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Wight of the Old Forest
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall
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In addition to everything mentioned above,
5. Elves at Helm's Deep 4. that whole 'Arwen is dying' nonsense 3. Théoden about to spew green pea soup (aka The Exorcist at Edoras) 2. Gollum made cute rather than wretched+dangerous+pitiful 1. Frodo sending Sam away
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
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5. The shield surf
4. How annoyed and critical we all get with PJ's take (overall he did a good job yet we are pedantic all the same) 3. Where the crap is Glorfindel? Why would Arwen go out...WHY!!!! 2. Faramir turns quasi-corrupt 1. I have to agree with Pitch that the WORST thing is Frodo turning Samwise away the whole scene was absolute rubbish. It just made me want to vomit.
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Wight
Join Date: Mar 2009
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1. No great scene with Saruman at Bag End!
2. Nutty Denethor. 3. Stupid Ents. 4. Uncertain Aragorn. 5. Too many battle scenes. |
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I actually like the way Arwen was used in FotR as a
sort of ZenaArwen (rather sexy and gave her more to do and generally kept Glorfindel's actions intact). But minus points for not having Frodo speak to the Black Riders at the Ford of Bruinen: Quote:
1) Gandalf physically assaults the Stewart (against the specific ban on the Wizards interfering (see Unfinished Tales). 2) Screwing up my favorite LotR character (Faramir). 3) The Green Slime at the Pelennor Fields (makes pointless the whole charge of the Rohirrim which, of course, was probably why Tolkien limited the Army of the Dead actions). 4) The inept way PJ portrayed the charge of the Rohirrim. Instead of in broad daylight it should have been like the book, start it in dark, have Theoden give a bit of his book speech: Quote:
then charges ahead of the Eotheod as the sun begins to come out and shines brightly on his shield. 5) The ridiculous way Merry and Pippin tricked Treebeard into going to Orthanc. Why not have the ents vote to go there and recite their marching song en route?
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
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Fair points Tuor on the Army of the Dead. That does annoy me and I had forgotten it. I would replace the shield surfing scene with that in order of things that bother me.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: May 2004
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1) Elves at Helm's Deep
2) Aragorn doesn't have the shards with him. 3)Frodo stamping out the fire at Weathertop 4)sends Sam away 5)(I know it's a difficult to portray on film but....)Frodo is WAAAY too whiny |
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has performed so well getting to Rivendell. (In the movie, exactly how?)
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
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I know that this does not happen but I'm curious as to why this would be on your top 5 list as it seems rather minor.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In Eldamar beside the walls of Elven Tirion
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[QUOTE
4. that whole 'Arwen is dying' nonsense [/QUOTE] Tell me about it. The movie made me want to hate her (in the books I find her annoying because Tolkien compares her to Lúthien lol)
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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1. Wargs were replaced with suicidal hyenas.
2. No Warg scene on the way to Caradhras (or was it Moria?) where they surround the fellowship, Gandalf kills a few, etc. 3. Ents, especially Treebeard, treated as boring and stupid. 4. Frodo/Sam/Gollum lembas saga 5. Giant flaming eyeball (can't believe no-one mentioned this yet).
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Blithe Spirit
Join Date: Jan 2003
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1. Major characters given personalities diametrically opposite to how Tolkien created them...eg Tolkien-Theoden "kindly old man" while film-Theoden angry and bitter, in fact playing the role of book-Denethor;
meanwhile Denethor himself - a leader who in the book did his utmost to defend Gondor, ordering the beacons to be lit and the Arrow to summon Rohan: "tall, valiant, more kingly than any man that had appeared in Gondor for many lives of men") turned into a drooling Nero-esque sybarite. 2. Major characters who were not actually transformed were trivialised and made oafish (Gimli, Merry, Pippin) or embarrassingly wet and over-emotional. (Frodo, Eowyn) 3. The stupid Arwen-into-horse scene in TT (didn't actually mind the Arwen-on-horse in FotR) 4. The stupid Treebeard-tricking in TT 5. The stupid Arwen-is-leaving-then-dying thing in TT
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1. Ents, especially Treebeard
2. Frodo/Sam/Gollum lembas saga 3. The stupid Arwen-into-horse scene in TT 4. Giant flaming eyeball 5. Elves at Helm's Deep |
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shadow of a doubt
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Off the top of my head
5) Turning the horror-scenes of the book into action scenes (ie. Black Riders, The Balrog...) 4) The stupid action scenes, like Legolas' ridiculous shield surfing, his climbing of ridiculously big Olliphants, the Dwarf-tossing, Sam fighting with cooking ware etc... 3) Denethor the retard 2) Stupid Ents (they actually annoy me in the books too, maybe I should start a thread about pet peeves in the books too?) 1) Almost about the entire RotK. In fact, don't think I've ever managed to sit it through.
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