Ian McKellen says filming for the Hobbit to begin in June! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mnemosyne · 03-29-2010, 11:40 PM

Regarding the subject line... maybe not...

McKellen's website has updated so that the date is, once again, more indeterminate.

The Might · 03-30-2010, 03:50 AM

I don't think a two-part Hobbit would turn out well.
You simply don't have enough going on to keep the story going. Unless you have a big intro to it with stuff like Smaug attacking Erebor or the Battle of Azanulzibar in a prequel film and then the Hobbit.

Tuor in Gondolin · 03-30-2010, 08:33 AM

I tend to think a two-part Hobbit would work well both
artistically and financially. One of the problems PJ had
with the lotr films was arguing for longer ones, a 2 part
Hobbit could be in the two hour + range each, making
movie theaters very happy by, of course, ensuring more
playing times per screen. And if you put in the White Council
meeting and attacking Dol Guldur there's plenty of material
for two films. Among other seperate scenes you'd have An
Unexpected Party, the trolls, Rivendell, The Goblin King Incident,
wolves glade, eagles aerie, Beorn, the Enchanted Stream, trudge
through the forest plus Bilbo tree climbing, elves partay,
giant spider fight, etc. etc.

A good cutoff point could be Thorin and Co. entering Mirkwood
while the White Council invests Dol Guldur and that conflict begins.

P.S. I do like The Might's ideas above. the one really good of PJ's lotrs (FoTR)
was helped immeasurably by that prequel, and, since Gollum only has
one scene in the book you could bookend appearances at the beginning of Part I
and ending of Part II (with Gollum emerging and vowing to find The Precious
and get Thief Baggins.

P.P.S. A scene with Smaug attacking The Lonely Mountain while someone
recites the early version of the poem would be really cool (although a hot time
for the dwarves).

P.P.P.S. While it rather stretches time and geography (like that would stop PJ) you might even
have Gollum peeking out of the Misty Mountains and watching one of Smaug's strafing runs.

wilwarin538 · 03-30-2010, 08:40 AM

I'm quite excited at the idea of a two parter, I hadn't realised that was the plan!!! Cool.

And the 3D, I think it depends, when it's simply used to add some more depth to the shots it looks really cool once you get used to the glasses, but if it's the type where they have stuff popping out at you all the time then that could be annoying. But usually you have the option to go see it without the 3D (at least at my theatre you do), so if people don't want to they don't have too. I think it would be cool though. I'm terribly excited, I've been waiting for this movie for so long!

Eldy · 04-02-2010, 10:54 PM

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Ian McKellen says filming for the Hobbit to begin in June!

Interestingly, McKellen's site was recently changed to say that there is not yet a filming date. I assume that someone told him not to get ahead of things.

Mithalwen · 04-22-2010, 06:18 AM

I heard yesterday that the next James Bond film is being delayed for financial reasons - I know it is a different company and probably potentially a bigger budget.. but if James Bond of all things is delayed then it doesn't bode well for the Hobbit getting going soon.

Eldy · 04-23-2010, 07:29 PM

It's been made clear repeatedly that MGM's financial situation is holding up The Hobbit. Since they hold half the rights they're pretty much necessary for financing, but with them three billion dollars in debt, they're not in a position to finance anything.

03-29-2010, 11:40 PM	#1
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Regarding the subject line... maybe not... McKellen's website has updated so that the date is, once again, more indeterminate. __________________ Got corsets?

03-30-2010, 03:50 AM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I don't think a two-part Hobbit would turn out well. You simply don't have enough going on to keep the story going. Unless you have a big intro to it with stuff like Smaug attacking Erebor or the Battle of Azanulzibar in a prequel film and then the Hobbit. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-30-2010, 08:33 AM	#3
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	I tend to think a two-part Hobbit would work well both artistically and financially. One of the problems PJ had with the lotr films was arguing for longer ones, a 2 part Hobbit could be in the two hour + range each, making movie theaters very happy by, of course, ensuring more playing times per screen. And if you put in the White Council meeting and attacking Dol Guldur there's plenty of material for two films. Among other seperate scenes you'd have An Unexpected Party, the trolls, Rivendell, The Goblin King Incident, wolves glade, eagles aerie, Beorn, the Enchanted Stream, trudge through the forest plus Bilbo tree climbing, elves partay, giant spider fight, etc. etc. A good cutoff point could be Thorin and Co. entering Mirkwood while the White Council invests Dol Guldur and that conflict begins. P.S. I do like The Might's ideas above. the one really good of PJ's lotrs (FoTR) was helped immeasurably by that prequel, and, since Gollum only has one scene in the book you could bookend appearances at the beginning of Part I and ending of Part II (with Gollum emerging and vowing to find The Precious and get Thief Baggins. P.P.S. A scene with Smaug attacking The Lonely Mountain while someone recites the early version of the poem would be really cool (although a hot time for the dwarves). P.P.P.S. While it rather stretches time and geography (like that would stop PJ) you might even have Gollum peeking out of the Misty Mountains and watching one of Smaug's strafing runs. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.' Last edited by Tuor in Gondolin; 03-30-2010 at 08:42 AM.

03-30-2010, 08:40 AM	#4
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	I'm quite excited at the idea of a two parter, I hadn't realised that was the plan!!! Cool. And the 3D, I think it depends, when it's simply used to add some more depth to the shots it looks really cool once you get used to the glasses, but if it's the type where they have stuff popping out at you all the time then that could be annoying. But usually you have the option to go see it without the 3D (at least at my theatre you do), so if people don't want to they don't have too. I think it would be cool though. I'm terribly excited, I've been waiting for this movie for so long! __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

04-22-2010, 06:18 AM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I heard yesterday that the next James Bond film is being delayed for financial reasons - I know it is a different company and probably potentially a bigger budget.. but if James Bond of all things is delayed then it doesn't bode well for the Hobbit getting going soon. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-23-2010, 07:29 PM	#7
Eldy Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Maryland, United States Posts: 22	It's been made clear repeatedly that MGM's financial situation is holding up The Hobbit. Since they hold half the rights they're pretty much necessary for financing, but with them three billion dollars in debt, they're not in a position to finance anything.