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Old 05-04-2010, 07:05 PM   #1
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Given the facts, you can't tell me that Morgoth didn't have this idea. The hand was infected and Morgoth had his servants plant it near some populated area around Hithlum and boom- horrible death brought about by Maedhros's own flesh! He brought doom upon Lalaith, literally with his own hand.
So are you saying that Lalaith came into contact with this nasty rotting hand () and what? How did the disease spread? I seriously hope she didn't touch it or eat it...
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:00 AM   #2
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So are you saying that Lalaith came into contact with this nasty rotting hand () and what? How did the disease spread? I seriously hope she didn't touch it or eat it...
A-ha! Now you have nailed it. She found it and ate it... eurgh... but, you know, the youngsters and their habits sometimes, improper education and all that... But then, such a disgusting deed just had to be punished. I mean, eating a high Elven Lord's hand? A certain werewolf got killed for less than that.
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:03 AM   #3
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Once again: DON"T INSULT LALAITH!

Really,how many times must I repeat this?!
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Old 05-05-2010, 06:12 AM   #4
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Maybe Lalaith's geese were actually ducks and were mistranslated by Aelfwine (or possibly Bilbo, depending on which version of the translator conceit you choose to follow) rendering Dírhavel's Sindarin original in his native tongue? After all, both belong to the family Anatidae, and I've met people who couldn't tell one from the other...
An interesting point, Pitch. A number of species with "goose" in their common names are actually considered ducks by taxonomists.

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* (mentioned only in an obscure textual variant to the Narn which I can't find at the moment, but I suppose Nerwen might be able to help me out...)
The variant to which you're referring is to be found in HoMe, Vol XVI. However, though the geese do appear, note that it represents a radically different version of the text, especially regarding the effects of the disease, so that it's very hard to fit it into the story as we now know it. Nonetheless, it does represent a fascinating curiosity for Tolkien scholars– who would have thought that at one point JRRT intended to have Beleriand overrun by plague-infected cannibal zombies?

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Once again: DON"T INSULT LALAITH!

Really,how many times must I repeat this?!
But it's so much fun!
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Old 05-05-2010, 06:44 AM   #5
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Fun or not,here I come!

Besides,you like her too,don't ya? Otherwise,you wouldn't have asked question about her in 'Who am I?' thread! Admit it!

Btw,answer to my riddle in 'Who am I(II)' is Aredhel....
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A-ha! Now you have nailed it. She found it and ate it... eurgh... but, you know, the youngsters and their habits sometimes, improper education and all that... But then, such a disgusting deed just had to be punished. I mean, eating a high Elven Lord's hand? A certain werewolf got killed for less than that.
You know, this makes a certain amount of sense...

...eeewwww.

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The variant to which you're referring is to be found in HoMe, Vol XVI. However, though the geese do appear, note that it represents a radically different version of the text, especially regarding the effects of the disease, so that it's very hard to fit it into the story as we now know it. Nonetheless, it does represent a fascinating curiosity for Tolkien scholars– who would have thought that at one point JRRT intended to have Beleriand overrun by plague-infected cannibal zombies?
Clearly Tolkien was inspired by The Phantom's recent dream...
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:43 PM   #7
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Fun or not,here I come!

Besides,you like her too,don't ya? Otherwise,you wouldn't have asked question about her in 'Who am I?' thread! Admit it!
Well, actually I did that just for you.

But sure, I like her– only I'm really not sure if your "Lalaith" is, in fact, Lalaith. Don't recall Tolkien saying anything about Turin's little sister being able to kill dragons with her bare hands...

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Btw,answer to my riddle in 'Who am I(II)' is Aredhel....
Hey, Urwen, you've barely given anyone a chance to guess the answer! In fact Pitch is still waiting to be told if his guess (Nienor) was correct or not.
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:07 AM   #8
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At the risk of invoking Miss Esty's wrath....

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS RUBBISH?!?!

This is the tone I'm gleaning from this thread:


Urwen: *offers what I really HOPE is a joking opening post*

Nerwen, Eomer, Phantom (heh), Lottie (hehehehe), etc.: *give serious responses*

Me: *thinks this will be a great opportunity to learn more about the books*

Urwen: *dashes my hopes*

All of the above: *are confused*

Urwen: *is kidding, right?*



Look! I even followed Urwen's 'analytical' posting style! That has to get her back on some sort of sane track, right? Right?!


Will someone explain to me exactly what is going on here? Anyone (except Urwen at this point, because I don't think she knows either)? Please?
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