Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Think again. First vote was cast by Sally. Second vote by Lottie– who is indeed "gutsy" and also– perhaps even more importantly– inexperienced as a wolf. Look at how Lottie played yesterDay– she was quite unprepared for the amount of suspicion her vote attracted, You see, your argument is coming close to saying that Lottielf wouldn't do something we know she did. That is, whether or not she voted right after her fellow, she did vote in a way that drew attention to herself, and in fact ended by getting lynched.

Yet, there is a big difference from one SoE gambling on a day1, to two SoE doing it. I would never say that we wouldn't see a SoE acting very bold/inexperienced on day1, it has been seen many times before, but for them to openly team up in such a gamble is more unlikely.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Yet, there is a big difference from one SoE gambling on a day1, to two SoE doing it. I would never say that we wouldn't see a SoE acting very bold/inexperienced on day1, it has been seen many times before, but for them to openly team up in such a gamble is more unlikely.

Read my post again, Rune. The point is, Lottie's decision to vote phantom when she did might well have been something she decided for herself; therefore it doesn't tell us much about Sally.

[the phantom]

*stumbles in yawning*

Originally Posted by Green

What made you change your mind? (regarding Wilwa)

A combination of the lynch yesterday and her explanation today. Also, as I may have mentioned earlier, I'm keen to give a one day pass to anyone who had some sort of hand in lynching Lottie, so for the purposes of today's exercises I may as well think of them as innocent and see where that gets me.

Originally Posted by Green

Speaking of that - I'm sorry if you've already explained this and I have missed it, but why didn't you vote yesterDay?

Because I thought it prudent to leave the lynch the way it was. And looking at the result, I'd have to say that I did indeed make the smart decision.

Originally Posted by Legate

Although, on the other hand, I'd like to look at the timing of his Seer reveal - because now it had occured to me that if he was a Wolf, acting boldly, and then suddenly one of his teammates was about to be lynched, his boldness suddenly meant another possible threat to the WWs' team, so maybe he could try even more ridiculous move to save his skin by revealing as a Seer? If you know what I mean. But I think that would make more sense only if he revealed after it was clear that Lottie goes.

Concerning my timing, I revealed in the very last post of the entire day after all votes had been cast, therefore there was no chance at all that I was trying to impact the voting. I was watching my clock very carefully and I posted when I believed it to be under 15 seconds until the deadline.

Originally Posted by Rune

Personally I am of the opinion that if a seer was to reveal his or hers true identity on the basis on a bluff like yesterday, then they deserve to get lynched for being bloody stupid.

Thanks lad. Exactly what I think. Oh, and sorry for making you want to crush your skull with a hammer.

Regarding Sally's guilt/innocence, I'm not convinced one way or the other, but as a logical starting point for today I would like to assume her innocence and see what conclusions that yields. If we hit dead ends, then we can revisit her.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

But in answer to your intimation that I would rather Sally have been lynched yesterday than Lottie - Yes, I would have. But Lottie being evil doesn't exonerate Sally in the slightest - in fact I'm more suspicious of her now than I was - so I don't see why you brought it up.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

I'm not sure about this. It would have been really bold from Lottielf to follow Sallyelf's rep vote so openly. Then again, I'm not sure of whether I've ever played with an evil Lottie before, so I don't know whether she would pull a stunt like that.

I've been leaning toward Lottie's Elvishness being a point in favor of Sally, since voting for the same rep so close together seems so reckless. It's possible they were mates, but it seems like a bold move, especially for a Day 1. I think it's nearly certain though that if Sally is another Elf, phantom isn't.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Speaking of that - I'm sorry if you've already explained this and I have missed it, but why didn't you vote yesterDay? As far as I've seen you have just given a lot of reasons why you would have voted had you been an elf.

I don't remember seeing his explanation for that, either. Could be another convoluted scheme of an orcish tp, or a move by an phantelf to avoid commitment.

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Right, defensive = evil, sorry, I forgot that as an innocent I should have no desire to remain alive.

That looks rather odd as well. There's certainly nothing wrong with defending oneself, but your response looked out of proportion to the situation.

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Also I should probably mention that even though I would love to receive a mandate from the masses, today is not a good day for me to be a representative. . . Unless you want a representative who show up drunk and makes a more or less random vote.

Looks to me like you'd merely be on-par with the majority of world politicians.

x/d with Sally x 2