WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Day 1

6 - Comments on how many roles there are and how formulating plans will be difficult. Wants to watch SPM.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Want to know how tired I am? I was within an inch of posting a first post that was IN CHARACTER!! Thankfully I remembered just in time that characters were tied to roles, and that posting in character would be stupid for most and downright illegal for some.

There's really nothing suspicious about this, but it rubs me the wrong way for some reason. Willing to chalk it up to phantom being phantom, though.
8 - Banters with Lottie regarding lynching her. Normally not suspicious, but the wording gives me pause.

Originally Posted by the phantom

I had no plans for lynching you, but seeing as you are expecting it- well, I would hate to let you down. :p

The only reason to not have plans to lynch someone is because you're furry and they're furry. Or you know something the rest of us don't, which is highly unlikely this early in the game.
10 - More banter with Lottie. Nothing worrisome though.
12 - Goes to bed.
34 - Responds to Foley

Originally Posted by the phantom

Just great. What you're basically saying is that if I start acting silly you'll lynch me. Way to take my fun away! :(

This could very well just be my impression, but he has been acting less silly than usual...Maybe he actually took it to heart?
Also sarcastically agrees with Rikae about lynching the seer.
34 - phantom's ego responds to Inzil.
47 -

Originally Posted by the phantom

Oh, come now, this day isn't useless at all! I've already seen three players for certain (possibly more but I haven't had enough time to read carefully) who have done something to point towards a particular sort of role, and the only thing that remains to be seen is if they are serious in doing so or if they are merely hoping to cause the opposition to make an incorrect choice. The mind games have already started! :cool:

51 - Responds to Nerwen re: Zeus' allegiance. Says if Hera dies, Zeus sides with the village since he isn't furry. Also asks for clarification that that holds true for the other non-WW lovers.
54 - More Lover talk. Says surviving one can't win as lover, so can do whatever they please after partner dies (including off themselves). Insert Romeo and Juliet analogy here.
While not overly stoked on how much of Day 1 was spent talking about the lovers, there's no doubt that we have a tendency as a group to latch on to things like a dog (wolf?) with a bone for much longer than really necessary. As such, I don't particularly find the people who perpetuated the conversation suspicious, as there wasn't really anything else going on to distract from at the time.
57 - Defends Romeo and Juliet analogy as not meant to be true to the original tale and just for demonstration purposes.
As a fairly well educated young man (heh) I find it hard to believe that this was an innocent slip, but can't figure out what it would mean if it's not, especially since player gender aren't tied to their character genders.
71 - Responds to Nog's concerns about the lovers forming an alliance and thus voting block:

Originally Posted by the phantom

This is why early on I'd be more than willing to kill an "innocent" lover if I felt I had some idea who one was, as it would at the least remove the doomsday scenario of four wolves plus three lovers (plus possibly the cursed and the mytho!!) working in concert.

Nothing overly suspicious about wanting to prevent that particular scenario.
73 - Steve asks what we do if a Seer reveals. Pretty much says depends on what is said.
77 - Re: false Seer revealing. Nog suggests a reveal if the false Seer figures xerself out. Phantom disagrees as would narrow down who the wolves should kill. Reminds that Hera and Hephaestus (both wolves) can dream if lover is killed under right circumstances:

Originally Posted by the phantom

Plus, don't forget that the Wolves can dream too! Hera and Hephaestus both can dream if their lover is killed under the right circumstances, and what if they dream of the Seer, eh? If the false Seer has already revealed, they'll know that's the real one. But if the false Seer hasn't revealed, they may use their dream on him.

Yadda yadda good point yadda yadda.
81 - Clarifies that last post was in regards to false Seer knowing he was false.
86 - Responds to Rikae about Romeo and Juliet thing being moot since now have mod clarification. Also begins to get a little snarky:

Originally Posted by the phantom

Do you really think a village would be stupid enough to start at the beginning of the Seer trail and follow it to a lynch without first checking the end of the trail for signs that the Seer knew he was false?

Again- Nog and I were discussing a Seer who knew he was false. That fact completely negates (or should anyway) the idea of following their words to disaster.

91 - More snarking in Rikae's direction, but nothing much beyond babbling.
106 - Talks with Rikae about peer pressure, villager priorities ("to do what is possible to win"), more false Seer talk this time regarding hints and wolves following them
110 -

Originally Posted by Rikae

the wolves dream of the false seer's role as seer. Why would the wolves be any less able to see the hints, in that case, than the village?

Originally Posted by phantom

Under that circumstance the advantage to keeping quiet has already been won, due to the fact that the WWs were forced to waste a dream on the false Seer (who must have taken our advice and NOT revealed).

221 - returns.
240 - Responds to Rikae's questioning of his intentions in regards to Boro's opening post.
246 - Asks for updated tally and if BG's vote counted (no ++)
251 - Not keen on lynching BG, going to look at Steve, disagrees a lot with Nog.
258 - Thinks Steve is innocent.
261 - Warns everyone against last minute reveals in an attempt to save themselves. Points out that he is NOT suggesting reveal earlier, but instead defend yourself until you can't possibly afford to wait and see what's going to happen.
267 - Suggests to BG that if he was in her position to try to get people to vote for Nog for making arguments he doesn't agree with or Boro for not being around.
Obviously thinking about lynching what is now a known Seer, false or not, is suspicious. However, since phantom didn't look at Boro extensively, he might not have given that consideration.
271 - Asks what happens in case of a tie. Glirdy responds lsat person to receives votes will be lynched.
278 - Likes Nerwen. Takes pity on BG. Votes Steve.
In 258 he says he thinks Steve is innocent. Then he votes him for no apparent reason other than not wanting to jump on the BG wagon. Personally, I'd rather bandwagon than vote for someone I had said was probably innocent.
282 -

Originally Posted by the phantom

I feel really stupid for defending Eonwe and suspecting Nog for his suspicion of Eonwe, but then I VOTE for Eonwe. :rolleyes:

This is one of those days I'd like to forget.

Points out his own failings. phantom doesn't make mistakes. Who can PM during the Day?
290 - Responds to Nog about Steve.

Based on just Day 1, however, phantom's looking rather sketchy to me. My problem lies mostly with his vote for Steve and his comment following it (282). I still have an issue with him making more sense than usual and not making me have strong homicidal feelings in his general direction, but it has been a while since he played. I'd rather not vote him toDay without getting to go through his Day 2 posts, but if a better option doesn't present itself, I probably will.

Oh, and next time I decide to analyze someone who posts this much, someone please punch me in the mouth. Day 2 will come either later tonight or tomorrow, assuming I'm still alive.