WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Boromir88]

Quite the fab party Thanatos has put on for us, wouldn't you say? Hey! Hey! I know you're all antsy to see me, but watch the glasses!

Originally Posted by the phantom

But I am quite certain of one thing- The Saucepan Man bears watching!

Do you know the type? Like are we talking black, grizzly, or were, here? *badabing*

One thing I am quite certain of is phantom will come up with a plan that will best achieve victory for whoever he's allied with, be it wolves, lover, or the great Zeus.

If he be allied with the wolves, we will all object to his plan because we don't want to admit it's a good plan, and proceed to lynch one of the seers.

If he be allied with a lover, we will all object to his plan, because we don't want to admit it's a good plan, and proceed to lynch one of the seers.

If he be allied with the almighty Zeus, we will all object to his plan....oh you get the idea.

Best just go with what he counsels unless it's, "lynch the seer."

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Best just go with what he counsels unless it's, "lynch the seer."

No, no, I'm pretty sure we should still go with what he counsels. If he does counsel that, you can be sure he himself *is* the Seer, and is trying to double-bluff - and thus, his "seer" is not a "seer" at all, but rather a wolf in seer's toga.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

If he be allied with the wolves, we will all object to his plan because we don't want to admit it's a good plan, and proceed to lynch one of the seers.

If he be allied with a lover, we will all object to his plan, because we don't want to admit it's a good plan, and proceed to lynch one of the seers.

If he be allied with the almighty Zeus, we will all object to his plan....oh you get the idea.

You do realise that all three conditions are one and the same, Boro?

[wilwarin538]

Not much happening. This saddens me.

So I'll make some random comments then. These quotes made me giggle:

Originally Posted by the phantom

Want to know how tired I am? I was within an inch of posting a first post that was IN CHARACTER!!

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I don't know, somehow you always think the Twilight of the Gods is something that only happens to other pantheons, don't you? *shakes head sadly*

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Quite the fab party Thanatos has put on for us, wouldn't you say? Hey! Hey! I know you're all antsy to see me, but watch the glasses!

Do you know the type? Like are we talking black, grizzly, or were, here? *badabing*

*stops giggling*

And this deserves a legitimate response:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

One thing I am quite certain of is phantom will come up with a plan that will best achieve victory for whoever he's allied with, be it wolves, lover, or the great Zeus.

If he be allied with the wolves, we will all object to his plan because we don't want to admit it's a good plan, and proceed to lynch one of the seers.

If he be allied with a lover, we will all object to his plan, because we don't want to admit it's a good plan, and proceed to lynch one of the seers.

If he be allied with the almighty Zeus, we will all object to his plan....oh you get the idea.

Best just go with what he counsels unless it's, "lynch the seer."

First, I'm not all too certain why you've seperated Zeus from the other Lovers. If the other two Lovers find each other they will be no different from the Zeus/Hera pairing. Unless I'm missing something.

Second, Nerwen is right. They are actually all the same. The Lovers and Wolves are essentially on the same team right now. Zeus is really like a 5th wolf at the moment, except he doesn't know who 3 of them are, and has no real say in the Night kill, and counts in the innocent numbers (so maybe more like a cobblerish thing, as long as Hera is still kicking). The other 2 Lovers are potential allies for the wolves if they are united with their wolfy loves.

Hopefully one of each of those seperated Lovers dies before they've found each other. To avoid all the revenge kill business, and to keep the two non wolves from allying with the wolves. Even though wolves are the goal for lynching, it wouldn't be a total waste to kill a Lover.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

First, I'm not all too certain why you've seperated Zeus from the other Lovers. If the other two Lovers find each other they will be no different from the Zeus/Hera pairing. Unless I'm missing something.

I think he meant that in that case the pantom would be on the "good" side as opposed to being Hera. Then again, we're the Olympians- there is no good or evil, only us. But you're right. Zeus would rather have Hera live than the rest of us, even she is on the opposite side.

edit: x-ed with Foley. And I like that spelling mistake, so I'm not going to change it.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

I think he meant that in that case the pantom would be on the "good" side as opposed to being Hera. Then again, we're the Olympians- there is no good or evil, only us. But you're right. Zeus would rather have Hera live than the rest of us, even she is on the opposite side.

edit: x-ed with Foley. And I like that spelling mistake, so I'm not going to change it.

Well he did say 'allied with the almighty Zeus', so he must have been meaning Phantom as Hera. I just don't get why he seperated them from the other Lovers.

Anyway. I want more action. I have to go to work later, and I don't want all the good stuff to happen without me.

[Blind Guardian]

Hello people I am here. But I have to leave. So...MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!

[the phantom]

Interesting tactic, Boro (you know the one I mean- the one that has nothing to do with me personally, but the underlying tactic). Given simple odds I figure you're bluffing, but if you aren't and things happen the way you appear to wish for them to happen (I mean you're practically begging), do you realize how many peeved players there will be? I realize this is a rather free and open game and you are free to place your loyalties anywhere you please, but really...

[Eönwë]

Murderers? What are we, Titans?
And how did the mortal(s) manage to get here? I'm pretty sure I didn't see Zeus didn't let them in.

Also:
"Wolf!"

There, now my first post really is screaming it to all of you.

[Folwren]

Alright, I'm announcing my presence. I'm glad to see I've not fallen too far behind already, though I dare say I will be very far behind before too much time has passed.

Having not been around these goings on for the past couple years, I really have no idea of anyone's habits while playing, but I'll go ahead and jot down my first impressions...

Loslote talks a lot. Whether it is nonsensicle or serious, it's still a lot. Good? Bad? I don't know. I'm having a feeling it's more bad than good, but since few others have posted, I have little to compare it to.

Nerwen seems sensible. Has said nothing alarming yet.

I agree with what Boromir said about Phantom helping whichever side he chooses, but I don't know if my reasoning is quite as his was. But I'm slightly confused about what exactly his reasoning was... Anyway...

Wilwa seems alright, too.

Just my two cents. Only, this is so worthless (being the first day and all) that it's practically only worth .5 cents.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Best just go with what he counsels...

Frankly, I'd rather just lynch the seer.

Going along with what Phantom counsels is no fun at all. If there's any danger that we're going to feel obligated to do so, I recommend lynching him now... or at least chaining him to a rock for the remainder of the game. *gets chains*

To others: I think Boro didn't mean "Zeus" in the sense of the role. Either that, or he's hinting at something.

Also, Boro is acting weird. I think he must have a special role of some kind. Loslote, too. And especially Nerwen, Wilwa, Eonwe and BeiGe. Phantom, however, just seems like a clueless ordo.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Also, Boro is acting weird. I think he must have a special role of some kind. Loslote, too. And especially Nerwen, Wilwa, Eonwe and BeiGe. Phantom, however, just seems like a clueless ordo.

I am under the distinct impression that everyone in this game has some sort of 'special role'.

I suggest that we NOT lynch Phantom, as he has not said anything remarkably ridiculous this game. There are much better candidates for killing so far.

And once more, I am uncertain of people's playing styles, but I don't understand why one would let the first thing out of their mouth be, "Frankly, I'd rather just lynch the seer." It might just be your style, Rikae, but it sounds rather dangerous to me.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I am under the distinct impression that everyone in this game has some sort of 'special role'.

Really? I had no idea.

Originally Posted by Folwren

I suggest that we NOT lynch Phantom, as he has not said anything remarkably ridiculous this game. There are much better candidates for killing so far.

Aw, come on. Do you really want to spend the game being dictated to by that eg--- that cuddly little guy?

Originally Posted by Folwren

And once more, I am uncertain of people's playing styles, but I don't understand why one would let the first thing out of their mouth be, "Frankly, I'd rather just lynch the seer." It might just be your style, Rikae, but it sounds rather dangerous to me.

Oh no! I seem to have made a blatant wolvish slip! It's all over now! Packmates, save yourselves!!!!!11111oneeleventy



EDIT: X'd with Inzil

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

One thing I am quite certain of is phantom will come up with a plan that will best achieve victory for whoever he's allied with, be it wolves, lover, or the great Zeus.

Why single out the storied phantom? Wouldn't anyone do the same?

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Murderers? What are we, Titans?
And how did the mortal(s) manage to get here? I'm pretty sure I didn't see Zeus didn't let them in.

Also:
"Wolf!"

There, now my first post really is screaming it to all of you.

Thanks for the admission! Now who are your mates?

Originally Posted by the phantom

Interesting tactic, Boro (you know the one I mean- the one that has nothing to do with me personally, but the underlying tactic). Given simple odds I figure you're bluffing, but if you aren't and things happen the way you appear to wish for them to happen (I mean you're practically begging), do you realize how many peeved players there will be? I realize this is a rather free and open game and you are free to place your loyalties anywhere you please, but really...

At least someone understands.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Also, Boro is acting weird. I think he must have a special role of some kind. Loslote, too. And especially Nerwen, Wilwa, Eonwe and BeiGe. Phantom, however, just seems like a clueless ordo.

Singling out possible gifteds? You're clearly a wolf.

x/d with Folwren

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I suggest that we NOT lynch Phantom, as he has not said anything remarkably ridiculous this game.

Just great. What you're basically saying is that if I start acting silly you'll lynch me. Way to take my fun away!

Originally Posted by Rikae

Frankly, I'd rather just lynch the seer.

Quite right, it will keep him from leading us astray with his false dreams later on. Good idea!

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Inzil

Why single out the storied phantom? Wouldn't anyone do the same?

Because it's fun to talk about me.

Plus he wanted my attention perhaps?

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Aw, come on. Do you really want to spend the game being dictated to by that eg--- that cuddly little guy?

Why does everyone assume that just because he comes up with a crazy plan, we have to follow it? We could always just ignore him.

And I hadn't considered that when Boro said 'allied with Zeus' that he meant 'the village'. I suppose that all makes more sense now.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Why does everyone assume that just because he comes up with a crazy plan, we have to follow it? We could always just ignore him.

I don't say ignore him, but he shouldn't be blindly followed either. No one should, at this point.

[Folwren]

Aw, come on. Do you really want to spend the game being dictated to by that eg--- that cuddly little guy?

Lynching someone and being dictated to by someone are two options at far ends from each other. I'm saying p'raps we don't want to do either.

Good glory, is there any purpose to this first day at all, besides bantering, teasing, and otherwise killing time?

[Lalaith]

Why single out the storied phantom

Of course, making a high-profile player like Phantom the centre of chat and attention is an excellent tactic for others to divert attention away from themselves.
Well, of the Great Ones that have so far spoken, many seem to have taken too freely of Ganymede's cups - but still, these are times of confusion and chaos not seen for many an age, so perhaps we can excuse ourselves. And to add to the chaos, no-one, save one, is 'innocent' in the sense of being exactly what they seem. Some are already grouped and paired and so know more than others, others are searching for mates.

I hadn't considered that when Boro said 'allied with Zeus' that he meant 'the village'. I suppose that all makes more sense now.

Doesn't to me - particularly as Zeus himself is not whole-heartedly allied to the village.