WW: LXXVI - At Moria: EXTRA Edition - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nerwen · 05-16-2010, 09:43 PM

Boro's plan is clearly a desperate attempt to save himself. There are a number of suspect-looking folk around– why, in that case, should we waste the lynch?

That only ever makes sense if there's no real candidate, and that's not the case here.

I wonder at tum for going along with it. Yes, I do.

Nerwen · 05-16-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zil

I keep coming back to the sticking point that by voting a modfire, we're in effect forfeiting our lynch. Yes, it means we're not killing someone who could be innocent who wasn't going to be gone anyway, but it also means there are still four wolves out there who are safe for another Day.

Exactly. Like I said, even if you think throwing away the lynch can be okay in some circumstances, those circumstances do not apply here. It's just nonsense.

I'm pretty darned sure he's a wolf.

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Boro's plan is clearly a desperate attempt to save himself. There are a number of suspect-looking folk around– why, in that case, should we waste the lynch?

That only ever makes sense if there's no real candidate, and that's not the case here.

I wonder at tum for going along with it. Yes, I do.

I agree with this. Well, the second bit especially. There's lots of real candidates I'd be happy with -well at least a few- and this "backup" plan could too easily turn into a cheap lynch for the Day. Like I said before, I'm not against this idea in a game where there's retractables and we all agree that in a crisis we'll switch to the dead weight, but in this situation it's too easy to muck up.

I got distracted, sorry. List in a few.

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 10:38 PM

And now everyone's quiet.

Nerwen-->Boro
Morsul-->Blind
Boro-->Cab
Tum-->Cab (2)
Mira(ish)-->Blind (2)
Blind-->Cab (3)
Dun-->Boro (2)
Paranoia-->Boro (3)
Cel-->Boro (4)

EDIT: Fixed my vote count, as I missed Blind's vote because it wasn't in standard format.

Blind Guardian · 05-16-2010, 10:44 PM

Im just waiting for something to say. Yeah the Downs screwed up on me too

Blind Guardian · 05-16-2010, 09:54 PM

I'm going to vote for ++mccaber

please except that I can't highlight on an iPod touch

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

GyI'm going to vote for mccaber

please accept that I can't highlight on an iPod touch

Yes you can. Just type [ highlight ] your text [ /highlight] except without the spaces in the coding. It's the same as manually typing in a bold or center code.

And I'm REALLY not liking how -as I predicted- Boro's contingency plan is turrning into a fullout McCaber wagon really darn quickly. Bloody told you so....

EDIT: x'd with Nerwen and Dun

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 09:58 PM

Okay, so I hate making such dramatic policy reversals, but Blind's last post bugs me hardcore. She (right?) has just jumped up into my top category (or rather the bottom one), newbie pass or no.

Analysis time, I think.

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

It takes the heat off the wolves, that's what.

This.

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Originally Posted by Loslote

Okay, the Boro and Tum votes for Cabbie were bad enough, but this looks a lot like bandwaggoning against an easy, wasteful lynch. It might also be a newbie following what she things is good reasoning, but it's looking bad for BeiGe.

This!

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Why are you going to vote for McCaber, Blind? It's a worthless throwaway.

THIS!

Nerwen · 05-16-2010, 10:03 PM

Sally, lynch Boro, please. We need to know what he is– and I find BG suspicious mainly for her relations with him (though also for her "I'm a poor widdle n00b lost in the woods" schtick).

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Sally, lynch Boro, please. We need to know what he is– and I find BG suspicious mainly for her relations with him (though also for her "I'm a poor widdle n00b lost in the woods" schtick).

Erm....let me think about it. (No, seriously. Let me look at Blind's stuff and then I'll decide. Right now I don't think Boro's as transparently evil as we all think.

Nerwen · 05-16-2010, 10:04 PM

Paranoia, you need to put ""++" in front of your vote.

EDIT:X'd since last post.

Loslote · 05-16-2010, 10:01 PM

I'm gonna be gone for a bit, but I should be back in half an hour or so. I really really hope I get back in time to vote.

Loslote · 05-16-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

GyI'm going to vote for mccaber

please except that I can't highlight on an iPod touch

Okay, the Boro and Tum votes for Cabbie were bad enough, but this looks a lot like bandwaggoning against an easy, wasteful lynch. It might also be a newbie following what she things is good reasoning, but it's looking bad for BeiGe.

Nerwen · 05-16-2010, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

GyI'm going to vote for mccaber

please except that I can't highlight on an iPod touch

Why are you going to vote for McCaber, Blind? It's a worthless throwaway.

EDIT:X'd since last vote.

Paranoia · 05-16-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

GyI'm going to vote for mccaber

please except that I can't highlight on an iPod touch

WOAH! Hold your horses there! I can't believe you you were considering Boro suspicious earlier, but are readily going along with the wagon counter to his lynch; really makes me think you're trying your best to make sure Boro doesn't die. Really makes you look mighty furry together.

*I* really don't like how fast the wagon counter to the Boro wagon is picking up speed, but part of me has is a wee bit paranoid (just a wee bit) that this is bussing an inactive wolf to save an active one.

So without getting much of a chance to go over things, I think I'm go... wait. I do know. I'm voting...

Boromir.

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 10:03 PM

Paranoia, you have to put two plusses in front of your vote or it doesn't count. Kudos on getting the highlight though; I know I used to forget all the time!

Blind Guardian · 05-16-2010, 10:04 PM

Because it ends in 2 minutes and I am tired and want to go to bed. What else do you want?

Paranoia · 05-16-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Because it ends in 2 minutes and I am tired and want to go to bed. What else do you want?

Uh... who ya talkin' too because there are nine million people who that could be referring. Also, day ends in 54 minutes. :P

Also.

++Boromir

Blind Guardian · 05-16-2010, 10:09 PM

IT ENDS IN 45 MINUTES!?! Who's time zone am I on? Dang...

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Originally Posted by Nerwen
I mean she might be just a newbie who is grateful to him for being kind to her, and doesn't understand why he's suspicious, but still...

Thank you.

Celuien · 05-16-2010, 10:19 PM

Ok. No time to really write a lot today to explain (*glares at RL work stuff*). Let's find out what

++Boro

is up to.

Also, now that we know BG wasn't making shoes, I do wonder about all the confusion. Will worry about that toMorrow.

Sorry for being a generally poor participant today.

satansaloser2005 · 05-16-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Because it ends in 2 minutes and I am tired and want to go to bed. What else do you want?

The game's not over for nearly another hour. If you want to vote and sleep, fine, but remember that throwaway votes are exactly that. They're worthless and get us nowhere.

Let's think about it this way. Lynching McCaber toDay kills McCaber, but he'll already be dead at Day's end. Lynching someone else? We at least have a chance of catching an active wolf, whereas with him we'd be getting rid of numbers and not actual threat.

Anyway, off to analyze....erm, you, actually.

EDIT: x'd since the post I quoted

Paranoia · 05-16-2010, 10:05 PM

Uh... quick question. What's with all the "Xed with <name>" posts? Could someone explain that bit to me because I'll be honest... I have no idea what's going on with that. x_x

Nerwen · 05-16-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoia

Uh... quick question. What's with all the "Xed with <name>" posts? Could someone explain that bit to me because I'll be honest... I have no idea what's going on with that. x_x

It's marking that your post crossed with theirs. It can be important to know this.

Inziladun · 05-16-2010, 09:56 PM

I thought Boro was looking rather better, until all this about McCaber.

I can't be around for DL toDay, so I have to vote now.

Boro is tempting. Still, there's that little bit of doubt that tells me he could be a misunderstood innocent.
Or, I could stir the pot a bit and vote for Celuien, who, after posting almost nothing on Day 1 beyond rules discussions, made a throwaway vote on the grounds that she didn't think anyone was really suspicious. She hasn't been here at all toDay that I recall.

Hmmm. Make it....

++Boro

Sorry if you're innocent, mate, but I can't get past the idea you're trying to lead us astray.

x/d with all since 283

05-16-2010, 09:43 PM	#1
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Boro's plan is clearly a desperate attempt to save himself. There are a number of suspect-looking folk around– why, in that case, should we waste the lynch? That only ever makes sense if there's no real candidate, and that's not the case here. I wonder at tum for going along with it. Yes, I do. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-16-2010, 10:38 PM	#4
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	And now everyone's quiet. Nerwen-->Boro Morsul-->Blind Boro-->Cab Tum-->Cab (2) Mira(ish)-->Blind (2) Blind-->Cab (3) Dun-->Boro (2) Paranoia-->Boro (3) Cel-->Boro (4) EDIT: Fixed my vote count, as I missed Blind's vote because it wasn't in standard format. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm. Last edited by satansaloser2005; 05-16-2010 at 10:43 PM.

05-16-2010, 09:58 PM	#8
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Okay, so I hate making such dramatic policy reversals, but Blind's last post bugs me hardcore. She (right?) has just jumped up into my top category (or rather the bottom one), newbie pass or no. Analysis time, I think. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

05-16-2010, 10:03 PM	#10
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Sally, lynch Boro, please. We need to know what he is– and I find BG suspicious mainly for her relations with him (though also for her "I'm a poor widdle n00b lost in the woods" schtick). __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-16-2010, 10:04 PM	#12
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Paranoia, you need to put ""++" in front of your vote. EDIT:X'd since last post. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-16-2010, 10:01 PM	#13
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	I'm gonna be gone for a bit, but I should be back in half an hour or so. I really really hope I get back in time to vote. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

05-16-2010, 10:19 PM	#21
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Ok. No time to really write a lot today to explain (glares at RL work stuff). Let's find out what ++Boro is up to. Also, now that we know BG wasn't making shoes, I do wonder about all the confusion. Will worry about that toMorrow. Sorry for being a generally poor participant today. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

05-16-2010, 10:05 PM	#23
Paranoia Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 86	Uh... quick question. What's with all the "Xed with <name>" posts? Could someone explain that bit to me because I'll be honest... I have no idea what's going on with that. x_x

05-16-2010, 09:56 PM	#25
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	I thought Boro was looking rather better, until all this about McCaber. I can't be around for DL toDay, so I have to vote now. Boro is tempting. Still, there's that little bit of doubt that tells me he could be a misunderstood innocent. Or, I could stir the pot a bit and vote for Celuien, who, after posting almost nothing on Day 1 beyond rules discussions, made a throwaway vote on the grounds that she didn't think anyone was really suspicious. She hasn't been here at all toDay that I recall. Hmmm. Make it.... ++Boro Sorry if you're innocent, mate, but I can't get past the idea you're trying to lead us astray. x/d with all since 283 __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.