Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[the phantom]

-1-
The following people should be completely and totally off the lynching block today-

Greenie
Lommy
Phantom
Rune
Sally
Steve

Which leaves for lynching... everyone else.

-2-
Largely under my radar

Kath- You will be around more today?
Mira- You too?
Glirdan- You too?
Celuien- No feeling here, surprisingly.
Nog- I realize you had limited time, and your mix of defenses and finger-pointing looked standard.
Foley- Very single-minded yesterday. I can understand an Ordo with a death-grip on a theory, but I'd like to hear more about what other thoughts she has.
Wilwa- Considering the number of posts I have basically no thoughts here. I'm leaning careful Ordo right this second, but I'm not convinced.

-3-
I'd really like to have a bit of a chat with these folks.

Inzil- I absolutely hate your idea that people should not vote for a rep unless they mean it or whatever. I mean, who is always guaranteed to know what they're doing? The SoE. Therefore if anyone refrains from voting it'll probably be an Ordo, which means the vote is more likely to go the SoE way. And overall I thought you were too nice and happy in general. Afraid to make enemies or something. I'll be watching you.

Shasta- You were on both ladies all of yesterday, but you definitely seemed to favor fanning the flames towards Sally rather than Lottie. But then in 282 you said Lommy voted correctly, and she voted Lottie rather than Sally. It brings to mind the nasty idea that you wanted your attack to be proven wrong via a Sally lynch, thus saving Lottie, but then to make yourself look better at the end (when it seemed Izzy would choose Lottie) you gave the thumbs up on the Lottie choice. At least that's the suspicious story I came up with. What is your version? (SEE EDIT)

Legate- I'm really really back and forth on you. I found myself head-nodding with you much of the time, and your suspicions and defenses were well-balanced and such, but, BUT- there was one thing I didn't like about you, and that was the way you handled your rep vote. You really seemed to agonize over it in an odd way, as if you didn't want to make the choice or something. In 109 for instance it looks like you're setting up to later let your voting choice be made by others basically, and in 147/152 that is what in fact happens, yes? Basically in the end, your vote was the logical and only choice rather than your choice, and there's something dodgy about that. Am I off here?

Nerwen- I'm very undecided about you. On my little list of accusations and defenses, I have your line absolutely blank! Was I a screw-up during my readthrough, or were you especially skimpy with opinions yesterday? But at the same time, your post 273 made me wonder if you were maybe the only person on my wave-length as far as understanding precisely what I was up to yesterday (when you quoted my thoughts on Lommy's vote- you seemed to be wise to the fact that I was completely okay with lynching Lottie despite my seeming defenses of her, as evidenced by me not saving her).

(EDIT- I attributed the Lottie support post to you. Don't know how I mixed that up.)

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Inzil

Obvious question first: Why is phantom still alive?

Well, they obviously decided I was bluffing. The only question is, was I? We'll know eventually.

Originally Posted by Inzil

So Lommy, who gave three votes for Lottie, shouldn't be considered as a rep again? She looks pretty good to me.

She's the obvious one, yes. And when I came up with that idea Izzy was still alive (I had the thought early today).

And if you're inclined to extend innocence to Wilwa for her one vote on Lottie, you wouldn't want to vote her for rep either.

Also, don't make me a rep if you're inclined to extend innocence to me for not saving Lottie when I easily could have (by voting Sally or voting for Boro before Izzy cast her vote), or for not double-lynching an innocent Boro alongside her as I could have done.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Well, they obviously decided I was bluffing. The only question is, was I? We'll know eventually.

Well, a sane person wouldn't have done what you did if they were the actual Seer. However, I know you aren't quite sane. Still, it would seem a pretty big gamble for the elves to ignore you, when they could have just killed you anyway.

Originally Posted by the phantom

And if you're inclined to extend innocence to Wilwa for her one vote on Lottie, you wouldn't want to vote her for rep either.

She split her vote, so she doesn't look as good as Lommy. And like I said, I didn't much care for her last.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Also, don't make me a rep if you're inclined to extend innocence to me for not saving Lottie when I easily could have (by voting Sally or voting for Boro before Izzy cast her vote), or for not double-lynching an innocent Boro alongside her as I could have done.

Your vote (actually, the lack thereof) and your survival through the Night leave me disinclined to vote for you.

x/d with Nerwen

[Eönwë]

Finally managed to catch up properly.

Originally Posted by the phantom

And if you're inclined to extend innocence to Wilwa for her one vote on Lottie, you wouldn't want to vote her for rep either.

I personally think that makes her more suspicious, because if she was an elf she'd be voting for her packmate, which makes her look better, but because she only used one vote out of the two, she could've just been trying to look good while not decisively trying to lynch her, which would be a good cover for an Elf.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Phantom- Definitely could have saved Lottie by killing Sally, but didn't. Possibly could've saved Lottie by voting Boro before Izzy cast her vote (would she have wanted a double-lynch?). Definitely could've lynched an innocent Boro alongside Lottie, but didn't.

Looks like you're trying too hard.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

If you were the Seer double-bluffing, clearly I'd be doing the village a service by convincing the wolves it wasn't so. Also, if you were the Seer, why would you even suggest that you might be double-bluffing? You know, like you just did?

So that the wolves would think that.

[Eönwë]

Basically, I'm not sure what to think about the phantom-Nerwen argument, but there's something about it that makes me think that they're both on the same side. Either they're fighting Orcs, or both very cunning Elves trying to dominate the Day by confusing all of us. And since they're both very experienced and cunning players, I wouldn't put it past either of them.

Though, obviously, the most probable option is that they're both Orcs that just don't agree (as we know happens so often).