Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Mnemosyne]

I think I left it open for Saeryn or Athanar to post next in the conversation there... I know Nog gave me permission to continue but I'm not quite sure how...

[Folwren]

Do you all think that it would be alright if, in the near future, we went ahead and moved on to later in the day? I'll write a post sometime about Thornden's search parties going into the marshes, and Dury and I will get a post up eventually with Feaghall and the boys and whatnot. I think we can wait a little while after that and see if anyone comes up with anything. But if no one does, I'm thinking we can move along to the end of the day.

Any thoughts?

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Ack. I got sick of school, so I decided to write a post, but then reading all the previous posts and figuring out what to write took too long, so I don't have any more time.

I hope that I get so much of my homework done today that I can post. Keep your fingers crossed, though, 'cause that may just not happen.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I REALLY want to write something on here, but I don't want to do it all by myself. If I post, will anyone else post? Chances are, I can work it so that at least one of my characters runs into your character. Please let me know.

-- Foley

[Mnemosyne]

I could probably manage a post for Wynflaed on or about Thursday (and if not then, by week's end). I've been anxious to keep this going, too.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hilderinc can make a company to somebody, if need be. I think it will be nice to get this going again

[Thinlómien]

I can manage something if you approach any of my characters.

[littlemanpoet]

Hello again. I'm back. Looks like you were having lots of fun with the conflict there for a while. Let's see if we can ramp it back up some.

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Hello again. I'm back. Looks like you were having lots of fun with the conflict there for a while. Let's see if we can ramp it back up some.

Wait, back as in back, or just popping your head in?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Wait, back as in back, or just popping your head in?

Indeed so! A surprise, nice to see you back around at the 'Downs again... But what would be your plans, do you want to stay?

[littlemanpoet]

When Samwise said, "Well, I'm back!", what did he mean?

In other words, the answer is 'yes'. Plans? It appears from my scanning of the thread since I went on my little adventure, is that there is a new eorl at Scarburg by the will of the king of the eorlingas. Eodwine will of course obey the king's will. He will also be willing to remain at Scarburg if the new eorl will have him.

Oh, and there's a certain reunion that Eodwine looks forward to in the form of a certain wife....

[Folwren]

Elempi, my heart (almost) truly stopped and then skipped a beat when I saw you had posted. A bright day just got brigther. Welcome back.

Post 596 on the game thread gives the clearest idea of Athanar's authority. It appears that, upon hearing of Eodwine's condition and the unlikely chance that he should ever recover, King Eomer gave Athanar possession of Scarburg. Do you think he'd change that if Eodwine were to return?

Eodwine's and Saeryn's reunion will be nice. Will he send word before him, or just come? Never mind. I just read your game post and see that he's sending a letter.

And now that Elempi's back, folks, what should we do about this extraordinarily long day? I am currently working on a searching party post and will have it posted within the hour.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Okay, I was wrong - Eodwine knew about the baby.

K, I knocked up a brief outline. Here we are...

August 9, Saery and Eodwine married.
October 9th, Eodwine falls ill.
October 10th, the three significant lords of the Middle Emnet come to Scarburg. They refuse to recognize Saeryn's and Thornden's authority and don't pay taxes, but offer to give a gift so they can survive the next month...how kind.
November 10, Degas comes back into town. (Post 506)
November 11, Lord Athanar and his entourage comes to Scarburg. (post 509)
And I believe we are now writing about November 12.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Posted. So in the end, I didn't make Hilderinc address Thornden directly, as it would not make any sense in these circumstances, but if Thornden was paying attention, he would be reminded once again now that Hilderinc saw him and Lithor in the morning and that Thornden, if nothing else, had not denied the fact that he has seen this particular person leaving... it could be a matter of time if Hilderinc remembers this, or perhaps Thornden might hope that he will forget it... nonetheless, probably just one more worry to add for Thornden

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Posted. So in the end, I didn't make Hilderinc address Thornden directly, as it would not make any sense in these circumstances, but if Thornden was paying attention, he would be reminded once again now that Hilderinc saw him and Lithor in the morning and that Thornden, if nothing else, had not denied the fact that he has seen this particular person leaving... it could be a matter of time if Hilderinc remembers this, or perhaps Thornden might hope that he will forget it... nonetheless, probably just one more worry to add for Thornden

I think you're right about Hilderinc probably not addressing Thornden. Little reason to.

And thanks. Thornden needed something extra to worry about.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Lord Eodwine is getting better!

Yay!

And welcome back lmp!


The obvious question now of course is how soon in real time would you like to get involved with the matters in Scarburg? Looking at the way we have advanced it would take like ten years (RL) to move us forwards for let's say a month or two it might take from lord Eodwine to both get better and to travel to Scarburg...

I think we could skip some time soonish, but what would be the believable time-frame Eodwine could be back? I mean we'd need to figure out how things went as there clearly is a confrontation ahead with the local landlords. And looking at lord Athanar's character, he would not stay low and wait but take the initiative.

I'm not sure right now if I have made lord Athanar to say this aloud in the thread (or only as PM's to some whose characters we have been discussing), but his idea was that he and the soldiers from Scarburg would visit the landlords one by one - and make sure no messengers could make it between the landlords to warn the others.

That confrontation would need to be written. After that, especially if it ends well on the POV of the Scarburgians we could easily turn the clock onwards. Although we'd have to think a moment, how the new order would have settled then in Scarburg after the more or less succesful submission of the landlords.

So lmp, if you're interested in coming forwards sooner than later, we should try to tie any loose ends there are right now, and then prepare something to carry us to the future.

I can write that confrontation stuff because I have already thought of a few things about it, and after all it's lord Athanar's thing to call and lead that tour. But I'm more than happy with any input from you others concerning it.

[littlemanpoet]

Is Harreld still the blacksmith? Anything known about all that? And what was the name of the young lady he liked?

If so, then I can write Harreld a wee bit while Eodwine waits in the wings. Don't rush into tying up loose strings on my account! I have plenty to do here and there in RL. And I can keep Eodwine's story line running at the Houses of Healing, too.

[Folwren]

Lommy, I posted. I was going to have Modtryth come out of the kitchen and spot them and then I realized that was your privilege, so I didn't.

I have no time to comment on Mnemosyne's and Nogrod's posts and give my own ideas and ask my questions...sorry. I'll try to get on tomorrow sometime, though.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

What is your general feeling, would you like to write on that everyone (who has soldier-characters) so that we would make it a kind of "stuff to write" or should we just skip it with one post by me?

Personally, I think it will be a pity if we just skipped it with one post. I mean, if LMP really does not mind (or can post for other characters meanwhile), I don't think we are in any "hurry hurry" rightaway. And since this meeting the landlords was sort of the "most epic" part, the sort of "epic plot" aside from general hanging around in the Hall (and one of the main reasons why Athanar and his people came, anyway), I think it won't do if we just passed it with "And the next day, they visited the lords, threatened them a bit and came back home". I am, of course, speaking especially for my character(s?) as this is finally the place where the soldiers are supposed to be.

Otherwise: there has not been still any official proclamation on Athanar's part concerning the fugitives; is he going to leave it be (since they haven't been caught) and keep it just for rumors among the folk? Not sure if this is Athanar's style and probably not any lord's style, anyway. So perhaps now that the parties return and report, Athanar might want to put some "official position" forwards? (This is probably to Foley and Dury, but depends if they want to write about Thornden and Coen reporting, or if Nog can make it with one post and write about how Athanar reacted.) This is probably also related to Wynflaed, like Mnemo said, and all these various points of view can meet...

Likewise, the "common folk" (including both peasants and soldiers) can still react to Erbrand and Lithor's disappearance and the fact that they haven't been found, and also to react if Athanar makes any official proclamation (that will sort of give the basic impulse from which it will be easy to write). Or even if he tries to hush it up for some reason...
I think the point is that here we have good chances to shape our characters, and there are still so many unsolved things, the old-new Scarburg thing a bit brought forth by this again, old friendships Erbrand had, etc, etc...

Anyway, this looks like it could be a lot of things, but I think it depends only on how fast we post, like, it can be done as fast as in one day RL, with let's say two posts from each person. (That's not supposed to be hurrying people up, that is more like encouraging in case it started to seem to somebody that we have million posts in front of ourselves and we cannot possibly ever finish doing that. There used to be times when we'd write such a thing in day or two just on a rather random basis, I think, without having too much illusions, that we could do it over a week...)

Or should we like write one of the meetings together and then let the others to go past by just one post? Maybe getting ready to go there, the first meeting... (This is the option I'd prefer) I mean if we start writing all those confrontations one by one it will take month(s), but I'd like to see you others writing something on that anyway. And we might have a chance to strengthen (or lessen) some dawning friendships there when they face some real trouble together?

I think one meeting is fine - unless somebody gets a brilliant idea about doing something different in different meetings. But basically, just like you say. Let us see once we are there...

[Folwren]

Hm. I just had an idea. Elempi, what would you think of taking the part(s) of one or two or all three of the landlords that they visit? Then you would be involved, plus we'd have another angle from which to view the story.

Otherwise: there has not been still any official proclamation on Athanar's part concerning the fugitives; is he going to leave it be (since they haven't been caught) and keep it just for rumors among the folk? Not sure if this is Athanar's style and probably not any lord's style, anyway. So perhaps now that the parties return and report, Athanar might want to put some "official position" forwards? (This is probably to Foley and Dury, but depends if they want to write about Thornden and Coen reporting, or if Nog can make it with one post and write about how Athanar reacted.) This is probably also related to Wynflaed, like Mnemo said, and all these various points of view can meet...

I, too, would like to see how this whole Erbrand and Lithor desertion thing works out. I put Thornden's neck out for him and would be rather disappointed if nothing came of it. (Am I not SO kind to my character?)

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I, too, would like to see how this whole Erbrand and Lithor desertion thing works out. I put Thornden's neck out for him and would be rather disappointed if nothing came of it. (Am I not SO kind to my character?)

Didn't we decide that Saeryn should tell Athanar that Thornden knew? (It's clearly been a while, but the more people talk about it the more comes back to me.)

I am utterly too busy today to make any sort of progress, but hopefully come Saturday, if there's something I can do to get things moving forward-ish, I'll be able to. Let me know if any of you have any ideas.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Didn't we decide that Saeryn should tell Athanar that Thornden knew? (It's clearly been a while, but the more people talk about it the more comes back to me.)

That would be brilliant, but no...Saeryn didn't know that Thornden knew. Let's see...the ones who have the potential of knowing are Hilderinc, Leof, and I think one other, but I don't recall...I'll have to look and see.

I am utterly too busy today to make any sort of progress, but hopefully come Saturday, if there's something I can do to get things moving forward-ish, I'll be able to. Let me know if any of you have any ideas.

I'll try to think of something and let you know if I do. I, too, am exremely busy today and tomorrow...and I may not even be able to post this weekend.

[Folwren]

I wrote a post, nudging us even closer to the end of the day. I suggest that if people want to continue some of the conversations or events that could have happened earlier in the day (i.e. conversation between Wynflaed, Saeryn, and Athanar, or the confrontation between Modtryth and the boys) then by all means do so. However, if no one does that in the next day or two, I humbly submit that Nogrod should post a post about Athanar speaking there at the evening meal about what happened during the day, the results of the searches and what that means for everybody, and what is going to happen next (that is, we're going to go and get the king's taxes out of the stubborn land owners).

I do hope everyone is cool with what I wrote.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Legate, I think it's pretty funny that you have Aflorgad (or however you spell his name) smitten with the healer. Very good way to slip Matrim in there. That was great.

Hey, while falling asleep last night, it occurred to me that what might potentially happen in this issue with Thornden is that Hilderinc could mention to Coenred that he saw a scout being sent out that morning. Coenred would of course say that there was no scout and Hilderinc would possibly tell him that Thornden knew about the man's departure, and this would probably awaken more misgivings in Coenred, who had some sneaking suspicion earlier that Thornden knew something he wasn't saying (you remember when Thornden and Coenred were talking to Athanar about where to send the search parties? I remembered it last night while trying to think of who all knows a little about Thornden's cover-up and it came back to me that he let something slip and Coenred suspects him of knowing something). It wouldn't take much for Coen to put two and two together, and then he could either confront Thornden on it, or go straight to Athanar. I personally hope he comes to Thornden first, but that would be Dury's call.

Does anyone know where Durelin might be, by the way? I don't think she's been on here for quite some time.

I have to go finish getting ready for work. See ya'll later.

P.S. Oh! And it just came to me - Mnemosyne, what Saeryn wanted to tell Athanar was that Lithor left with Erbrand, too, so they no longer have to wonder if he went somewhere else or what. She didn't know Thornden saw them go.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Foley, thanks The ideas sort of came to me randomly and during the course of writing the post, but it was sort of natural... it all originally came simply from that I wanted Áforglaed visit Scyrr, which seemed to imply that he would likely encounter the healer there, then it occured to me that Matrim could be near her... and only then I have realised that it was actually him who was in the original fight with Áforgaled the day before. The course of things which comes unplanned is sometimes even better than if it was planned

As for your idea about Hilderinc telling Coen, I think it's good. You just seem to come up with possibly more and more ways to put Thornden into more and more unpleasant position I can make Hilderinc mention it during the dinner, for example, or after it; I think it would be fitting, since the topic of the unsuccessful hunt for the fugitives will be sort of "on the table".

I am wondering about Dury too. Does anybody know about a way to contact her otherwise? I can, of course, just write a bit about Hilderinc without her and then we could wrap the matter up in some way by Coen addressing Thornden, but it would be probably far better if she can be here to actually decide for Coen herself.

[Folwren]

Nogrod, the line in your post about an 'inpassionate old man teaching an young man about passion' cracked me up because Thornden has never struck me as a very passionate young man...so it was just funny that Athanar would ask such a thing. Were Thornden as clueless about that sort of thing as some of the engineer students I know, that whole episode would have gone clear over his head.

[Nogrod]

Lord Athanar has spoken!

If you wonder about the congenial mood I have depicted let me tell you my train of thought...

After all the mixed emotions - and especially with the soldiers, a long day of utterly mix-feeling manhunting - getting food and an ale, and receiving these messages both sides want, combined with the arousal of a common "enemy" - any studies of mass-psychology would tell people would probably react that way. And I left there an opening for anyone disagreeing with the common feel-good -factor to write them doing so.

Also I think that as most people more or less believe lord Eodwine is dead (they don't know "the Creator of lord Eodwine" is back), they also think in the back of their heads that they'll have to get used to this state of affairs and thus this peace-making attitude would sound good in their ears.

Foley & Dury: if there is anything wrong with Thornden and/or Coen, let me know.

lmp: I need to postpone my PM to you for tomorrow, sorry, but it's absolutely too late now to start writing that (3.30am).

[Thinlómien]

Hiya folks!

Foley, Firefoot and Dury, I love you! Amazing posts.

I will post now something for Modtryth and if I get inspired, I will also write for Wulfric, Wilheard and/or Cnebba...

As for moving later to the day, I'm all for it. There's nothing urgent I need to interfere with...

[Thinlómien]

Posted. Durelin, feel free to have Fearghall approach Modtryth. Folwren, feel free to have the children do whatever they will. Actually, anybody feel free to approach my characters. Modtryth is on her way to the kitchens with Leodern, Wulfric and Wilheard can be anywhere (but separately) and will both be in a very bad mood. My suspicion is that Will would gladly go riding (or even hunting) after a day like this, and Wulfric, hmm, no idea. Use your creativity.