Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Nah, that's just what he did that game.

And he said then, he likes fair and even games, and will try to balance the teams.

On that note, I have to be awake in six hours, so I'd better slip into that state from which I can awaken. Good Day, all.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Mesa see this has already gotten pretty interesting even with just a few people.

Um... that wasn't me. Snaga speak better. But I would like to ask, how am I supposed to play since TP already used half of the good quotes before I even had the chance. But so, I can start already with looking at what's happening here...

I am not entirely sure about whether it is good to have such a rush in the beginning. I mean, we can now - and probably will, very likely - spend the rest of the Day discussing whether TP is good or bad or whatever, and whether to vote him for representative or not, while of course another wing of die-hard anti-supporters will emerge and wish to lynch him, or something like that. While having a topic to start with is better than bumping in the dark (sic), and I am sure it makes TP happy to have all the Day for himself, not sure if the way things have been focused on is the best to do it. But at the same time, it is at least a good topic for the start - and with such a topic, the way of people's behavior might nicely begin to show in people's reactions (and of course it will be most interesting to see this after tp is dead and we know his role, mwahaha *licks blade* ). But we have still a full Day in front of ourselves, and this is a big village, so I think there will be lots of time to speak of different things.

For start, what I think about the initial debate (and about phantom's proposal - but I will save the best for the latest, of course ). I have to agree with what's been said that tp acts according to his own ideas, and it might be that even as SoE he will be actually equally dangerous (because of this) to his pack. On the other hand, not sure if, with such an attitude, he can expect to last long.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Oh, and I also thought I'd mention that anyone that votes me for rep is completely safe for that day. No lie.

Okay, this is the one thing I really dislike - that's basically blackmail. It effectively means that "if you don't vote me, look, look, everyone else will do it, and then I will lynch you, because you will be the last remaining one". Speaking of that, I'd like to see what will you do with your promise if really everybody voted for you, phantom? Then people could only die at Night. Not that I think that you would think it will work - there will be always somebody who disagrees and will not vote you - but if it was like that, it would be the craziest way to make the Sons win. I must also say, there is one thing - if everybody unisono voted phantom, there will be lot less clues as well.

But now let me sum up what I think of phantom's proposal, personally. From the above already you can see, phantom, that I am not so keen on supporting you straightaway. While the idea might be good if you are good, sorry, I mean evil; I am not too keen on voting you, mostly just for the sake of that I think there will be more people - possibly like sally and Loslote - who either for lack of time, lack of Day 1 imagination or even for SoE-ish hiding in bandwaggon reasons (as already Nerwen well noted, and I think it is a good possibility) - will give their vote to you, and given how the system works in this game (if I understood it correctly), that will give tp-representative's vote tremendous power, even if there are a few other Representatives, each with his pitiful one vote or something like that (and I know, it is obvious that you will enjoy using the quote "Poweeeer! Un-limited poweeeer!" once you get there). Again, I think it is safer for the SoE if the votes do not split too much here - if it becomes all deed only of one Phantom, then even if he were innocent (read: innocent of murdering Orcs, not of all other things), we get no real clues from the lynch aside from "the phantom did it right/wrong". So because of this, I think I will rather go for somebody else, to offer a decent competition.

That's not to say I could not still vote you if you, say, keep only your two or three votes and nobody else votes you and you seem trustworthy. Apart from what I have said (which is an analysis), I have no reason to think your doings worth suspicion. In fact, I'd have found it most disturbing if you decided not to run for a representative - now that would be disturbing. I only find it unwise to vote you now. But we shall see. Still, we've had only a few people showing this far, so I am most interested to read from all the others, and see whom I deem worthy of my vote.

[Thinlómien]

Hearts
Legate
Nerwen (!!!)
Shasta

Does not heart
Sally
Lottie
phantom (jerk)

Really, the beginning(ish) of Day One and I already feel like jumping and screaming. Who the idiot came up with the idea for electing phantom as a representative? I really can't think of anything more stupid than carelessly giving your rep vote away in the beginning of the Day to vote some guy with terribly inflated ego just because he loves the attention. *glares at Sally and Lottie*

I think it would be a much better idea to make history in a different way - by lynching phantom on Day one. He claims, after all, that he's never been lynched.

/rant

*deep sigh*

Well, even if I try to think of this objectively, it doesn't look much better. I don't honestly understand why anyone - innocent or guilty - would throw away their rep vote so carelessly for somebody whose alignment they have no idea of (probably). The fact that there were two of them makes me quite worried. It doesn't help at all that Sally is claiming to amuse the mod and Lottie said she's voting early because she won't be around later but she still made several posts after her vote. It's just utter stupidity. The only scenario that makes sense is that one of them is a wolf with phantom and uses his phantomness and excuse to make an easy rep vote for a fellow and the other girl is just using the opportunity to mess around for fun.

As for phantom himself, I don't know what he's up to, and to be honest, I'm not very interested in spending all Day playing games with him to figure out if he's good or evil because he currently annoys me (although it's not his fault the two voted him for rep, of course).

Otherwise, there is not much to say yet. Should we discuss the rep rules? I think at least that it's ridiculous to make this into a disgusting politics game where you make parties like "you give me your vote, I won't lynch-vote you" - it's not silly but also dangerous: it becomes a war of clans where one's party matters more than their true alignment, which we definitely don't want in a werewolf game.

And I don't like the fact that we have 48 hours each Day. It tends to make people (myself included of course) lazy instead of enthusiastic to use the extra time for finding wolves.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

To be perfectly frank

Frank? Who's that?

Originally Posted by the phantom

Every last villager is going to vote me as representative today, as it would entertain the mods as well as be historic and funny. As a matter of fact, it wouldn't surprise me if I received all the rep votes every day of the contest. If the Sons win then all the orcs can say, "That blasted Phantom didn't vote well and lost it for us! Let's make fun of him!" And that would be great fun, of course. Or if the Sons lose then all the orcs can say, "Ha- I chose my rep well, didn't I?" And that would be fun as well.

Nar, too much power in the hands of one Orc isn't desirable. What's head-shaking is that you've already gotten two votes with your antics.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Who's this Emperor Palpatine he keeps talking about? Some filthy tark, I'll warrant!

I was wondering that myself! Seems to know more then he should.....

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Really, the beginning(ish) of Day One and I already feel like jumping and screaming. Who the idiot came up with the idea for electing phantom as a representative? I really can't think of anything more stupid than carelessly giving your rep vote away in the beginning of the Day to vote some guy with terribly inflated ego just because he loves the attention. *glares at Sally and Lottie*

Right. Isn't it better to hold off and see what everyone has to say before making such an important decision? And actually, we aren't bound to voting anyone for rep, I don't think, even though it's a power we should exercise. If one doesn't have time to wait and examine everyone before voting though, I think not voting is the better option, as long as one has a very good excuse for not doing so.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I think it would be a much better idea to make history in a different way - by lynching phantom on Day one. He claims, after all, that he's never been lynched.

There's an idea!

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

And I don't like the fact that we have 48 hours each Day. It tends to make people (myself included of course) lazy instead of enthusiastic to use the extra time for finding wolves.

Wolves? They're our friends!

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Now, this is what I don't understand, my lass: why do you think one of these filthy Elves or their sneaking friends wouldn't want to murder our Seer first chance they get, no matter how the rules work exactly? Because they'll give 'emselves away? Nah! There's four of 'em, remember?

Erm....I'd originally thought we had more gifteds than that, actually. Sorry. o_O

Still, since I won't be back much toDay, I figured I'd give my Day One vote to someone I trust to at least be interesting and whom I think will be good to keep around.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

For this, Nerwen is probably getting my vote. I'm just saying.

That and I love her to pieces, yes I do. <3

Edit: X'ed with Phantom.

Well there's half of the SoE right there. That's a clear hint. Clear.

Originally Posted by the phantom

I never should've gone to YouTube to get that link, as there is so much LotR stuff I haven't watched in forever. I ought to be asleep now. *sigh*

Have you heard the news?

Classic voice-over

Sped up version

Just for Sally

And this is why I love you, dear.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Really, the beginning(ish) of Day One and I already feel like jumping and screaming. Who the idiot came up with the idea for electing phantom as a representative? I really can't think of anything more stupid than carelessly giving your rep vote away in the beginning of the Day to vote some guy with terribly inflated ego just because he loves the attention. *glares at Sally and Lottie*

Well, thanks. At least now I know who NOT to vote for in the future.

Really, Lommie, is that attitude necessary? I mean....really?


I have to go, as I'll be late for work otherwise. Phantom, darling, do right by me, okay?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I am not evil! I am just a very serious case of negative social inheritance!

Anyways isn't this an awfully predictable start to our struggle? Already some orcs chose the path of placing a loud-mouth in the centre of attention. . . seriously, let him work a bit for the attention!

I'll return with as soon as I have mustered enough energy to read Legate's no doubt dreadful post.

[Glirdan]

As much as I would love to do some IC bantering, I will not...much too tired as I just got in from work...yay....

Originally Posted by Lommy

And I don't like the fact that we have 48 hours each Day. It tends to make people (myself included of course) lazy instead of enthusiastic to use the extra time for finding wolves.

I agree with this, yet at the same time, it gives people more of a chance to vote thus eliminating the "I didn't have time to vote" excuse. If this ever happens, then we at least have something to look at.

As for all of the phantom as rep business, I'm not sure what to make of it yet. All I know is my gut is telling me not to vote for him.

I don't know what to make of most things right now because I'm utterly exhausted and probably need some sleep...or at least coffee. I'll be around.