WW: LXXVI - At Moria: EXTRA Edition - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Loslote · 05-21-2010, 11:37 PM

Well, thank you Morsul - we have now reached a critical mass of innocentdom.

Anywho, listie:

Suspect somewhat:
Mira

Trust mostly:
Noia
Zil

Trust very muchly:
Sally

Trust:
Me
Hunter?

So basically, Hunter, reveal soonish, please. *snuggles dear Hunter*

EDIT: xed with Mr. Mod

Inziladun · 05-21-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

Well, thank you Morsul - we have now reached a critical mass of innocentdom.

Anywho, listie:

Suspect somewhat:
Mira

Trust mostly:
Noia
Zil

Trust very muchly:
Sally

Trust:
Me
Hunter?

So basically, Hunter, reveal soonish, please. *snuggles dear Hunter*

Why do you suspect Mira over Sally?

Loslote · 05-21-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Why do you suspect Mira over Sally?

I trust Sally. If we lynch Sally, I'm almost positive we'll lose. There is no possible way she's a wolf. Mira I don't trust, and she's the most suspicious of the village (I think). You and Noia seem pretty innocent to me, but I still would trust Sally far more than either of you.

Inziladun · 05-21-2010, 11:51 PM

I have to question a statement like "There's no possible way X could be a wolf". Like I said, there's only one person left who knows the identity of the last wolf.

Loslote · 05-21-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I have to question a statement like "There's no possible way X could be a wolf". Like I said, there's only one person left who knows the identity of the last wolf.

Question it all you like; it's still true. I have ways of knowing...

Really, though, she's innocent. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Hunter - but even if she's not, and Mira is (either you or Noia would have revealed by now, and I know I'm not) she's not a wolf. Trust me on this one. Sally's actually incredibly easy to read, once you figure out her little secrets.

Even easier than you, Zil.

EDIT: xed with Noia

Inziladun · 05-22-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

Question it all you like; it's still true. I have ways of knowing...

Really, though, she's innocent. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Hunter - but even if she's not, and Mira is (either you or Noia would have revealed by now, and I know I'm not) she's not a wolf. Trust me on this one. Sally's actually incredibly easy to read, once you figure out her little secrets.

Even easier than you, Zil.

Well, I'm not the Hunter, so it could be Sally. She was throwing out enough hints.

I've had misgivings about Sally, not only for the drama around Boro's lynch, but also for one or two other things I've noticed. Then again, I do have a tendancy to suspect her as a rule, and she apparently feels the same about me. I recall getting her lynched once when we were both innocent, and that gave the game to the wolves. It does somewhat comfort me that both you and Para trust her.

Loslote · 05-22-2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, I'm not the Hunter, so it could be Sally. She was throwing out enough hints.

I've had misgivings about Sally, not only for the drama around Boro's lynch, but also for one or two other things I've noticed. Then again, I do have a tendancy to suspect her as a rule, and she apparently feels the same about me. I recall getting her lynched once when we were both innocent, and that gave the game to the wolves. It does somewhat comfort me that both you and Para trust her.

I was caught up in the same drama she was in, remember. Thus, by sheer numbers, at least one innocent was involved in that - and chances are, both of us were. I happen to think it was both.

And she certainly was throwing out hints. Did anyone else notice how many times she used the word 'hunt' in conversation?

satansaloser2005 · 05-22-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

Question it all you like; it's still true. I have ways of knowing...

Really, though, she's innocent. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Hunter - but even if she's not, and Mira is (either you or Noia would have revealed by now, and I know I'm not) she's not a wolf. Trust me on this one. Sally's actually incredibly easy to read, once you figure out her little secrets.

Even easier than you, Zil.

EDIT: xed with Noia

Ah, yes, yes I am. When I want to be. ^_^

Lottie, who do you suspect most? Oh, Paranoia and Dun? See, I'm good at math!

Keeper of Dol Guldur · 05-22-2010, 09:13 AM

I do indeed still have double hunt.

Inziladun · 05-22-2010, 09:19 AM

Here's something else from Sally that ought to be examined.

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Wow.... SOOOOO confused...

what are the rules regarding not voting? because I don't plan on voting today because absolutely nothing makes sense for me.

We were all confused. It was the first Day; we were all supposed to be confused. But this looks like he’s taking the cheap way out (which he obviously was) and I don’t approve of it. Just because you don’t have solid evidence against someone (especially on the first Day) doesn’t mean you shouldn’t vote. If all the innocents just didn’t vote on the first Day we’d have no chance of killing a wolf, because the wolves would be controlling the voting.

In a way this makes me think that he’s just a slacking innocent (again) rather than a wolf, but I think either way he’s against the village, intentionally or not.

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Sorry I was busy the other day... I'll be more active tonight. But have to go to work at the moment. The reason I didn't post much was because I was so busy. The reason I didn't vote was, my vote record is iffy at the best of times, I didn't want to vote anyone in particular just to do so. Although Nerwen is high on my suspicion list she had said something that seemed off to me.... At this exact second I can't recall what it was but I'll figure it out tonight with a real post.

He suspects one person -one- and has nothing else to say about anybody else. Business is understandable and I’ll certainly not fault him for that, but his no vote reasoning is just using his reputation as an excuse for laziness and trying not to leave a trail. It makes me very uneasy.

Verdict (for now): Either way, he’s not going to be helping the village, he’ll be harming us. I don’t know if it’s intentional (aka wolfism) or not, but he’s being a detriment, not an asset, and I’d much rather have him go than someone who’s actually trying to win the game. (This, of course, is subject to change with more posts, but that’s my feeling right now.)

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Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

I doubt any of us enjoy falling. We have a bigger problem. Werewolves! Hideous creatures of the stygian night.

Gasp! Hehe, a silly post from a silly player, nothing more. Unless it is?

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Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

In a sense, my name is a hoax. I am not an Elf, just a stout hobbit. Now you've got a rock solid case to lynch me without further talk or rational thought.

Oh, all those people who haven't posted must be werewolves. Oh noes, we're all doomed! AGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

That previous paragraph demonstrates that I am a truly sinister individual. Are you too blind to see the way I explain away something truly sinister about myself? Also, note the way he then diverts attention from himself by making a joking accusation about all the people who haven't posted yet. What we need is a strong leader with manly chest hair. On second thought, we need four strong leaders.

And now I’m thinking about manly chest hair. On the female players.

++Elf-Warri.....

Anyway, this is kind of very silly thing but I can see how people would jump on it. I think it’s innocent (or at least not a real hint at evilness) thing, but I’ll want to keep an eye out because people have been getting by with similar posts recently and I’ll stand for it no longer. *sits*

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Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

I plead not guilty. I was joking when I called myself sinister.

Edit: Cross posted with Loslote

Just referring to the earlier post. Not a lot.

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BG: OK, so I should go to bed and wait for tomorrow?
Elfie: Sure. Go ahead.

Just helping a newbie. How sweet, eh? Strangely, however, I’m picking up hints of something more in their little helpful exchange. Maybe it’s just me?

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Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

Paranoia, maybe I'm just being blind, but I'm inclined to think Blind Guardian's mistakes are so mistakey that it makes her unlikely to be a wolf. I think it's more likely she's a cobbler. I'm inclined to believe she's an innocent.

However, I'm getting some faint suspicious vibes from Boromir. In my werewolfing experience, it is common for wolves to bind themselves with an innocent so that if the innocent dies, the wolf is given a patina of innocence and vice a versa if the wolf dies. This could be the nature of a possible connection between Blind Guardian and Boromir, she's innocent, he's hairy.

I have gotten practically no suspicious vibes from Lottie. Morsul's intention not to vote seems out of character to me. I could be wrong. I've only played with him once before. I'm inclinedto think Paranoia is innocent because he's thinking in line with me on Boromir.

I'm not really feeling suspicious of Nienna. I don't blame Xed for voting for me. I haven't been helpful.

++Morsul

Defends Blind, suspects Boro, votes Morsul because....because he didn’t vote. Well, understandable but Morsul doing something OOC is actually IC for Morsul, so I don’t know if I agree with this. Also, not voting Paranoia just because he (right?) agrees with you seems off to me. And if you suspect Boro more why not vote him?

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Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

I'd like to start with a public service announcement. If you didn't vote yesterday and you're innocent, vote today before the deadline. It could save this village. There are a lot of people in this village now, but our numbers will shrink and remember, the wolves have an extra kill. The wolves have managed to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat before.

Anywho, I am still suspicious of Boromir. However, I think it's possible the wolves killed Izzy to frame Boromir.

I found something that could be suspicious. I've noticed it before, but I wonder if I'm making a mountain out of a molehill.

This just screams awkward to me. I almost want to say that there's a hint of "guys, I know we killed our cobbler but we can make it out alive, oh, and I should reassure the village too so I look innocent and helpful" to this post.

Verdict: All in all I think I’ll have to keep an eye on Elfie, but I won’t be double-plussing any time soon, because I’m still very iffy on the whole situation. From the tone of posts I'd actually have to go with guilty right now, but I'm not sure I'm ready to condemn quite yet. We'll have to see what I think of everyone else.

What strikes me in all this is that Sally spends the first part of the post saying why Morsul's refusal to vote on Day 1 is suspicious, that whether he was innocent or guilty he was a detriment to the village.

Then, she latches onto TEW (who said he had "faint suspicious vibes" from Boro, nothing else) and starts to lay the groundwork for a case on him. She finishes by using TEW's vote for Morsul (based upon the latter's non-vote) against him, when she herself had already said Morsul made her "very uneasy", and she would personally prefer to see him go.

This seems hypocritical to me, and the basis for a case against the now known innocent TEW looks flimsy.

x/d with all since 601: Excellent! Double hunt!

05-21-2010, 11:37 PM	#1
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	Well, thank you Morsul - we have now reached a critical mass of innocentdom. Anywho, listie: Suspect somewhat: Mira Trust mostly: Noia Zil Trust very muchly: Sally Trust: Me Hunter? So basically, Hunter, reveal soonish, please. snuggles dear Hunter EDIT: xed with Mr. Mod __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

05-21-2010, 11:51 PM	#4
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	I have to question a statement like "There's no possible way X could be a wolf". Like I said, there's only one person left who knows the identity of the last wolf. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

05-22-2010, 09:13 AM	#9
Keeper of Dol Guldur Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 315, CNY Boys and girls. Posts: 405	I do indeed still have double hunt. __________________ "I come from yonder...Have you seen Baggins? Baggins has left, he is coming. He is not far away. I wish to find him. If he passes will you tell me? I will come back with gold." - Khamul the Easterling