WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

skip spence · 04-08-2010, 04:18 PM

Almost forgot to vote.

++Fea

(don't know how to make that red)

Explanation to be found in earlier post. Good night!

Nogrod · 04-08-2010, 04:24 PM

Skip: take the B from the brackets of bolding off and write highlight instead of the B's.

satansaloser2005 · 04-08-2010, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip spence

Almost forgot to vote.

++Fea

(don't know how to make that red)

Explanation to be found in earlier post. Good night!

Skippy (hehe!):

Instead of the B in the tag, type highlight. Easy as pie (in your eye). ^_^

EDIT: D'oh. x'd with Noggins, who was also using his noggin.

Nogrod · 04-08-2010, 05:12 PM

(~~~) *grin emerging*

Getting too late... so just in brief.

Glirdan – Mad Hatter
Seems more suspicious than not but then again that's a way-long tradition with me. I just don't get his way of playing with nothing said. Annoying.

Wintywinty – Tweedledum
Newbie-pass, but should really pull himself together on D2.

Boro88 – the Caterpillar
I will not vote him without a good reason on D1 but I am a little concerned about his "minimum-effort fly-through".

Isabellkya – White Rabbit
Her first post was like a breeze of fresh air. The only one I'm more or less confident in trusting. Stress on the words "more or less".

Mira – March Hare
I'm not sure if making her a primary suspect was a bit far-fetched but it was not from thin air either. Hard to say. Could be the sneaky wolf trying to fly under everyone's radar, but voting her would be quite a shot in the dark anyway.

Sally – the Dormouse
I never get her. First I thought she was more careful than normally (I think someone mentioned that early on the Day and that made me look at her that way) but now I'm more or less without an opinion. She's one of the "followers" though: retrackies & the newest "against Lottie band-wagon"...

An intermediate thought: heh, lots of people suspected Lottie but the table seems to have turned and now the "following" is taking the opposite opinion - although interestingly enough some still went with her; so is it brave and sincere or brave and cunning? Seeing the tide turning one must say that deciding to vote for her (Greenie, Legate, at least) were quite daring - looking at the change of the general mood.

Agan – Queen of Hearts
I see she is enjoying her first game in a year and would feel bad urging to lynch her - but she's no cutie when a wolf, even if she knows how to appear as one. There are things that bother me but not enough to really suspect her at this point.

Inzil – King of Hearts
His explanations on the issue I rose, well the way he made them, look somewhat more innocent than not. Then again his need to use most of his time defending and thus talking very little of other things beside that defence makes me a bit worried still.

Shasta – Knave of Hearts
When do I ever learn to read him? But his jump on Morsul looks a bit bad indeed.

Lottie – Duchess
I still think she is suspicious but looking at how many others think the same makes me wonder whether it would be that easy.

Nerwen – the Dodo
Mainly speaks sense and thus is dangerous unless one has reason not to suspect her. The tiny row with Agan was just creepy - like someone said (Legate?): let's pray it was not a wolf-on-wolf.

Legate – Jabberwocky
Mainly speaks sense and thus is dangerous unless one has reason not to suspect him.

Morsul – the Mock Turtle
He looks so darn suspicious but then again he looks so much like the normal Morsul. I'd say voting him is more like trying to find an easy target on D1.

Nienna – White Queen
No idea.

Fea – Red Queen
Because of her actions I had to check the rules on whether the cursed knows about her/his status. Well the cursed does not know it so there goes the theory. I find it interesting she picked Lottie (which was that early exactly my spotting as well - many things have changed after that though), but also this one made me worried: "But We're so stylish!" (post #47) So if not the cursed then maybe the cobbler sending hints? Or then just toying around and having fun?

Skip – Humpty Dumpty
Not only a "newbie-card" for D1 but also I think he has been making a lot of sense.

Lommy – the Gryphon
Oh my. Why can't I bee the seer again and just check her?

Greenie – White Knight
I didn't like her vote and the grounds for it - but then as RL information I must say that she really has had quite a day of her life (her music diploma performance) and I could understand she was not into concentrating to this like 100%...

Brinniel – Tweedledee
Reasonable and scary. As always.

Looks like a headache before going to sleep...

(~~~) *grin emerging*

(~~~) *grin re-emerging*

EDIT: X'd with a few...

(~~~) *grin vanishing*

Shastanis Althreduin · 04-08-2010, 05:25 PM

Ah, there's the Nogrod we know and love, misinterpreting mistakes again.

In any case, the deadline seems to be 8:30 my time, so I'll need to vote within the next few minutes. I need to re-read a bit.

Shastanis Althreduin · 04-08-2010, 05:28 PM

++Greenie

I don't like bandwagons, I don't like lynching Lottie first constantly, I don't see what's so suspicious about her, and I especially don't like votes made apologetically.

Knave out!

satansaloser2005 · 04-08-2010, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

++Greenie

I don't like bandwagons, I don't like lynching Lottie first constantly, I don't see what's so suspicious about her, and I especially don't like votes made apologetically.

Knave out!

Now that was unexpected....

Isabellkya · 04-08-2010, 06:38 PM

Do you want Loslote to remain around, because you think her more innocent than suspicious, Sally? Or... you'd prefer an innocent to go before your wolfmate?

That wink for your reasoning is ooooooooodd.

What do you mean by spotted, Nog?

Inziladun I find is being more agreeable that previously.

I would not necessarily say that Fea's vote drew a lot of attention and thus was reckless for a wolf. Sure, people discussed it.. but so far two people have voted for her? One which may or may not even count as it was not highlighted.

Why Mira? You said the Loslote voters were more worrying, so how does Mira out worry them?

Glirdan - I always fall under 'submarine'. I might as well get it tattooed on my forehead. xD

Nienna · 04-08-2010, 05:26 PM

I'm here but with absolutely no idea who to vote for.

I won't be voting for:
Lottie - suspicious bandwagon
WinWin - Newbie
Skip - can have a newbie pass too
Agan - hasn't played in foreverz
Boro, Nog, Nerwen, Greenie, Izzy - seem quite reasonable at the moment
Sally - I can usually read her pretty well and I'm not getting alarm bells yet... but we shall see
Mira - she seems very innocent-Mira at the moment
Fea - is being Fea and I know she's busy
Morsul - is being Morsul

Which leaves:
Lommy - I suspect her because she suspects me... this seems like something that always happens when we play together
Glirdy - no read as of yet
Zil - no read
Shasta - no real read but no good feelings either
Legate - jumped on the Lottie bandwaggon
Brinn - hmmm she seems like she is forcing normalcy... but I can't really tell

wilwarin538 · 04-08-2010, 05:31 PM

I greatly love all those who have made vote tallies. You are the bestest.

satansaloser2005 · 04-08-2010, 05:32 PM

I'm quite concerned with Legate's vote. I suspected Lottie before I even registered that people had been poking at her a lot, and he just seems to want to come along for the ride. It's very disconcerting.

Also, my mother called, so now I didn't get to do anything. Rubbish.

I have to vote in like ten minutes too.

Nogrod · 04-08-2010, 05:43 PM

(~~~) *grin emerging*

Time for the cat to lay on top of the oven for the night...

No clear choices but some ideas to be sure.

Now I still don't like the fact that Fea spotted Lottie that early - and did what she did. I thought there was something fishy in Lottie's first poems but I couldn't say what. Then Fea goes to just vote her, like if she saw the same?

And then there was this "But We're so stylish!" -response to Brinn's post about Fea not needing to be the trendsetter. (Okay, playing the Queen addressing herself in plural, sure, but too good a chance to be missed?)

Actually Lottie answered that Brinn's initial comment with: "Fea does have to be a trendsetter. There is no question about that."

Okay RL-mates bantering, possibly... but to me this looks more sinister. I mean the banter comes only afterwards and that is always a bad sign. Also, it looks like trying to reach a hand to the other side, so a cobbler and a wolf probing each other?

This is the best I can do now.

The question becomes whom to vote...

I just dislike this Lottie-wagon (too much opportunism involved).

I dislike Lottie being lynched on D1 like a rule.

I think Fea was the initiator. We might be wrong with them but I think we have a better case with Fea. Well I suspect her more.

Which doesn't mean I think Lottie is innocent.

Or to have an idea who is a wolf and who's a cobbler. It could go both ways.

So let's make it:

++ Fea

How people will react to this setting of two votes to four might also tell us a thing or two tomorrow...

(~~~) *grin vanishing*

(~~~) *grin re-emerging*

EDIT: X'd with Sally...

(~~~) *grin vanishing for good*

Brinniel · 04-08-2010, 04:45 PM

I agree that this Lottie bandwagon doesn't look great. I'm still a bit confused as to why she looks so suspicious. From what I'm getting, it's because of her silly behaviour*, which tends to be a popular reason for a Day One vote, though more often than not that person turns out innocent. I can't really say yet if anyone who's part of the bandwagon is necessarily suspicious. There could be a wolf among them (4 voters now, right?), but there's also a good chance that all of them are just lazy and taking the easy route in terms of voting.

I'd like to avoid this bandwagon, but let's all be careful about creating a second bandwagon too. Often a second bandwagon formed due to the disliking of the first can end up being just as disastrous, if not more when it's done last minute.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

A retraction is a good idea when you are not sure you can be back before the DL and need to vote just to be sure you vote - and then you suddenly are able to come back and major things have happened meanwhile.

That's exactly why I'd rather like to keep my retraction. With my limited time schedule, there's a good chance something like this could happen, so I'd rather not waste it. Yes, retractions can be helpful to the wolves, but they can also be helpful to innocents.

*Correct me if I'm wrong. I admit I'm not reading posts thoroughly because I'm multi-tasking with schoolwork, so I could easily be missing something here.

04-08-2010, 04:18 PM	#1
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Almost forgot to vote. ++Fea (don't know how to make that red) Explanation to be found in earlier post. Good night! __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

04-08-2010, 04:24 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Skip: take the B from the brackets of bolding off and write highlight instead of the B's. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

04-08-2010, 05:25 PM	#5
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Ah, there's the Nogrod we know and love, misinterpreting mistakes again. In any case, the deadline seems to be 8:30 my time, so I'll need to vote within the next few minutes. I need to re-read a bit. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

04-08-2010, 05:28 PM	#6
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	++Greenie I don't like bandwagons, I don't like lynching Lottie first constantly, I don't see what's so suspicious about her, and I especially don't like votes made apologetically. Knave out! __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

04-08-2010, 06:38 PM	#8
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Do you want Loslote to remain around, because you think her more innocent than suspicious, Sally? Or... you'd prefer an innocent to go before your wolfmate? That wink for your reasoning is ooooooooodd. What do you mean by spotted, Nog? Inziladun I find is being more agreeable that previously. I would not necessarily say that Fea's vote drew a lot of attention and thus was reckless for a wolf. Sure, people discussed it.. but so far two people have voted for her? One which may or may not even count as it was not highlighted. Why Mira? You said the Loslote voters were more worrying, so how does Mira out worry them? Glirdan - I always fall under 'submarine'. I might as well get it tattooed on my forehead. xD __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

04-08-2010, 05:12 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	(~~~) grin emerging Getting too late... so just in brief. Glirdan – Mad Hatter Seems more suspicious than not but then again that's a way-long tradition with me. I just don't get his way of playing with nothing said. Annoying. Wintywinty – Tweedledum Newbie-pass, but should really pull himself together on D2. Boro88 – the Caterpillar I will not vote him without a good reason on D1 but I am a little concerned about his "minimum-effort fly-through". Isabellkya – White Rabbit Her first post was like a breeze of fresh air. The only one I'm more or less confident in trusting. Stress on the words "more or less". Mira – March Hare I'm not sure if making her a primary suspect was a bit far-fetched but it was not from thin air either. Hard to say. Could be the sneaky wolf trying to fly under everyone's radar, but voting her would be quite a shot in the dark anyway. Sally – the Dormouse I never get her. First I thought she was more careful than normally (I think someone mentioned that early on the Day and that made me look at her that way) but now I'm more or less without an opinion. She's one of the "followers" though: retrackies & the newest "against Lottie band-wagon"... An intermediate thought: heh, lots of people suspected Lottie but the table seems to have turned and now the "following" is taking the opposite opinion - although interestingly enough some still went with her; so is it brave and sincere or brave and cunning? Seeing the tide turning one must say that deciding to vote for her (Greenie, Legate, at least) were quite daring - looking at the change of the general mood. Agan – Queen of Hearts I see she is enjoying her first game in a year and would feel bad urging to lynch her - but she's no cutie when a wolf, even if she knows how to appear as one. There are things that bother me but not enough to really suspect her at this point. Inzil – King of Hearts His explanations on the issue I rose, well the way he made them, look somewhat more innocent than not. Then again his need to use most of his time defending and thus talking very little of other things beside that defence makes me a bit worried still. Shasta – Knave of Hearts When do I ever learn to read him? But his jump on Morsul looks a bit bad indeed. Lottie – Duchess I still think she is suspicious but looking at how many others think the same makes me wonder whether it would be that easy. Nerwen – the Dodo Mainly speaks sense and thus is dangerous unless one has reason not to suspect her. The tiny row with Agan was just creepy - like someone said (Legate?): let's pray it was not a wolf-on-wolf. Legate – Jabberwocky Mainly speaks sense and thus is dangerous unless one has reason not to suspect him. Morsul – the Mock Turtle He looks so darn suspicious but then again he looks so much like the normal Morsul. I'd say voting him is more like trying to find an easy target on D1. Nienna – White Queen No idea. Fea – Red Queen Because of her actions I had to check the rules on whether the cursed knows about her/his status. Well the cursed does not know it so there goes the theory. I find it interesting she picked Lottie (which was that early exactly my spotting as well - many things have changed after that though), but also this one made me worried: "But We're so stylish!" (post #47) So if not the cursed then maybe the cobbler sending hints? Or then just toying around and having fun? Skip – Humpty Dumpty Not only a "newbie-card" for D1 but also I think he has been making a lot of sense. Lommy – the Gryphon Oh my. Why can't I bee the seer again and just check her? Greenie – White Knight I didn't like her vote and the grounds for it - but then as RL information I must say that she really has had quite a day of her life (her music diploma performance) and I could understand she was not into concentrating to this like 100%... Brinniel – Tweedledee Reasonable and scary. As always. Looks like a headache before going to sleep... (~~~) grin emerging (~~~) grin re-emerging EDIT: X'd with a few... (~~~) grin vanishing __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

04-08-2010, 05:26 PM	#9
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	I'm here but with absolutely no idea who to vote for. I won't be voting for: Lottie - suspicious bandwagon WinWin - Newbie Skip - can have a newbie pass too Agan - hasn't played in foreverz Boro, Nog, Nerwen, Greenie, Izzy - seem quite reasonable at the moment Sally - I can usually read her pretty well and I'm not getting alarm bells yet... but we shall see Mira - she seems very innocent-Mira at the moment Fea - is being Fea and I know she's busy Morsul - is being Morsul Which leaves: Lommy - I suspect her because she suspects me... this seems like something that always happens when we play together Glirdy - no read as of yet Zil - no read Shasta - no real read but no good feelings either Legate - jumped on the Lottie bandwaggon Brinn - hmmm she seems like she is forcing normalcy... but I can't really tell __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

04-08-2010, 05:31 PM	#10
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	I greatly love all those who have made vote tallies. You are the bestest. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

04-08-2010, 05:32 PM	#11
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I'm quite concerned with Legate's vote. I suspected Lottie before I even registered that people had been poking at her a lot, and he just seems to want to come along for the ride. It's very disconcerting. Also, my mother called, so now I didn't get to do anything. Rubbish. I have to vote in like ten minutes too. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

04-08-2010, 05:43 PM	#12
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	(~~~) grin emerging Time for the cat to lay on top of the oven for the night... No clear choices but some ideas to be sure. Now I still don't like the fact that Fea spotted Lottie that early - and did what she did. I thought there was something fishy in Lottie's first poems but I couldn't say what. Then Fea goes to just vote her, like if she saw the same? And then there was this "But We're so stylish!" -response to Brinn's post about Fea not needing to be the trendsetter. (Okay, playing the Queen addressing herself in plural, sure, but too good a chance to be missed?) Actually Lottie answered that Brinn's initial comment with: "Fea does have to be a trendsetter. There is no question about that." Okay RL-mates bantering, possibly... but to me this looks more sinister. I mean the banter comes only afterwards and that is always a bad sign. Also, it looks like trying to reach a hand to the other side, so a cobbler and a wolf probing each other? This is the best I can do now. The question becomes whom to vote... I just dislike this Lottie-wagon (too much opportunism involved). I dislike Lottie being lynched on D1 like a rule. I think Fea was the initiator. We might be wrong with them but I think we have a better case with Fea. Well I suspect her more. Which doesn't mean I think Lottie is innocent. Or to have an idea who is a wolf and who's a cobbler. It could go both ways. So let's make it: ++ Fea How people will react to this setting of two votes to four might also tell us a thing or two tomorrow... (~~~) grin vanishing (~~~) grin re-emerging EDIT: X'd with Sally... (~~~) grin vanishing for good __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 04-08-2010 at 05:47 PM. Reason: corrected the "we might be wrong..." sentence to make sense.