Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Folwren]

Lommy, I posted. I was going to have Modtryth come out of the kitchen and spot them and then I realized that was your privilege, so I didn't.

I have no time to comment on Mnemosyne's and Nogrod's posts and give my own ideas and ask my questions...sorry. I'll try to get on tomorrow sometime, though.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

What is your general feeling, would you like to write on that everyone (who has soldier-characters) so that we would make it a kind of "stuff to write" or should we just skip it with one post by me?

Personally, I think it will be a pity if we just skipped it with one post. I mean, if LMP really does not mind (or can post for other characters meanwhile), I don't think we are in any "hurry hurry" rightaway. And since this meeting the landlords was sort of the "most epic" part, the sort of "epic plot" aside from general hanging around in the Hall (and one of the main reasons why Athanar and his people came, anyway), I think it won't do if we just passed it with "And the next day, they visited the lords, threatened them a bit and came back home". I am, of course, speaking especially for my character(s?) as this is finally the place where the soldiers are supposed to be.

Otherwise: there has not been still any official proclamation on Athanar's part concerning the fugitives; is he going to leave it be (since they haven't been caught) and keep it just for rumors among the folk? Not sure if this is Athanar's style and probably not any lord's style, anyway. So perhaps now that the parties return and report, Athanar might want to put some "official position" forwards? (This is probably to Foley and Dury, but depends if they want to write about Thornden and Coen reporting, or if Nog can make it with one post and write about how Athanar reacted.) This is probably also related to Wynflaed, like Mnemo said, and all these various points of view can meet...

Likewise, the "common folk" (including both peasants and soldiers) can still react to Erbrand and Lithor's disappearance and the fact that they haven't been found, and also to react if Athanar makes any official proclamation (that will sort of give the basic impulse from which it will be easy to write). Or even if he tries to hush it up for some reason...
I think the point is that here we have good chances to shape our characters, and there are still so many unsolved things, the old-new Scarburg thing a bit brought forth by this again, old friendships Erbrand had, etc, etc...

Anyway, this looks like it could be a lot of things, but I think it depends only on how fast we post, like, it can be done as fast as in one day RL, with let's say two posts from each person. (That's not supposed to be hurrying people up, that is more like encouraging in case it started to seem to somebody that we have million posts in front of ourselves and we cannot possibly ever finish doing that. There used to be times when we'd write such a thing in day or two just on a rather random basis, I think, without having too much illusions, that we could do it over a week...)

Or should we like write one of the meetings together and then let the others to go past by just one post? Maybe getting ready to go there, the first meeting... (This is the option I'd prefer) I mean if we start writing all those confrontations one by one it will take month(s), but I'd like to see you others writing something on that anyway. And we might have a chance to strengthen (or lessen) some dawning friendships there when they face some real trouble together?

I think one meeting is fine - unless somebody gets a brilliant idea about doing something different in different meetings. But basically, just like you say. Let us see once we are there...

[Folwren]

Hm. I just had an idea. Elempi, what would you think of taking the part(s) of one or two or all three of the landlords that they visit? Then you would be involved, plus we'd have another angle from which to view the story.

Otherwise: there has not been still any official proclamation on Athanar's part concerning the fugitives; is he going to leave it be (since they haven't been caught) and keep it just for rumors among the folk? Not sure if this is Athanar's style and probably not any lord's style, anyway. So perhaps now that the parties return and report, Athanar might want to put some "official position" forwards? (This is probably to Foley and Dury, but depends if they want to write about Thornden and Coen reporting, or if Nog can make it with one post and write about how Athanar reacted.) This is probably also related to Wynflaed, like Mnemo said, and all these various points of view can meet...

I, too, would like to see how this whole Erbrand and Lithor desertion thing works out. I put Thornden's neck out for him and would be rather disappointed if nothing came of it. (Am I not SO kind to my character?)

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I, too, would like to see how this whole Erbrand and Lithor desertion thing works out. I put Thornden's neck out for him and would be rather disappointed if nothing came of it. (Am I not SO kind to my character?)

Didn't we decide that Saeryn should tell Athanar that Thornden knew? (It's clearly been a while, but the more people talk about it the more comes back to me.)

I am utterly too busy today to make any sort of progress, but hopefully come Saturday, if there's something I can do to get things moving forward-ish, I'll be able to. Let me know if any of you have any ideas.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Didn't we decide that Saeryn should tell Athanar that Thornden knew? (It's clearly been a while, but the more people talk about it the more comes back to me.)

That would be brilliant, but no...Saeryn didn't know that Thornden knew. Let's see...the ones who have the potential of knowing are Hilderinc, Leof, and I think one other, but I don't recall...I'll have to look and see.

I am utterly too busy today to make any sort of progress, but hopefully come Saturday, if there's something I can do to get things moving forward-ish, I'll be able to. Let me know if any of you have any ideas.

I'll try to think of something and let you know if I do. I, too, am exremely busy today and tomorrow...and I may not even be able to post this weekend.

[Nogrod]

I think lord Athanar would wish not to pursue the fugitives any more himself right now as he needs all the men available for the visits to the landlords, but he'd probably send one man to Edoras to announce the outlaws to the king. And he'd have to leave a few men to guard the Mead Hall just in case the two were murderous and still around. (Remember, he doesn't know them!)

We'll have to check this "Saeryn knew" stuff. If it is that way, then it should be that way.


Heh, a good idea Foley! So if you lmp wish to play for the landlords (one or some of them), it would be great fun!

In that case, we should probably PM something about them as to how we see their situation in respect of the new Mead Hall - and what kind of people they are - so that we work on the same premises. And which one of them would you like to play... so as to decide which encounter we'd be writing all of us?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Heh, a good idea Foley! So if you lmp wish to play for the landlords (one or some of them), it would be great fun!

In that case, we should probably PM something about them as to how we see their situation in respect of the new Mead Hall - and what kind of people they are - so that we work on the same premises. And which one of them would you like to play... so as to decide which encounter we'd be writing all of us?

I'm willing. The PM idea is good. I don't have oodles of time to really concentrate on the last 6 or so pages of this thread, so any summaries you can offer in that regard would be most helpful.

Allow me to share my opinion in regard to rushing some parts of the story: if there's a writer on this rpg who really wants to write something for a given scenario, and can get some time in to do it, let him/her have a go. The rest of us I would think would be willing to give the writer a couple days.

[Folwren]

I wrote a post, nudging us even closer to the end of the day. I suggest that if people want to continue some of the conversations or events that could have happened earlier in the day (i.e. conversation between Wynflaed, Saeryn, and Athanar, or the confrontation between Modtryth and the boys) then by all means do so. However, if no one does that in the next day or two, I humbly submit that Nogrod should post a post about Athanar speaking there at the evening meal about what happened during the day, the results of the searches and what that means for everybody, and what is going to happen next (that is, we're going to go and get the king's taxes out of the stubborn land owners).

I do hope everyone is cool with what I wrote.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Legate, I think it's pretty funny that you have Aflorgad (or however you spell his name) smitten with the healer. Very good way to slip Matrim in there. That was great.

Hey, while falling asleep last night, it occurred to me that what might potentially happen in this issue with Thornden is that Hilderinc could mention to Coenred that he saw a scout being sent out that morning. Coenred would of course say that there was no scout and Hilderinc would possibly tell him that Thornden knew about the man's departure, and this would probably awaken more misgivings in Coenred, who had some sneaking suspicion earlier that Thornden knew something he wasn't saying (you remember when Thornden and Coenred were talking to Athanar about where to send the search parties? I remembered it last night while trying to think of who all knows a little about Thornden's cover-up and it came back to me that he let something slip and Coenred suspects him of knowing something). It wouldn't take much for Coen to put two and two together, and then he could either confront Thornden on it, or go straight to Athanar. I personally hope he comes to Thornden first, but that would be Dury's call.

Does anyone know where Durelin might be, by the way? I don't think she's been on here for quite some time.

I have to go finish getting ready for work. See ya'll later.

P.S. Oh! And it just came to me - Mnemosyne, what Saeryn wanted to tell Athanar was that Lithor left with Erbrand, too, so they no longer have to wonder if he went somewhere else or what. She didn't know Thornden saw them go.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Foley, thanks The ideas sort of came to me randomly and during the course of writing the post, but it was sort of natural... it all originally came simply from that I wanted Áforglaed visit Scyrr, which seemed to imply that he would likely encounter the healer there, then it occured to me that Matrim could be near her... and only then I have realised that it was actually him who was in the original fight with Áforgaled the day before. The course of things which comes unplanned is sometimes even better than if it was planned

As for your idea about Hilderinc telling Coen, I think it's good. You just seem to come up with possibly more and more ways to put Thornden into more and more unpleasant position I can make Hilderinc mention it during the dinner, for example, or after it; I think it would be fitting, since the topic of the unsuccessful hunt for the fugitives will be sort of "on the table".

I am wondering about Dury too. Does anybody know about a way to contact her otherwise? I can, of course, just write a bit about Hilderinc without her and then we could wrap the matter up in some way by Coen addressing Thornden, but it would be probably far better if she can be here to actually decide for Coen herself.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

As for your idea about Hilderinc telling Coen, I think it's good. You just seem to come up with possibly more and more ways to put Thornden into more and more unpleasant position I can make Hilderinc mention it during the dinner, for example, or after it; I think it would be fitting, since the topic of the unsuccessful hunt for the fugitives will be sort of "on the table".

Yeah, I'm good at getting myself and my characters into scrapes. I enjoy immense amount of conflict in my stories.

I am wondering about Dury too. Does anybody know about a way to contact her otherwise? I can, of course, just write a bit about Hilderinc without her and then we could wrap the matter up in some way by Coen addressing Thornden, but it would be probably far better if she can be here to actually decide for Coen herself.

I sent her a message on facebook, hopefully she'll get that.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Foley: I'm in the middle of some chaos right now, but made a short post to get things moving. If you can make a reply to my last, then great. I'll post for lord Athanar speaking to the Mead Hall about the day and tomorrow (in game), hopefully tomorrow (RL).

Let's hope Dury is found as well...

[Folwren]

Nogrod, the line in your post about an 'inpassionate old man teaching an young man about passion' cracked me up because Thornden has never struck me as a very passionate young man...so it was just funny that Athanar would ask such a thing. Were Thornden as clueless about that sort of thing as some of the engineer students I know, that whole episode would have gone clear over his head.

[Nogrod]

Lord Athanar has spoken!

If you wonder about the congenial mood I have depicted let me tell you my train of thought...

After all the mixed emotions - and especially with the soldiers, a long day of utterly mix-feeling manhunting - getting food and an ale, and receiving these messages both sides want, combined with the arousal of a common "enemy" - any studies of mass-psychology would tell people would probably react that way. And I left there an opening for anyone disagreeing with the common feel-good -factor to write them doing so.

Also I think that as most people more or less believe lord Eodwine is dead (they don't know "the Creator of lord Eodwine" is back), they also think in the back of their heads that they'll have to get used to this state of affairs and thus this peace-making attitude would sound good in their ears.

Foley & Dury: if there is anything wrong with Thornden and/or Coen, let me know.

lmp: I need to postpone my PM to you for tomorrow, sorry, but it's absolutely too late now to start writing that (3.30am).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Looks great, Nog! I absolutely agree with what you wrote. I will probably write something regarding closer reactions of the soldiers soon, too...