Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Nerwen]

So, I was going to do an analysis of Greenie, but I realise I can't add anything to Legate's or Lommy's. The nature of this game is such that the wolves are less likely to leave trails to each other, since only a few people can lynch–vote each Day. There's rep-voting, but that cuts both ways– the two known wolves each voted an innocent for rep on Day One, after all.

If we pick one person to lynch toDay, I rather fancy Steve. That said, there's cases to be made for and against everyone. And we have no Seer now. I'm just saying, we could always lynch the lot of them.

[Nerwen]

Besides, it would be historic.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Interesting point. I argued earlier that Rune was the more likely Elf of the two, because his vote was forced, but I suppose you could say Zil's was too, in a way– that is, I (along with Foley) was putting pressure on Rune to vote Greenie, and making it clear I was likely to vote her myself. And he couldn't very well have voted me.

He could have just held his vote though, and hoped for a tie.

Thing is, it all happened very fast at the end there, and I think everyone's votes crossed. So it's hard to tell what was going through people's heads– whether for instance it would have been clear in time that Greenie was going down.

I had no idea who was getting lynched when I voted for Greenie, but I was pretty convinced that Nerwen and Zil would vote for either me or Greenie. So my only two choices it seemed was to vote Greenie or Nerwen.

Just when Greenie cast her vote I considered voting for Nerwen, but didn't because 1) I didn't have the guts*. 2) It would be highly unproductive to settle a lynch so early before the discussion had gotten proper started.

Anyways I am afraid that I won't be around to defend my self today as I have to tend a family celebration.

*Guts = I was not sure about Nerwen (This being the most important of the reasons), I was afraid of being let by a SoE like a mindless sheep and I was afraid of the implications if I once again jumped on to the idea presented by somebody else aka afraid the vote would look bad.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

If we pick one person to lynch toDay, I rather fancy Steve.

Do you have any reason for that?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Do you have any reason for that?

Well, there's the Greenie-issue– why did she go for me instead of you?

And toDay you're overly doubtful of Mira's innocent-list. And when discussing whether phantom might be the OoUA, you are at pains to point out that the OoUA's identity can't be proven, which makes me wonder if you were considering a false reveal. And this:

Originally Posted by Steve

Do you really want to end the game now, and without even 100% evidence? You seem a bit too certain that Phantom, Nerwen and Shasta are innocents, and even if they're much closer to 'proven' innocents than everyone else, they're not. And anyway, where's the fun that?

[Nerwen]

Are reps allowed to withhold some of their votes? Even if they're not, we can lynch six people at one vote each, and then if the game continues we'll know the survivor's a wolf. And there'll still be two innocents alive toMorrow.

Or is this too unsporting? (Because, as we all know, Orcs are so deeply concerned with honour and fair play. Oh wait...)

Thoughts?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

If we pick one person to lynch toDay, I rather fancy Steve. That said, there's cases to be made for and against everyone. And we have no Seer now. I'm just saying, we could always lynch the lot of them.

If you all decide on one, I'd say Rune over Steve.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Are reps allowed to withhold some of their votes? Even if they're not, we can lynch six people at one vote each, and then if the game continues we'll know the survivor's a wolf. And there'll still be two innocents alive toMorrow.

Or is this too unsporting? (Because, as we all know, Orcs are so deeply concerned with honour and fair play. Oh wait...)

Thoughts?

I don't know about the "unsporting" aspect. "All's fair," etc., maybe. That's up to you reps. It could certainly bring a quick end to things.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, there's the Greenie-issue– why did she go for me instead of you?

Well, you were her top "suspect" after Sally the previous Day.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

And toDay you're overly doubtful of Mira's innocent-list.

All I said was that it's not 100% certain, and so maybe not worth the entire game. And this was before you'd revealed to back it up.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

And when discussing whether phantom might be the OoUA, you are at pains to point out that the OoUA's identity can't be proven, which makes me wonder if you were considering a false reveal.

Well, it can't be, can it?

And for that matter, how do we know that you're really the OoUA? You just basically used the names from that list and added Foley. Anyone could do that. Or alternatively, you could be the OoUA who turned to the elves and is faking an innocent choice. All I'm saying is that certainty is a luxury we can't afford in this game.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Are reps allowed to withhold some of their votes? Even if they're not, we can lynch six people at one vote each, and then if the game continues we'll know the survivor's a wolf. And there'll still be two innocents alive toMorrow.

Also, are reps still in effect when there are 3 people left? Because then, if the scenario you suggest were to happen, the elves would win.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Admin thread

The orc of unknown allegiance appears as as such to the seer, should xe be dreamt of. If the seer dreams of xim before xe chooses sides, the seer will be updated as to xer side once xe has chosen.

According to this, there's no way Nerwen, Shasta, or I is an evil special!orc, right? Because Mira would've seen us as such and also been notified that we had chosen to be evil, correct?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

According to this, there's no way Nerwen, Shasta, or I is an evil special!orc, right? Because Mira would've seen us as such and also been notified that we had chosen to be evil, correct?

Correct.

And Steve, as for this theory of yours that I might be an imposter– who do you suppose it is, then?

[the phantom]

Steve- if you truly fear Nerwen is bad, we can have her split her votes first.

Which three are you looking to vote for, Nerwen?

[Eönwë]

Just realised that I missed out this.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

And this:

I play to win, yes, but I also play to play. Otherwise there's no point.

So basically, yeah, even if we can't do the plan, I think we should have a multiple lynch. If you're going to kill me, at least try to help the village by killing someone else who might actually be a wolf.


And why have I just become an official person to lynch with no actual good reason?

[Eönwë]

So am I the only person around now? Ok, goodnight then, and choose who you lynch wisely.