of people I have no read on, one who looks rather suspicious, and at least one I want to watch. This is super for Day 2.
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Plgh. I keep thinking that deadline is at nine, not in less than ten minutes.

Ahh, okay. I must've missed that. I suppose I should clarify. What is your opinion on her vote reasoning. As she essentially voted for one whom came online, noticed lack of posts, then didn't contribute to the post count number. Which you are condemning me for mentioning. xD

I've got to vote now.
++Shasta

Somewhat random. I know he can contribute more, Mister!


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Ah! Deadline?!

++Shasta

Really, just pulling a name out here.
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yes Morsul; we started over. The admin thread has more and full details.


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++Glirdan in a deadlock of votes it looks like he's trying to toss some suspicion...
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DL toDay isn't until 10PM PST, guys. Gwath posted on the admin thread.
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So much for mental notes....
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Tie is never mentioned in the thread. however Tradition states in the case of ties the person who First got the votes gets lynched,,, and even if for some unknown reason Both people are lynched I'm still gone... Thirdly... well there is no third.
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Tie is never mentioned in the thread. however Tradition states in the case of ties the person who First got the votes gets lynched,,, and even if for some unknown reason Both people are lynched I'm still gone... Thirdly... well there is no third.
Well some mods do a coin toss, and others (who are weird ) like to do the last person to receive vote count as the lynchee. Each mod is different.


Erm, I feel squicked by this now. I'm going to think for a couple minutes.
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Okay, folks

I face a dilemma.

I'm a bit of a meta-brain by nature and I won't lie about it. I keep meta-stuff out as much as possible, but I can't get rid of it now. Anyway, the point is that I'm trying to decide whether or not to seal Morsul's fate. Here's some questions.

Should we keep him around? If so, why? Why not?
How does the hunter in this game even work? (Obviously a question for Gwath.) Does he take down anyone, or just a wolf?
If he's really the hunter why hasn't he told us his target?
Why did he not speak up sooner? (And did he really have the chance? And should he even?)
Is it completely wrong to lynch him now?
Am I insane? (Please leave this one blank.)

ETA: x'd with Morsul. Am I being a complete cow or is this bothering anyone else? I'm so bloody confused lol.
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Oh screw it

It'll drive me bonkers otherwise.

Morsul, tell us who your pick is at least. If I don't hear a worthwhile case for why I should save you in the next five minutes or so you're dying.
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Erm, hello? Is anyone out there?

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I would not reveal my target because if I did and it were an innocent of course the wolves would kill me anyway.. otherwise they would leave me alone and I know... or think I know a probable wolf. being a revealed huner just might add to your annoyance and most importantly I got three votes within a half hour there was no time to defend myself really...


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I would not reveal my target because if I did and it were an innocent of course the wolves would kill me anyway.. otherwise they would leave me alone and I know... or think I know a probable wolf. being a revealed huner just might add to your annoyance and most importantly I got three votes within a half hour there was no time to defend myself really...


That answer your questions?
Yes, but if you're killed toDay and you've chosen someone and they don't die we have a known innocent, which in a game this small can mean a lot if they're kept alive even for a Day or two. And if you think you've got a wolf you may as well say it because they'll go down with you. You're not helping your case, mate.
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Plgh. I keep thinking that deadline is at nine, not in less than ten minutes.

Ahh, okay. I must've missed that. I suppose I should clarify. What is your opinion on her vote reasoning. As she essentially voted for one whom came online, noticed lack of posts, then didn't contribute to the post count number. Which you are condemning me for mentioning. xD

I've got to vote now.
++Shasta

Somewhat random. I know he can contribute more, Mister!

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Has she ever mentioned Shasta before? Not that I saw, at least, but I could be mistaken. Izzy? Or it's a gutfeeling, random vote, which, although not horrible, isn't great either. Not picking up too much here.

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Ah! Deadline?!

++Shasta

Really, just pulling a name out here.
She didn't cross with Izzy. If dl really was right when she posted, she would have cemented Shasta's death. If it weren't a hasty, random vote, it would look pretty bandwaggony. But it was a hasty and random vote, so I don't know what to think. She later says:

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--Shasta

I don't really want to vote for him, mostly because that was just a "aaaahhhh deadline" decision.
Right. So. What does this mean? She doesn't really want to vote him, and she wasn't on the lynch possibilities list. Maybe a packmate was, though, and though she wanted to save xem, she also didn't want to be suspicious herself.

So for right now, Lari looks suspicious to me, but Izzy doesn't really. Izzy could easily change; Lari not so much.
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