WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here

[skip spence]

So either we have Morsul the Martyr or Morsul the Desperate Lone Wolf? Voting on him does seems like a win-win scenario and at the moment I'm willing to oblige.

But I'm also concerned about the lack of other serious candidates.

And Agan, wouldn't you save yourself by retracting and re-voting if you had the chance and it was your only chance? Regardless of the role?

Edit: To clarify, an innocent saving himself from being lynched by re-voting may also get the real wolf lynched and thus be good for the village.

[Aganzir]

Yeah Morsul wouldn't have thought so?

Originally Posted by skip spence

Voting on him does seems like a win-win scenario and at the moment I'm willing to oblige.

To me it doesn't because I believe we have a chance of getting a baddie (Nerwen)... And that reasoning would totally make me suspect you (skipwolf just wants an easy lynch!) if it wasn't for other things that make me think you more innocentish.

And Agan, wouldn't you save yourself by retracting and re-voting if you had the chance and it was your only chance? Regardless of the role?

Maybe but not necessarily. It would depend on the situation.

FYI, I'm trying to go through Nog's interactions with others in order to supplement Lommy's extensive wolf post analysis (mainly because I think it was a darn good way to do it ). However I'd love to go to sleep in half an hour so it might be I don't have to complete it.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Here and reading, and can I just say I don't like how everyone is dismissing Morsul simply because of the way he acts? People change the ways they act all the time.

Alright then.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Alright, I've seen a few things in Morsul's posts that are making me think something interesting.

++Morsul

I should be around (but distracted) for the next two hours or so, if something comes up.

[Morsul the Dark]

Shasta I wonder what was interesting in my posts that you saw. But hey good vote.

Here's a thought... there are 7 ordos left YAY! but one is cursed they don't even know they're cursed I certainly hope we get us a wolf... But if not maybe the unicorn(we have a chance of getting our folks back) or cursed the las wolf truely is alone

Oh and one more thing Shasta has good reasoning and I think she's innocent.

Skip on the other hand would be happy to oblige my easy lynch. Jumping on a bit of bait?

--Morsul
++Skip

[Aganzir]

++Nerwen

For reasons already explained.

I'll be around at least until I've done the Nog thingy... However I don't think I'll analyse it any further than that (sorry but I need my sleep, even if it's weekend) but at least it's there in case somebody else has more time and energy.

[skip spence]

Alright.

++Morsul

Better him than me (apart from what I've already said)!

Going out now for a bit but might be back briefly in a couple of hours.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, back. I didn't read deeply the Nerwen-Agan-whatnot-whatever disputes, so I am going to reread them again properly to see what was going on there. Meanwhile, comment on other posts:

Originally Posted by Mirandir

In the meantime, I've been trying to figure out what Morsul is trying to accomplish by voting for himself. Yes, it makes sense if he is innocent to want to get rid of suspicion on him to focus on a wolf. However, if he is indeed innocent he's only hurting the village by encouraging us to kill him and give the wolves a leg up. If the cobbler wasn't already dead, he'd be my main suspect.

If he is a wolf, though, voting for himself to make it look like he has nothing to lose is something of an intelligent strategy. However, it casts a lot of suspicion on his actions in general.

So this pretty much boils down to I have no idea what to think. I'm leaning toward innocent and pigheaded, but tempted to vote him for sheer stupidity at the risk of being hypocritical.

This, especially the first part, I sort of don't like and am not sure about it. On my first sight, that made me alert. Is it, like, a Wolf too easily jumping on the easy lynch without joining it yet (=i.e. going to vote later and blend with the crowd once people all start voting Morsul?)

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Sometimes people do it (do you know Nilpaurion Felagund? It was his trademark). And I must admit that I can understand Morsul's point: if he's innocent (which I think he is) and everybody just keeps suspecting him, it can get quite frustrating. Like, lynch me now and be done with it!

Interesting 180° turn of being understanding to Morsul, to whom you never seemed to understand at all, right at the moment he voted himself. But whatever...

Generally speaking, if I went with sort of my line of thought how it was all the time and not admitting any possibility of suddenly turning my world upside-down because of being paranoid that Nerwen, Agan or somebody might be Wolves, then I would basically seek for the Wolf between Shasta or Mira the most.

There is one reason why I think Agan might be innocent, also because I believe Greenie would have dreamed of her. I mean, have Aganzir running unchecked, I think she would have looked into that. I think now it's really a pity that she did not get to reveal her dreams to us! Unless she really dreamed only of dead people. But that sounds quite unlikely - also exactly because of what I have just said about Agan.

So now I am going to reread, then reread somehow further into the past, and then hopefully even further, and if I am not asleep by then, I will do something about it.

EDIT: x-ed since Morsul

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay and since Morsul did it, now I can say it aloud, that's exactly what I have been thinking he's going to do. The action may of course not imply anything in general if just anybody did it, but given Morsul-logic, if I try to imagine it from his perspective, it makes me think him more innocent. Maybe also Shasta, but there's a questionmark over that.

EDIT: x-ed with Agan

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Interesting 180° turn of being understanding to Morsul, to whom you never seemed to understand at all, right at the moment he voted himself. But whatever...

No it wasn't that moment, I had started to feel better about him earlier (might have been already yesterday) although I'm not sure how clearly I ever said it.

I'm going to sleep soonishly (unless you suddenly start to post something very interesting ).

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate

There is one reason why I think Agan might be innocent, also because I believe Greenie would have dreamed of her. I mean, have Aganzir running unchecked, I think she would have looked into that. I think now it's really a pity that she did not get to reveal her dreams to us! Unless she really dreamed only of dead people. But that sounds quite unlikely - also exactly because of what I have just said about Agan.

If Green had dreamt of Ag, why would she have kept flip-flopping on her? It makes about as much sense as the fact that yesterDay you were claiming I believe G dreamt of A and saying my dream theories don't make any sense and now suggesting that G dreamt of A yourself...

I don't like the votes against Skip and Morsul. I'd far rather see Shasta, Agan or Nerwen gone toDay, in that order more or less.


edit: xed with Brinn and Shasta, corrected quote markings

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

This, especially the first part, I sort of don't like and am not sure about it. On my first sight, that made me alert. Is it, like, a Wolf too easily jumping on the easy lynch without joining it yet (=i.e. going to vote later and blend with the crowd once people all start voting Morsul?)[/B]

I did voice suspicion against him before that, though. Like, two days ago. I'm just actually doing something about it now.

++Morsul

For reasons previously stated and since he's the only one who's really jumped out at me. This might change if I get the chance to go over some things more closely, but wanted to make sure I didn't miss deadline again.

[Thinlómien]

If Morsul is the Unicorn and wants to come out, it would make more sense NOT to lynch him. We'd have another known innocent and the chances of getting Greenie back are already quite slim...