Who would be the rightul king in aman?

[elbenprincess]

I think Olwe would remain the king of the teleri, cause he set sail to aman, while elwe remeined in ME, so Elwe IMHO gave all his rights to be king in aman away. Maybe Thingol would establish a separate Sindar Kingdom (were his people Sindar)?

But my main focus lies on the noldorin kingship, I´m a noldor fan

What do you mean with "Dior or Elrond -the Children of Luthien are the answer to anything"

Do you mean Dior or Elrong could claim the noldor throne? I think Elrond could, but would be strange, galadriel is is mother in law and fianrfin her father, would be awkward

I like the image of galadriel coming back and beeing the princess of the noldor, it´s nice.

I really wonder if there were changes in aman over the intervening years...or if everything is the same, as galadriel remembers.

It´s a shame tolkien never wrote something about aman and the return of the elves

[Morthoron]

Who cares? What's the use of being a king when you have to always behave properly and respectfully because you have these greater beings hovering about you, slapping dooms down on you if you get out of line? Ingwe sits at the foot of Taniquetil adoringly basking in Manwe's glow. What kind of king is that, I ask you?

At least the Noldor that left Valinor had some cahones.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

At least the Noldor that left Valinor had some cahones.

Wasn't that Fëanor's point?

Anyway, as to the original question, I think Finarfin retained the kingship of the Noldor in Valinor and would have done so even if Fingolfin had been rebodied. Why? Because I don't think Fingolfin was the type to have demanded things be otherwise. He would have readily admitted his mistake in following Fëanor, and would not have allowed himself to claim the kingship because of his past deeds, thinking himself unfit to rule over Finarfin, who was also a son of Finwë and had taken no part in the deeds of the Noldor which had led to the Curse.

[Mithalwen]

Elrond did not claim kingship of the Noldor remaining in Middle Earth - of course the numbers were so depleted to make the title almost ridiculous but by blood he was probably entitled - so it would have been odd for him to claim it in Aman. Galadriel didn't use the title of Queen even over her Silvan subjects so again unlikely. I imagine that,in Aman as in Beliriand each headed their own household and followers, but that Finarfin remained as nominal head. I agree it is fairly meaningless.

There is no real suprise in Tolkien not writing more about Aman without the rebelling Noldor. There is little drama and interest in people being endlessly good and cooperative. No, Morgoth, no Feanor + same old, same old...

[elbenprincess]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Who cares? What's the use of being a king when you have to always behave properly and respectfully because you have these greater beings hovering about you, slapping dooms down on you if you get out of line? Ingwe sits at the foot of Taniquetil adoringly basking in Manwe's glow. What kind of king is that, I ask you?

At least the Noldor that left Valinor had some cahones.

I don´t think that the valar interfere too much in their business, of course if they would start killing each other, they would do something but in a regular basis they let the elves rule their kingdoms.

I believe that galadriel dwells with celebrian and elrond with her parents in tirion.

I am a huge elvenfan, therefore I would be very interested in the life of the eldar in aman or the remaining in ME.