WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Is it possible for us to stop talking about curses? Please?

Well, I hope so.

Here's something to talk about, which I raised earlier: Blind Guardian did, I think, drop a hint about her role. I never picked it up until after she died, but it's possible Hephaestus was looking a bit harder.

It may be worth seeing if anyone seemed to be particularly protective of her. (Or to be hinting back, perhaps– though look where searching for hints has got us...)

[autume98]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, I hope so.

Here's something to talk about, which I raised earlier: Blind Guardian did, I think, drop a hint about her role. I never picked it up until after she died, but it's possible Hephaestus was looking a bit harder.

It may be worth seeing if anyone seemed to be particularly protective of her. (Or to be hinting back, perhaps– though look where searching for hints has got us...)

It looks like she did give a hint here:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I've drinken and I'm not 16. It's where I get my good looks from. Though I'm not French. Though I wouldn't drink that much, true. Dionyses doesn't have a lover. So is Eönwë hinting that he's Dionyses?

Not sure if anyone picked up on the hint. I'll will have to go back and see.

[autume98]

So apparently I'm a little confused. I know shocker! I thought for some reason the Aphrodite had to do with wine. I looked it up and it has to do with Love and Beauty. So please ignore the above post.

Edit: x-ed with tp and wilwa

[the phantom]

*laughs at Tum*

Why do you want us to ignore your last post? BG did in fact make a beauty reference in it, so it still fits.

[the phantom]

And I see you can add Lalaith and Wilwa to the list of people who have called me "touchy" or similar. Has it really been that long since people have seen an innocent Phantom under fire?

I even recall someone (SPM perhaps?) back in the day pointing out that I was doing my usual hysterical thing under fire, and in another game I recall being asked to stop shouting so much (typing in all caps) because I was angry.

Are all the ancient ones gone? Kuru? Fordim? Anguirel? Where are you?

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And I see you can add Lalaith and Wilwa to the list of people who have called me "touchy" or similar. Has it really been that long since people have seen an innocent Phantom under fire?

I even recall someone (SPM perhaps?) back in the day pointing out that I was doing my usual hysterical thing under fire, and in another game I recall being asked to stop shouting so much (typing in all caps) because I was angry.

Are all the ancient ones gone? Kuru? Fordim? Anguirel? Where are you?

Phantom, I said I didn't see what was touchy about your posts.


And Tum dear, BG's post *did* have an Aphrodite hint. And many people have pointed it out.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Nog

I do actually lean on voting for Eonwë (his actions toDay haven't exactly made him look better) and do not have too much time, so could you tell me what makes you think Boro was the false seer rather than the true one? I mean he didn't know it himself which one he was and thus you can't read it from his behaviour, so what's your view?

My leaning towards him as the false Seer is more or less because Eonwe just hasn't looked that bad to me, and that seems to be the obvious dream.

As I stated before, yesterday he didn't look bad to me because I thought his Dionysus comment was done in honesty, not to mention that if he was Dionysus Boro couldn't have spotted him, thus suspecting him for that today seems completely counter-productive. What other reason is there to suspect him?

At this point the best reason I see to vote for him is just to give it a logical try- i.e. he's the most likely dream plus it would be a possible clue to the badness of others seeing as he was a lynching suspect yesterday. The only problem is he hasn't felt bad to me, and I'd kick myself for going against my judgement. But then going against logic is bad too.

Meh. In general I just don't like this situation.

Anyway, I have to leave right this instant! I'll be back for the final two/three hours.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, don't be such a drama ghost. (This in response to Phantom's #443.)


Okay, so here's a rough list of how I feel about people. Don't think I can stay much longer, alas. I'm sorry, but I won't be back once I leave (until toMorrow of course).


Good:
Nienna
Greenie
Kath
Dun
Rikae
Lottie


Not sure:
Lal (think she's pretty safe, but I never can read her)
Phantom (he looks innocent, but something's not quite right)
Tum (she looks really confused, but I may smell a plotting newbie....I'll look at her)
Mac (I'm clearly missing something, so I'll have to look at him....but meh?)
Stick (confusing me with....nothing....hence the problem)
Shasta (not getting a darn thing on him)


Not so good:
Foley (she said she thought Phantom could be a gifted....that's never an innocent thing to say)
Nog (he's just....weird, and doesn't seem like an innocent Nog, toDay's confusing discussion about language aside)
Nerwen (I don't suspect her, thus she must be something....it better be evil)
Steve (he's responding strangely to all this attention, and while I think his Dionysus thing was fine I still think he's evil)


I'm not sure who I'll be voting for yet, but I won't be voting four my first category, that's for sure. After all, I love 'em so!


ETA: Did I get the right number of baddies? If so, it was unintentional, I swears.

[satansaloser2005]

Bugger this. I'm too tired to leave. *slacks* I'll be back with more in-depth thoughts.

[Nogrod]

Today's votes so far...

Greenie -> Mac
Shasta -> Nogrod
Kath -> Nogrod 2
Lalaith -> Eonwë

Some remarks of skimming (really skimming) through the thread.

There was this incredible "taming of Mac" that took place. I had totally forgotten it. What happened? I mean the to and fro between Mac and tp ending in the sugariest ending I've seen in a while...

Shasta may be having time-issues but if he has he had relatively long time to post his short remarks.. but the problem is he seems to be going only where the wind seems to blow. So yesterDay he was for lynching Eonwë and toDay Mac and me - and after tp said Mac was alright he didn't feel such an urge to go after him either... you have a nice padawan Obie phantom, but they should learn some independence. Also his reasons for voting me were interesting:

His case is a big steaming bucket of double-, triple-, and quadruple-bluffing, as far as I'm concerned

Really? In this game where everyone - but one - has an increased reason to hide and to bluff. It was not too much of a reason - especially looking at the other side: what would an intelligent wolf do? Be pleasing, nice, reasonable... and not run amok like a teenage hurricane... And as we're on it, what was it actually, Shasta? If you say someone is fishy come forwards and tell why and in which way. Otherwise I'll call your elementary attempt at bluffing back.

So as you see, I didn't like it. Not so much that it was a vote for me, but because it seemed like too calculated to not stand out - that it actually stood out... SO do not let him get easy on Days to come.

Unless something drastic happens, my vote will go to Eonwë. Reasons to follow suite.

[autume98]

Originally Posted by the phantom

*laughs at Tum*

Why do you want us to ignore your last post? BG did in fact make a beauty reference in it, so it still fits.

So she did. I think I just made a fool of myself. I did not see anyone who responded to it so it doesn't help us find her partner.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by autume98

So apparently I'm a little confused. I know shocker! I thought for some reason the Aphrodite had to do with wine. I looked it up and it has to do with Love and Beauty. So please ignore the above post.

Edit: x-ed with tp and wilwa

The possible hint I'm talking about was in that post– it's the bit about her "good looks".

[autume98]

So after going over BG's posts again, this time looking for something to do with love and beauty. I came up with nothing. I don't see one iota of a hint that she tried to give her partner Hephaestus.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Here's something to talk about, which I raised earlier: Blind Guardian did, I think, drop a hint about her role. I never picked it up until after she died, but it's possible Hephaestus was looking a bit harder.

It may be worth seeing if anyone seemed to be particularly protective of her. (Or to be hinting back, perhaps– though look where searching for hints has got us...)

Well, when I said that Mac could be Hephaestus, did I mention that he said this?

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Raise your hand if you'd like to lynch somebody suspicious instead of BG.

Yes, she might not be very helpful, but that's not a good reason to lynch and you know that.

And then voted you.

[Eönwë]

Think I'll just do a quick summary of what was going to be my Nog post:

First, I think he pretty much ironically sums himself up here:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

it looks like those things wolves love to jump on: when they have no real suspicions themselves - because all they should suspect are innocents - they like to cling on scenarios some others suggest or that stand out in any possible way. Looking at the number of comments where Boro's wordings were deemed suspicious or noteworthy of a raised eyebrow I'd bet there are wolves involved.

In that post, he already begins to suspect me, though he just implies it without saying anything obvious- he doesn't actually say any particular person is suspicious- only those looking for meaning in Boro's use of Zeus. Apparently I'm "at it again" when I change my mind from believing the point I believe I was the first suggest, that Zeus just meant the good team to believing that he was hinting something.

So it seems he already had me as a target from then, so obviously even mentioning the word "Dionysus" makes me suspicious to him. And that's after criticising everyone for trying to find meaning in Boro writing "Zeus" twice. Total hypocrisy (though he does explain away any reason for Boro to say Zeus twice, he doesn't even consider an alternative for the Dionysus thing, that is, me being Dionysus because I just mentioned his name).

And so he's just gone after me after that no matter what.

There's also the Nerwen thing, and if I survive until toMorrow I'll get to that too.

edit: x-ed since my last post.

[Nerwen]

If you guys are gunning for Nienna, 'fraid I can't oblige. I haven't looked at her myself, and it's too much of a shot in the dark.

As I said, I'd be willing to vote tum or maybe Nog, but I don't think it's going to happen now. We've dithered too long.

I think we'd just better hope Steve is evil.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Are you saying that's good or bad?

More to the bad side, but mostly just the facts.

Would you consider not voting Eonwe if we should decide to go for Nienna?

[Macalaure]

I just got a big shock looking at the clock. I thought the deadline was still 2am, but the lack of incoming votes made me think it was earlier.

[autume98]

And since I've got the time and you're here Nerwen. I know you have some concerns regarding me. So ask away and I'll answer your questions.

[Rikae]

Well, I'd say that was a nice scene I just wrote, and...
people, people, people. Can't say I was wild over the original candidates, but this last minute scrambling isn't likely to do much good either... I mean, Nienna? Why her? You'd do as well to lynch me, and I already have a vote.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I just got a big shock looking at the clock. I thought the deadline was still 2am, but the lack of incoming votes made me think it was earlier.

Yeah, me too.

Okay, what's the case against Nienna? I'm not going to vote her if it's just random.

After all, we probably will have to go through this again toMorrow if Steve lives.

EDIT:X'd since Mac.