Did Rohan annex Enedwaith in the Fourth Age ? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-23-2010, 04:42 PM

I am not aware of any such thing. When I read this, I just checked Karen Wynn Fonstad's Atlas of Middle-Earth (which is generally rather trustworthy) and it shows Rohan on the Fourth Age map in its original borders (westwards only between Isen and Adorn). Enedwaith, as well as Minhiriath and everything between Arnor and Gondor which is not Rohan belongs to the renewed kingdom. Even if I did not trust the map itself, there is a referrence to a quote from LotR that Elessar "renewed the kingdom in its original borders" - which means Enedwaith and Minhiriath too. It makes sense: one would certainly prefer to have an unbroken link between Arnor and Gondor, even if the breaking point was an allied kingdom; it is still better if you can pass still only within your own borders. So I think not. Also remember the talk of Butterbur to Gandalf, where he seemed displeased at the idea of some random folks coming and rebuilding Fornost etc., and also the southern parts - and Gandalf replied to that that king's messengers will be coming from the south, which implies that all the lands there will belong to the King.

06-23-2010, 04:42 PM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I am not aware of any such thing. When I read this, I just checked Karen Wynn Fonstad's Atlas of Middle-Earth (which is generally rather trustworthy) and it shows Rohan on the Fourth Age map in its original borders (westwards only between Isen and Adorn). Enedwaith, as well as Minhiriath and everything between Arnor and Gondor which is not Rohan belongs to the renewed kingdom. Even if I did not trust the map itself, there is a referrence to a quote from LotR that Elessar "renewed the kingdom in its original borders" - which means Enedwaith and Minhiriath too. It makes sense: one would certainly prefer to have an unbroken link between Arnor and Gondor, even if the breaking point was an allied kingdom; it is still better if you can pass still only within your own borders. So I think not. Also remember the talk of Butterbur to Gandalf, where he seemed displeased at the idea of some random folks coming and rebuilding Fornost etc., and also the southern parts - and Gandalf replied to that that king's messengers will be coming from the south, which implies that all the lands there will belong to the King. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories