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Old 08-09-2010, 06:15 AM   #1
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Okay, I've been thinking, and doing some reading of the past thread, since yesterDay. I know my very life is on the line, and with my life, the life of the rest of the Gods.

I read over Sally's posts, keeping in mind what I had said about her and then what Sally and Nerwen said in response to my accusation, and unfortunately, my theory didn't hold much water. I'm sorry, Sally, that I accused you. I just thought it was a possibility, seeing as you'd confused me so much this game. It was a shot in the dark.

Please don't hold this against me. The fact that you're not dead could mean something to you. If you think about it, were I Dyonisus and had I realized that I'd made such a blunder, I would have gotten rid of that mistake as fast as possible. Now it's quite an awkward and sticky situation for me. I'm disappointed Phantom was killed, if you'd really like to know. He was the only one who didn't flat out say I was Dyonisus yesterday. He might have been my only hope - and therefore the rest of your all's only hope.

I need to get ready for work. Be back later.

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Old 08-09-2010, 08:37 AM   #2
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Please don't hold this against me. The fact that you're not dead could mean something to you. If you think about it, were I Dyonisus and had I realized that I'd made such a blunder, I would have gotten rid of that mistake as fast as possible.
That– in this hypothetical situation you mention– would depend entirely on when you realised your blunder. Besides, I'm actually not clear how killing Sally would have fixed it.

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Now it's quite an awkward and sticky situation for me. I'm disappointed Phantom was killed, if you'd really like to know. He was the only one who didn't flat out say I was Dyonisus yesterday. He might have been my only hope - and therefore the rest of your all's only hope.
Excuse me? Nobody flat-out said you were Dionysus yesterDay. Nobody's said toDay, either.

I'll tell you what, though, that bit I just quoted does sound a lot like a panicking wolf-cub to me.
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Old 08-09-2010, 12:08 PM   #3
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My synopsis of Mera...

On day one, she was about as helpful or nonhelpful as everybody else. She left no hints as to her identity. She mentioned that for once she was actually agreeing with Phantom, and that was pretty amazing. She voted for Blind Guardian, and although that turned out badly, a lot of people voted for BG, so one can't really hold that against her, can they?

Day two: only hint she gave as to her identity was that she was NOT a Ranger:

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Well as far as not confusing me, he did an awful job. As for the "ere the night ends" bit, if I didn't know any better I'd suspect he thought I had a role that would be able to protect him. Unfortunately he overestimated me.
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Also, still not all that stoked on Boro indicating that I'm a ranger. If I was, I'd be quite annoyed for being pointed out (and thus probably dead toNight) but the fact that I have no idea where he got that from whatsoever really concerns me.
Now, the really strange behavior that pops out at a person on Day 2 is her behavior towards Phantom. On Day one she said:

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Agreed.

Wait. I just agreed with phantom. There is clearly something topsy turvy about the world today.
Then on Day 2, she builds upon that and says:

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The one solid(ish) thing that is sticking in my addled mind is that phantom is making a weird amount of sense. Usually he just confuses me and makes me want him dead. This could be considered a point of concern.
I don't see why Phantom making sense should be a point of concern. It was because he made such blatant sense that I trusted him the whole way through.

Then she says:

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Of course, now with a lack of easy bandwagons to jump on, I'm at a total loss of who to vote for toDay. There's a legitimate chance I won't be voting in order to avoid another weak vote out of sheer annoyance.
Apparently she liked an easy bandwagon to jump on, although she claimed in post 235 (Day 1 still) she claimed she didn't join the bandwagon on purpose. Anyway, here she says she probably won't vote so that she can avoid another weak vote out of sheer annoyance... She didn't vote on Day 2.

Her case against Phantom builds on Day 3.

She went and looked over Phantom on day 3. From her post concerning him, she really doesn't draw up much dirt, but she ends with:

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Based on just Day 1, however, phantom's looking rather sketchy to me. My problem lies mostly with his vote for Steve and his comment following it (282). I still have an issue with him making more sense than usual and not making me have strong homicidal feelings in his general direction, but it has been a while since he played. I'd rather not vote him toDay without getting to go through his Day 2 posts, but if a better option doesn't present itself, I probably will.
Her post about him, however, really doesn't show anything very sketchy at all - except, perhaps, his vote for Eonwe. But Eonwe did look bad. Worse than BG, who everyone lynched for no good reason. I don't like that half of what she has against him is that he's making more sense than usual and not making her have strong homicidal feelings in his general direction.

Anyway, after voting for him on Day 3, she seemed to have forgotten that approach. She did vote for him, by the way - after neglecting to look at his Day 2 posts. (Post 713)

Does this not sound strange to you? Phantom is making sense, so instead of going after someone who wasn't making sense, she tries to draw everyone's attention from a potential wolf to him. That does not seem like the actions of someone who was wanting to help the villiage. Why try to convince people to kill someone because they made more sense than usual? In my experience, if a player is helping the village by being serious and really trying to figure things out, that player is appreciated and kept around for a while - not torn at and voted for.

Now, concerning Eonwe. She says very little about him, except,

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It also leads me to not put too much stake in the theories that Steve is a wolf and phantom is Zeus.
That was after she said Boro was wrong about her being Ranger, Day 2. She doesn't bother to say anything about Eonwe maybe not being the cursed. Maybe it was because she knew she was the cursed, Eonwe wasn't, so it'd be better if everyone thought he was the cursed.

She hardly posted at all on Day 4 - just enough to vote for Rikae. No participation, no comment on previous day's occurrances, crazy and insane as they were. Yes, she was tired and had family drama, and all that...I know...

The next day (Day 5?) is really strange...she arrives late, says, "Dying isn't high on my priority list, what do I need to tell you to convince you I'm not a wolf?" (paraphrased from post 1141) Sally asks, "Who are you?" Her answer...

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Fabulous question. Guess who deleted the PM with her role? Oh, that's right, this kid. Ima try to get a hold of our fabulous mod and ask.


Okay. Anyway...so she covers up by saying,

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Oh I know who I am, I just don't remembering if revealing is kosher or is going to get me yelled at.
Of course it's not kosher. Glirdan explicitly said no revealing. What was she fumbling with? Good cover, though, it seemed to get Sally off the scent. But, maybe not. We were after known wolves by that point in time and the next two lynchees were Shasta and Lal. No time to suspect her further.

Sally suggested, that if she can't tell who she is, she could be helpful and put together a list of suspects. Mira says:

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Ah yes, my dear, I could. However, that would require me going back and reading a whole lot of stuff that is bound to confuse me and I'm not all that sure my poor head can take that at the moment.
Not much help there.

But she offers to look over the day's posting...and all she comes up with is the obvious:

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So I'm leaning toward Shasta. As much as I hate to admit it, phantom made a decent point regarding him. Also, I enjoy revenge votes.

There is a chance I could be persuaded otherwise, but sleepy!Mira would really like to be unconscious!Mira, so I'll probably vote early.
....is there is any doubt she'd NOT vote Shasta? It was really the only possible way for her to save her life. The vote was too close. It was either, vote Shasta, or vote elsewhere and die. What would any player choose? No help again.

And yesterday all she did was vote for Lal. Perfect.

Okay...there you have it. What has she done all game? Says she's not a ranger, tries to throw doubt on Phantom (because he makes extra sense), doesn't help or take part in any conversation about other suspects, now known to be guilty or otherwise, and forgets her role when questioned. Excellent, wot wot?

There is my case for you. Dyonisus - neither loyal to the wolves, until the end, nor to the village throughout the entire game.

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x-posted with Mira herself. Hello, dear.
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