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Old 01-15-2010, 03:08 AM   #1
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It looks from the narration like Sandy was going to get shot, until a person on a motorcycle interceded. Since there was no death, it looks like a Ranger save. It also looks like Sandy aka Sally was the intended target. Then further down it says the personal pronouns are for ease of narration. I assume in regards to the savior biker? Since Sandy was referred to by name, and not by gender alone? Or was the name picked by random, and we're just thirsty for narration information.

All of these pickle references. Talking about them on the thread, and I keep seeing commercials for them. Though for Vlasic, which those are just.. ewww.

I disagree that it would be "in the wolves interest to (at least in the absence of a better kill) get rid of any unwanted attention." in regards to killing their lovers. It seems like a mighty large trail that they would be leaving behind. I can't imagine them being such generous (and obvious,) Hansel and Gretels.

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Izzy, hm? Well, I would ask you if she's said anything interesting, or, even better, lupine, but then, how do I know you're not a wolf?
This is why I don't see what this gains us. We're flying blind both ways, here and with our PM Pals.

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Questioning how Wilwa knew there would be no wolf/gifted pairings; banter with Izzy. This also says nothing. "You're maybe right, but I don't know how you could be so sure." Maybe, but maybe not.
That wasn't banter with me. That was towards Rikae and her reveal of the two of us as lovers/PMPals.

My vote upon Shasta was half random and half tradition. I didn't have a suspect, and I didn't want to vote for someone whom already had a vote. Day ones don't really come with loads of information, especially slow days - so they are essentially random. So somewhere along the werewolf playing line, voting for Shasta on day one became a tradition, a habit. Not one hundred percent of the time, but a high percentage.

If Sally was indeed the target for the wolves, then it pretty much clears her as being one of them. Wolves don't attack their mates during the Night. At least, I can't recall it ever happening purposely.. Here, we don't have Bus Drivers and list switchers, so that rules out that option.

I took what Inziladun said, as looking at what Sally said on Day One, to see what would've made her a tasty looking morsel for the wolves?


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Have to say I think the Ranger save last Night gives us a shot at winning this game! And besides, who would keep us all entertained around here if Sally were gone?

- I assume you are saying that Sally was the wolves' choice?

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Second, how do you know that Sally was the Night 2 kill choice? Where is the evidence for this?


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Ah, okay I guess the narration gave this away, as Shasta pointed out. But I'm sitting with Lari here right now and she tells me that narrations generally don't point out specifically who the attempted Night kill was...however, this might be a different situation, as we've all been finding out.


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Old 01-15-2010, 03:14 AM   #2
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Have we stepped into the Twilight Zone?
I just noticed that Nog has the least amount of posts in the thread.
Is he going to have to Nilp himself via his submarine philosophy?
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:18 AM   #3
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Have we stepped into the Twilight Zone?
I just noticed that Nog has the least amount of posts in the thread.
Is he going to have to Nilp himself via his submarine philosophy?
Seeing as it's Day 2, he might just be saved. Otherwise, I guess I would have to say goodbye to my former Lover...
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:55 AM   #4
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I did not misrepresent Wilwa's words. In the post where she suggested revealing pm pals, she also considered fake revealing or voting herself. In my mind, that counts a joking.
Exactly.


So we're revealing Lovers then, well anyone who read yesterday's posts closely would already know this:

Wilwa/Morsul

I really wish I had not been so exhausted and could have stayed up. Cause Morsul had told me his role earlier in the day, I may have been able to stop people voting him if I had been around.


So Sally as the kill choice then, well thank you Ranger! I suppose with such a small village the chance of a Ranger save is more likely, which is wonderful. Usually wolves try and go for a *safe* kill choice on Night 1, and I'm sure there were some who qualified as such. But Sally does still kinda make sense as a kill choice, it could be that the wolves were trying to set up Shasta, which would make Shasta look innocent. Or he's just being sneaky by doing something obvious, knowing we'd think it was too obvious and think him innocent. And the fact that he's upset about Alona revealing they're Lovers is kinda odd, I don't really see it as being that big of deal.

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Old 01-15-2010, 08:28 AM   #5
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If I was a wolf I'd kill off my lover, to be honest. I mean, really. A seer lover would likely want to dream their partner, so it's in the wolves interest to (at least in the absence of a better kill) get rid of any unwanted attention. So my theory is that if we know everyone's lovers maybe we'll be able to figure out at least some sort of pattern in yesterDay's activities.
I don't quite see the logic here. I agree that a Seer would be likely to dream their partner early on, if not first, but the odds are against the Seer being paired with a wolf. The wolves might be happy to be rid of a partner that could glean useful information about them, but they might also be thinking they could mainipulate their partner to their advantage. But, since you already know mine is Lari, it's a moot point.

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Is happy about the Ranger save and says the first thing is to establish why they were after Sally. Wants to look at the dl stuff. Honestly, that doesn't seem all that helpful to me, since at the dl it was just Sally and Morsul, and they're both cleared already.
Obviously there was some reason she was targeted. Even though Morsul and Glirdan are gone, and both were innocent, you don't see the sense in looking for anything a wolf might have keyed in on? It was worth a try, at least.

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As for knowing who was the attempted Night kill I want to hear back from Gwath. Yes, it was Sally's character, but does that really mean she was the Night kill or was Gwath using the name for narration.
I never considered Sandy might not refer to Sally. Both Glirdan and Morsul were referred to in-character in their narration, so why would that not be the case with Sally?
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:17 AM   #6
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Since nothing is happening I'm just gonna make a list...

Sally: very likely innocent

Shasta: makes me a bit uneasy, it seems like a Sally kill could have been an obvious attempt to set him up, and so I see it as possible that he was trying to set himself up to look good (I know that's a big stretch, I won't base a vote purely on that). And him not liking Alona revealing thier Loverness is kinda odd, since it isn't really that big a deal at this point.

Alona: sits quite well with me, I like that she posts so much

Rikae: is intense, and very Rikae-like, so I'm fairly good so far (I can't get over how different she is in RL)

Izzy: is completely under my radar, which is usual for me, so I'll try and pay closer attention for her

Nog: hasn't really been around much, so I don't know

Lottie: feel quite good about her today, I like her abundance of posts

Inzil: he makes me uneasy, but that's more of a feeling then anything else

Lari: her vote yesterday was a bit weird, but I get that at the time she thought it was deadline, so I'm not too worried


So......I don't really have much right now. I need posts people.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:01 PM   #7
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Mostly it's that the inclusion of Lovers into this game had such possibility, and now there's really no point to it. Kind of ruins one of Gwath's game mechanics. For example, had lovers not been revealed, and I'd been the Seer, I could have easily funneled my dreams through Alona without revealing myself.

Sally, I'm not even seeing what knowing whose lover is who is going to tell us, considering wolves can be paired with innocents. What was your point in making everyone reveal?
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Because Inzil stated in post #99 that Sally was the intended kill. At the time, I went with it. My debate with Lottie about Sally's innocence didn't spark up for a few hours later and, if you'll forgive me, I'm battling less-than-great RL issues and a barking cough at the moment. I think I forgot about my witty banter post at the beginning of the Day. My memory is terrible on a good day - Lari can attest to this.
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